I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

being in the top 12 doesn't guarantee a spot.... Florida/Ole Miss would be out of the top 12, but still get in the Sugar Bowl. G5 rep would be in an access bowl... Really they would have to be in the top 10.

In your scenario
1 Alabama, 2 Mich St, 3 Notre Dame 4 Oklahoma- all in the playoff....
Sugar would then be Ole Miss/Florida vs Baylor
Rose would then be Ohio St/Mich winner vs Stanford
access bowls would have Iowa, Navy for sure, UNC guaranteed, and Clemson. FSU would be out(unless they got over iowa or the Ohio St/Michigan winner-extremely unlikely).

(11-22-2015 07:07 PM)ken d Wrote:  Some interesting early betting lines:

Florida State -1 1/2 over Florida
Michigan -2 over Ohio State
Stanford -3 over Notre Dame
Oklahoma -4 1/2 over Oklahoma State

Baylor @ TCU is -1 and Iowa & Neb is -3. Navy is -1 at UH.

So many big games are basically toss ups this weekend- there are so many scenarios out there, all of which are about as likely as the next one.

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

(11-23-2015 10:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

Like all formulas for getting into the playoff, that is too simple. Depends on what everyone else does this weekend, and, importantly, the manner of how they do it.

(11-23-2015 10:19 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

being in the top 12 doesn't guarantee a spot.... Florida/Ole Miss would be out of the top 12, but still get in the Sugar Bowl. G5 rep would be in an access bowl... Really they would have to be in the top 10.

In your scenario
1 Alabama, 2 Mich St, 3 Notre Dame 4 Oklahoma- all in the playoff....
Sugar would then be Ole Miss/Florida vs Baylor
Rose would then be Ohio St/Mich winner vs Stanford
access bowls would have Iowa, Navy for sure, UNC guaranteed, and Clemson. FSU would be out(unless they got over iowa or the Ohio St/Michigan winner-extremely unlikely).

Got you. I guess they would all three of them and Navy would have to be 5-8. Then I would be curious what they would do.

(11-23-2015 10:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

not with the ******* schedule that UNC has. Sorry 2 FCS games means you are ******* OUT.

(11-23-2015 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

not with the ******* schedule that UNC has. Sorry 2 FCS games means you are ******* OUT.

UNC needs to win out & have a bunch of chaos in front of it to make the playoff. Notre Dame,Alabama, Florida, to lose for starters & maybe Baylor & Oklahoma.

(11-23-2015 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

not with the ******* schedule that UNC has. Sorry 2 FCS games means you are ******* OUT.

Except they would have won their conference and beaten the #1 seed in the process, they would get the perfect opponent at the perfect time. You may not like it, you obviously don't like them or the ACC, but they do have a legitimate shot. A lot of teams are going to fall, and give them room to jump...the PAC 12 is already eliminated. They are an ND loss away from being in the playoff

Sorry but a 11-2 Stanford would be in over UNC.
Iowa/Mich St/Ohio St/Mich would all be in over UNC
Oklahoma/Oklahoma St would be in over UNC
Alabama would be in over UNC

So sorry but that's the fact of the situation. You schedule like a *****, you don't have a chance.

(11-23-2015 10:56 AM)mj4life Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:36 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:26 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 10:07 AM)samandrea Wrote:  I have a question. Assume UNC wins out and FSU beats UF. If no ACC teams make the playoffs and they have 3 in the top 12, where would they go since there are only 4 slots this year?

Once Stanford stomps a hole in Notre Dame next week, they'd go to the playoff

As much as nimrods on this board think it won't happen, winning a P5 conference and beating the top seed while having just 1 loss will get you in the playoff

ND loss + ACC Championship = #4 in the playoff

not with the ******* schedule that UNC has. Sorry 2 FCS games means you are ******* OUT.

UNC needs to win out & have a bunch of chaos in front of it to make the playoff. Notre Dame,Alabama, Florida, to lose for starters & maybe Baylor & Oklahoma.

Alabama and Florida play each other....the loser will obviously be out. Florida will probably be out after this weekend when they play FSU

Notre Dame has to win in Palo Alto....

The only teams that have a prayer at jumping North Carolina, assuming they knocked off #1 Clemson, would be a 1-loss Baylor or Ohio State. But neither one of those schools would be conference champs. The committee gives preference to CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS, and will hold this statistic as a priority.

People think this poll works like the AP or Coaches poll, but it doesn't....

They ideally want to match-up the top 4 teams from around the country....you're going to be hard-pressed to see a conference get multiple teams in a playoff, with records being equal

If you have two 11-1 conference runner-up teams, and a 12-1 conference CHAMPION that just knocked off the #1 seed, you're going to see a strong push for that 12-1 conference champ to inherit that spot in the playoff

We saw a similar situation play out last year, when Ohio State destroyed their competition, won the Big 10 and went to the playoff.

North Carolina's OOC sucks, but a win over Clemson would offset that, and they'd have an extra game due to the conference championship game.

UNC would need a LOT of help.....

They are not going to be ahead of Big Ten champion. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Alabama. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Oklahoma. PERIOD.
They would not be ahead of Notre Dame if ND beats Stanford. PERIOD.
They would maybe have a chance against Stanford. That's their ONLY hope.

(11-23-2015 11:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  UNC would need a LOT of help.....

They are not going to be ahead of Big Ten champion. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Alabama. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Oklahoma. PERIOD.
They would not be ahead of Notre Dame if ND beats Stanford. PERIOD.
They would maybe have a chance against Stanford. That's their ONLY hope.

Assuming they win out, I think UNC is hoping Stanford win over ND followed by either UCLa or USC winning the PAC-12. Head to head with an 11-2, just beat ND Stanford would be close, but I bet Stanford would get the nod with a much tougher schedule. But the circumstances of all the games might come into play.

(11-23-2015 11:36 AM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 11:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  UNC would need a LOT of help.....

They are not going to be ahead of Big Ten champion. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Alabama. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Oklahoma. PERIOD.
They would not be ahead of Notre Dame if ND beats Stanford. PERIOD.
They would maybe have a chance against Stanford. That's their ONLY hope.

Assuming they win out, I think UNC is hoping Stanford win over ND followed by either UCLa or USC winning the PAC-12. Head to head with an 11-2, just beat ND Stanford would be close, but I bet Stanford would get the nod with a much tougher schedule.

I would agree. And I think we have to remember, UNC is #17 right now. The committee thought NAVY was better than them. Something like that isn't going to change overnight.

(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry but a 11-2 Stanford would be in over UNC.
Iowa/Mich St/Ohio St/Mich would all be in over UNC
Oklahoma/Oklahoma St would be in over UNC
Alabama would be in over UNC

So sorry but that's the fact of the situation. You schedule like a *****, you don't have a chance.

B1G championship loser is definitely out. No other way around it. Stanford gets in over UNC if they win out. They need Stanford knocking off ND and losing in the PAC title game. I'm not sure that OSU still gets in over UNC, because I can't see Clemson getting left out over OSU even with a loss.

1. Bama 12-1
2. Iowa/MSU winner
3. OU 11-1
4. UNC 12-1
5. Clemson 12-1
6/7. UM/OSU winner
8. Baylor 11-1
9. Stanford 10-3
10. ND 10-2

It's a very real possibility. I think you will see the committee position UNC in the top 10 this week, or next week.

(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry but a 11-2 Stanford would be in over UNC.

If North Carolina wins out, their win over Clemson will be a better win than anything Stanford has on their schedule...

(11-23-2015 11:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  UNC would need a LOT of help.....

They are not going to be ahead of Big Ten champion. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Alabama. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Oklahoma. PERIOD.
They would not be ahead of Notre Dame if ND beats Stanford. PERIOD.
They would maybe have a chance against Stanford. That's their ONLY hope.

Who would you choose....

12-1 team that just beat the #1 seed
11-2 team that just beat the #4 seed

North Carolina just doesn't SOUND good...but they'd have the resume to jump in the playoff

(11-23-2015 11:42 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry but a 11-2 Stanford would be in over UNC.

If North Carolina wins out, their win over Clemson will be a better win than anything Stanford has on their schedule...

The ND win would be close. Regardless, UNC would be hanging their hat on that one win. If they dominated Clemson, that would definitely help their cause. But if Stanford looked impressive against ND, that would move the needle the other way. No absolutes at this point.

(11-23-2015 11:42 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 11:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Sorry but a 11-2 Stanford would be in over UNC.

If North Carolina wins out, their win over Clemson will be a better win than anything Stanford has on their schedule...

Stanford would have a LOT more meat. It's more than just 1 game.
Stanford SOS 24 And has Notre Dame and UCLA/USC(top 20)
UNC's SOS 68. and has Clemson and #43 NC State

So the SOS gap is going to increase. That's a HUGE issue for UNC.

(11-23-2015 11:46 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  

(11-23-2015 11:22 AM)stever20 Wrote:  UNC would need a LOT of help.....

They are not going to be ahead of Big Ten champion. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Alabama. PERIOD.
They are not going to be ahead of Oklahoma. PERIOD.
They would not be ahead of Notre Dame if ND beats Stanford. PERIOD.
They would maybe have a chance against Stanford. That's their ONLY hope.

Who would you choose....

12-1 team that just beat the #1 seed
11-2 team that just beat the #4 seed

North Carolina just doesn't SOUND good...but they'd have the resume to jump in the playoff

Not really. They would have 1 good win. That's not a resume.