Almost no chance WVU would hire Doc, I think Stewart was the last over 50 coach they hire at WVU. Their next coach will almost certainly be closer to 40 than 50 only likely exception would be Rich Rod. Doc's $3MM buyout is small relative to buying out Rich Rod's AZ contract so that would not be the reason he isn't offered the job.

Doc would absolutely take the WVU it pays $3million/yr. he has stronger ties to WVU than Marshall, finally he would have a shot at a national championship there, that will never be possible at Marshall.

(12-08-2015 04:53 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:05 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:44 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:21 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Doubt it, but stranger things have happened. If offered, we will find out if he has really meant what he said or if he's full of poo... (You know, "I love Huntington, the fans, the school..etc). It's hard to turn down the big-time for a coach...

Personally, I think he stays here. His parents live roughly within 20 minutes of Huntington. Morganhole is almost three hours to the north and that area sucks a royal wombat's a-hole. Doc is no spring chicken, but then again, neither was Stewart (sp). And I also think that Doc is not finished with his project at Marshall.

A chance to go coach your alma-mater in the Big 12 versus staying in bumfug Huntington, WV. He has taken you all as far as he can and will not stick around if given the chance to make the jump.

Bumfug Huntington? Huntington is a freakin metropolis compared to Morgantown.. Or ****** ass Boone, NC for that matter.. The alma-mater and his the conference are the drawing points.. Not the location of Marshall compared to the school in question

Grew up near Boone, been to Huntington and Morgantown. On a rating of safety

1. Boone 2. Morgantown 3. Huntington.

Niceness

1. Boone 2. Morgantown 3. Huntington

Places i'd like to live...

1. None of the above

If I were a coach.

1. Boone/Huntington (depends on the situation) 3. Huntington

Sorry dude.

Don't apologize to me.. I feel sorry for you that you prefer those places to Huntington.. Huntington isn't the nicest place in the world but it has far more to offer than either one of those hell holes.. If you prefer them that tells me all I need to know about you.

I've never been to Boone but NC as a general > WVa. It's not far from Charlotte either. I've lived in Huntington for 19 years. As soon as I'm done with Marshall I'm going down to NC. Maybe even Boone. It's probably better then Huntington & Morgantown.

NC Herd, only one error in your post. He has the same shot at a NC in Huntington as he does in Morgantown. Both are 0%. He has a much cleaner path to a NY6 bowl in Huntington.

(12-08-2015 04:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:19 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I'm not expecting a CFP bid... But I think the AB not out of the realm of possibility, and close doesn't cut it.

At WVU, a coach of Doc's caliber would have a chance at the National Championship though. If he is offered the job I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't take it.

What a freaking moron. But take note of who he roots for. Here are the simple facts for a simpleton even like you:

The Who has never won a national championship outside of Rife, which is a "Club Sport", and they never will. Their best shot to do so was in the 12 year run of the BCS. This so called playoff system was set up for 8-12 schools and most years 3 of those 12 getting in with maybe a wild card. This years wild card is Clemson, last years was Oregon.

The 2 times they made the title game they were run out of the stadium: 1988: Fiesta Bowl- Notre Dame 34 WVU 21, The score indicates a closer game than it actually was. It was 26-6 with 4 mins to go in the 3rd. 1993: Sugar Bowl- Florida 41 WVU 7. WVU scored 1st 3 mins into the game but you couldn't find a WVU fan at halftime. Total hardcore WVU fans still claim they are undefeated in 1988, since the Fiesta Bowl was on Jan 2nd 1989.

I like Doc and what he has done at Marshall, but no one is ever going to win a title in Morgantown. And as long as Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Baylor is in the B12 then WVU is always going to fight Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU and Texas Tech for 5th place most years. No matter who is there most years WVU will always have 3-5 losses in the B12.

(12-08-2015 09:34 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:19 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I'm not expecting a CFP bid... But I think the AB not out of the realm of possibility, and close doesn't cut it.

At WVU, a coach of Doc's caliber would have a chance at the National Championship though. If he is offered the job I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't take it.

What a freaking moron. But take note of who he roots for. Here are the simple facts for a simpleton even like you:

The Who has never won a national championship outside of Rife, which is a "Club Sport", and they never will. Their best shot to do so was in the 12 year run of the BCS. This so called playoff system was set up for 8-12 schools and most years 3 of those 12 getting in with maybe a wild card. This years wild card is Clemson, last years was Oregon.

The 2 times they made the title game they were run out of the stadium: 1988: Fiesta Bowl- Notre Dame 34 WVU 21, The score indicates a closer game than it actually was. It was 26-6 with 4 mins to go in the 3rd. 1993: Sugar Bowl- Florida 41 WVU 7. WVU scored 1st 3 mins into the game but you couldn't find a WVU fan at halftime. Total hardcore WVU fans still claim they are undefeated in 1988, since the Fiesta Bowl was on Jan 2nd 1989.

I like Doc and what he has done at Marshall, but no one is ever going to win a title in Morgantown. And as long as Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Baylor is in the B12 then WVU is always going to fight Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU and Texas Tech for 5th place most years. No matter who is there most years WVU will always have 3-5 losses in the B12.

I don't follow this logic if Doc's a good coach and master recruiter, AND takes the WVU job if offered, he should be able to go undefeated in the B12, and at a minimum make the 4 team playoff. If he can't do that for WVU, how can we ever expect him to lead Marshall to an undefeated season that includes a couple of P5 wins so we can get a NY6 bowl? Put another way if Marshall fans believe/expect Doc to lead Marshall to a NY6 bowl and win it, why is it unreasonable to think he couldn't lead WVU to playoffs?

WVU is just not in a position to be very successful. Bad location for recruits+on an island conference wise+not much name brand= MEDIOCRITY

If WVU would've taken a chance on Doc I'm a firm believer they'd have a title by now.

Last year is a perfect example of why we are better positioned for a NY6 bowl than wvu is for a spot in the playoffs. We played a horrible schedule and still were a successful 2 pt conversion away from putting the committee in a very tough spot. We can go undefeated, or be a one loss team playing in CUSA even with a mediocre P5 or 2 on the schedule. Most years that will put us in contention for a NY6 bowl.

wvu on the other hand has to also go undefeated or be a one loss team to get a playoff spot and a shot to win the national championship. So to do that they have to beat Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas (which will be back), TCU, Baylor, Kansas State plus at least one P5 OOC opponent. Then they have to go beat somebody like Ohio State and Alabama back to back.

Simply put, that is never going to happen. They do not have the recruiting area. They do not have the resources. They are not a national brand "elite" that can pull players capable of accomplishing such a feat. The only thing that could ever give them even a slight chance would be to hire a coach with such a name that he, not the school, could attract nationwide recruits and he would be great enough to get them there despite the absolute worse travel schedule in the P5 world. There's about 5 of those coaches on the planet and Doc isn't one of them.

(12-08-2015 04:56 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:19 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I'm not expecting a CFP bid... But I think the AB not out of the realm of possibility, and close doesn't cut it.

At WVU, a coach of Doc's caliber would have a chance at the National Championship though. If he is offered the job I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't take it.

I like Doc and he's done well here.. I'm still not sold on his coaching ability though.. Lets see how he does next year when the schedule is much more difficult than it has been over the past 3 seasons

Dude, you realize he has beat Purdue, Maryland, Louisville, botched kicks at VT from a win, etc, right?

(12-08-2015 04:53 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:05 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:44 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:21 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  Doubt it, but stranger things have happened. If offered, we will find out if he has really meant what he said or if he's full of poo... (You know, "I love Huntington, the fans, the school..etc). It's hard to turn down the big-time for a coach...

Personally, I think he stays here. His parents live roughly within 20 minutes of Huntington. Morganhole is almost three hours to the north and that area sucks a royal wombat's a-hole. Doc is no spring chicken, but then again, neither was Stewart (sp). And I also think that Doc is not finished with his project at Marshall.

A chance to go coach your alma-mater in the Big 12 versus staying in bumfug Huntington, WV. He has taken you all as far as he can and will not stick around if given the chance to make the jump.

Bumfug Huntington? Huntington is a freakin metropolis compared to Morgantown.. Or ****** ass Boone, NC for that matter.. The alma-mater and his the conference are the drawing points.. Not the location of Marshall compared to the school in question

Grew up near Boone, been to Huntington and Morgantown. On a rating of safety

1. Boone 2. Morgantown 3. Huntington.

Niceness

1. Boone 2. Morgantown 3. Huntington

Places i'd like to live...

1. None of the above

If I were a coach.

1. Boone/Huntington (depends on the situation) 3. Huntington

Sorry dude.

Don't apologize to me.. I feel sorry for you that you prefer those places to Huntington.. Huntington isn't the nicest place in the world but it has far more to offer than either one of those hell holes.. If you prefer them that tells me all I need to know about you.

Agree. Boone? Please. The Hole is a newer city and basically built around WVU. No downtown to speak of and the Cheat Lake area is the only nice place to love. Not much to do that doesn't involve wvu.
Huntington, like all cities has its warts, but its a better place to live all things considered. jmo.

(12-09-2015 08:58 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Agree. Boone? Please. The Hole is a newer city and basically built around WVU. No downtown to speak of and the Cheat Lake area is the only nice place to love. Not much to do that doesn't involve wvu.
Huntington, like all cities has its warts, but its a better place to live all things considered. jmo.

The city of Morgantown wasn't incorporated until 1838 and didn't start to actually grow until the 1890s. That was after WVU became a university (1867). If it wasn't for Cheat Lake and WVU I doubt the Morgantown would be as big as Logan, WV (Aprox Population 1,700).

And none of you all in Boone or Greenville have to worry. It was announced today that Mr 6-6, 7-5 will be back at The Who. I heard the students was going to have a couch burning party for his return.

(12-09-2015 06:46 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 08:58 AM)SVHerd Wrote:  Agree. Boone? Please. The Hole is a newer city and basically built around WVU. No downtown to speak of and the Cheat Lake area is the only nice place to love. Not much to do that doesn't involve wvu.
Huntington, like all cities has its warts, but its a better place to live all things considered. jmo.

The city of Morgantown wasn't incorporated until 1838 and didn't start to actually grow until the 1890s. That was after WVU became a university (1867). If it wasn't for Cheat Lake and WVU I doubt the Morgantown would be as big as Logan, WV (Aprox Population 1,700).

And none of you all in Boone or Greenville have to worry. It was announced today that Mr 6-6, 7-5 will be back at The Who. I heard the students was going to have a couch burning party for his return.

Don't they have a couch burning for every occasion? I would love to own a furniture store in Morgantown. A lot of repeat business.

John isn't going anywhere.

(12-08-2015 03:54 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Having been to both Morgantown and Huntington, and having no real allegiance to either school, I think Morgantown is slightly nicer IMO. Huntington might be a bigger, but Morgantown a bit nicer.

What part was nicer? The beer bottles in the streets? The smell? The kids in the streets screaming and fighting at all hours of the night? The rundown buildings that are worse than huntington? Just curious, because no one that is objective will call morgantown "nicer" than huntington.

(12-09-2015 08:55 AM)herdinva Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:56 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:19 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I'm not expecting a CFP bid... But I think the AB not out of the realm of possibility, and close doesn't cut it.

At WVU, a coach of Doc's caliber would have a chance at the National Championship though. If he is offered the job I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't take it.

I like Doc and he's done well here.. I'm still not sold on his coaching ability though.. Lets see how he does next year when the schedule is much more difficult than it has been over the past 3 seasons

Dude, you realize he has beat Purdue, Maryland, Louisville, botched kicks at VT from a win, etc, right?

All those teams were pretty bad teams, with the exception of louisville, we were far moe talented than those teams. That is Docs crutch. He can beat teams we are superior to in talent. He loses most of thr ones where talent is equal, and alll the ones against teams with better talent.

He gets outcoached several times a year in cusa... what do you think would happen in the big 12? Where everyone's recruits are pretty talented, and all the coaches are better actual coaches than Doc?

(12-10-2015 09:53 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(12-09-2015 08:55 AM)herdinva Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:56 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:31 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:19 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  No, I'm not expecting a CFP bid... But I think the AB not out of the realm of possibility, and close doesn't cut it.

At WVU, a coach of Doc's caliber would have a chance at the National Championship though. If he is offered the job I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't take it.

I like Doc and he's done well here.. I'm still not sold on his coaching ability though.. Lets see how he does next year when the schedule is much more difficult than it has been over the past 3 seasons

Dude, you realize he has beat Purdue, Maryland, Louisville, botched kicks at VT from a win, etc, right?

All those teams were pretty bad teams, with the exception of louisville, we were far moe talented than those teams. That is Docs crutch. He can beat teams we are superior to in talent. He loses most of thr ones where talent is equal, and alll the ones against teams with better talent.

He gets outcoached several times a year in cusa... what do you think would happen in the big 12? Where everyone's recruits are pretty talented, and all the coaches are better actual coaches than Doc?

It's college. Half of the job is recruiting good players. Doc is very good at that. He also does a good job at developing players which has helped us greatly. I am happy that we have Doc. Our record in the last 3 years says a lot.

(12-08-2015 04:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:12 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 04:05 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:44 PM)HerdAlum83 Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 03:38 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  [quote='THUNDERGround' pid='12770594' dateline='1449606069']
Doubt it, but stranger things have happened. If offered, we will find out if he has really meant what he said or if he's full of poo... (You know, "I love Huntington, the fans, the school..etc). It's hard to turn down the big-time for a coach...

Personally, I think he stays here. His parents live roughly within 20 minutes of Huntington. Morganhole is almost three hours to the north and that area sucks a royal wombat's a-hole. Doc is no spring chicken, but then again, neither was Stewart (sp). And I also think that Doc is not finished with his project at Marshall.

A chance to go coach your alma-mater in the Big 12 versus staying in bumfug Huntington, WV. He has taken you all as far as he can and will not stick around if given the chance to make the jump.

Cool story, bro!

As a commuter school, exactly how much further do you expect your football program can go? The playoff is out of the question as a G5 school and he took you damn near the NY6 bowl last season if not for an egregious loss to a former belch team. The NY6 is as far as you will get to. Unless you are in the AAC, you don't have a shot at the "playoff". Which i've come to dislike more than the BCS games.

FCS playoffs I can get behind because Colgate was able to defeat JMU and Charleston Southern beat the Citadel. Given the conference comparisons, with the way the FBS is set up, that would never be allowed.

AAC in the playoff.