(11-21-2015 03:44 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

This

Who he was spying for is irrelevant. He's a traitor and should never be released.

The fact he was spying for a supposed ally is a second issue and one I couldn't care less about.

He should have been shot.

You're right of course, he should be shot. And while we're at it lets shoot his wife. How about his kids? (if he has any). Lets shoot them too. And of course his parents, can't forget them, I mean they raised him...they definitely deserve shooting. Jesus forgave his executioners while he was on the cross, surely we can find it in ourselves to forgive this man. Maybe I'm naive but I'm all about second chances.

Cute

Still stupid

(11-21-2015 03:31 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

Hell why don't you try spending 30 years in prison and see how well you would stand up. For that matter try 30 days, my guess is you would probably think you had paid for your crime. My opinion is you spend that long behind bars...the slate is wiped clean. Don't worry Mr. Pollard you done your time we're all even now. All is forgiven, or do you not know what that word means?

He passed on to a foreign power critical information on our electronic surveillance network. Had that knowledge fallen into the wrong hands it could have cost American servicemen lives. And that is just what he was successful in doing and what we were able to uncover. We know he at least tried to share information to the Australians, and was strongly suspected of selling information to South Africa and Pakistan. He betrayed our country and should have paid for that with his life.

(11-21-2015 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:31 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

Hell why don't you try spending 30 years in prison and see how well you would stand up. For that matter try 30 days, my guess is you would probably think you had paid for your crime. My opinion is you spend that long behind bars...the slate is wiped clean. Don't worry Mr. Pollard you done your time we're all even now. All is forgiven, or do you not know what that word means?

He passed on to a foreign power critical information on our electronic surveillance network. Had that knowledge fallen into the wrong hands it could have cost American servicemen lives. And that is just what he was successful in doing and what we were able to uncover. We know he at least tried to share information to the Australians, and was strongly suspected of selling information to South Africa and Pakistan. He betrayed our country and should have paid for that with his life.

One day you will be in a position that you will need to receive mercy. That may not be today, it may not even be tomorrow, but it will happen sometime in the future. In a just world that mercy will be denied to you.

Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

Bless your heart!

(11-21-2015 06:08 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

Bless your heart!

Not willing to commit huh? Willing to call for the man to be shot, but not willing to do the job yourself? Forgiveness, it is the most human of endeavors. It's what separates us from the animals, that and opposing thumbs I mean.

(11-21-2015 06:01 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:31 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

Hell why don't you try spending 30 years in prison and see how well you would stand up. For that matter try 30 days, my guess is you would probably think you had paid for your crime. My opinion is you spend that long behind bars...the slate is wiped clean. Don't worry Mr. Pollard you done your time we're all even now. All is forgiven, or do you not know what that word means?

He passed on to a foreign power critical information on our electronic surveillance network. Had that knowledge fallen into the wrong hands it could have cost American servicemen lives. And that is just what he was successful in doing and what we were able to uncover. We know he at least tried to share information to the Australians, and was strongly suspected of selling information to South Africa and Pakistan. He betrayed our country and should have paid for that with his life.

One day you will be in a position that you will need to receive mercy. That may not be today, it may not even be tomorrow, but it will happen sometime in the future. In a just world that mercy will be denied to you.

Doubtful because I am not in a position to sell out my country to foreign powers for profit.

He put the security of each and every American citizen in danger for money. His corpse should have been worm food 30 years ago.

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

You ******* right I would do it since he essentially did the same thing to the entire country.

(11-21-2015 06:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

You ******* right I would do it since he essentially did the same thing to the entire country.

Did we suffer? As a country I mean, Did we suffer? For all the bad this man was supposed to have done, what were the consequences? Are we now subservient to the Israelis. No? I didn't think so. Does the milk of human kindness run any where near your veins? Unfortunately you seem a very small and bitter man.

(11-21-2015 06:40 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

You ******* right I would do it since he essentially did the same thing to the entire country.

Did we suffer? As a country I mean, Did we suffer? For all the bad this man was supposed to have done, what were the consequences? Are we now subservient to the Israelis. No? I didn't think so. Does the milk of human kindness run any where near your veins? Unfortunately you seem a very small and bitter man.

We will probably never know how much we have suffered because of his treason, how many American citizens, both military and civilian, he put in direct danger because of his actions. We may be suffering from his actions to this very day.

And human compassion is great. I'm compassionate. I would make sure he died a quick and painless death.

As for my stature I've proven my bravery many times over. If there is anyone who is clueless here it's you. You fit a line I have used on the police hating leftists around here to a tee......you are a mindless sheep bahhhing away nonsensically in the field in protest of the sheepdog knowing full well you'll be able to sleep tonight because that sheepdog is there to keep the wolves from devouring your weak, simpleton ass. Bahh away little sheep, bahh away.

(11-21-2015 01:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 11:29 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:29 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 08:42 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 10:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  Israel is not our friend or ally. Look up the USS Liberty where they murdered our sailors in 1967. LBJ basically gave them a pass.

Well at least LBJ did something right.

Seriously, only the anti-Israel crowd and conspiracy nutcakes think this was anything more than an error during the fog of war.

So which are you, Bullet, an anti-semite or a fruitcake?

Which are you, Zionist or an Israeli apologist? There are lots of reasonable people who think this was an intentional effort to keep the US from knowing what the Israelis were doing. There's no way the repeated attacks on the ship were anything but intentional, whether by Israel or a commander. Their communications indicate they knew it was American but they sent another wave of attacks.

The conspiracy nutcakes are running Israel now. Not that they don't have some reasons, but Bibi is still a short-sighted nutcake.

When you avoid answering a question by positing an alternative question, you have lost. But thanks for playing, I'll send out your participation trophy.

When you ask a question like you did rather than arguing against the point, it demonstrates your limited intellectual capacity. So discussions with you are pointless.

Your point was ludicrous. That's why it is treated with ridicule. Just to remind you what you posted, let me repeat

Quote:Israel is not our friend or ally. Look up the USS Liberty where they murdered our sailors in 1967. LBJ basically gave them a pass.

To suggest that Israel is not our ally because of an incident almost 50 years ago is, well, as I said, ludicrous. By that fractured logic, neither Japan nor Germany would be an ally since they declared war on the US.
Gawd, show some common sense before you post.

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

This

Who he was spying for is irrelevant. He's a traitor and should never be released.

The fact he was spying for a supposed ally is a second issue and one I couldn't care less about.

He should have been shot.

I probably agree.

But think about how we are now treating Bradley Manning (or whatever that tranny freak is currently called). He got 35 years and sure as sh!t, Obammy will pardon him.

(11-21-2015 07:00 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:40 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:20 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:06 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 06:02 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Trollolo

Nobody is that naive, or has their head that far up their ass.

Solid troll though!

No troll, could you take the weapon and shoot the man? Your answer will tell me all I need to know about you.

You ******* right I would do it since he essentially did the same thing to the entire country.

Did we suffer? As a country I mean, Did we suffer? For all the bad this man was supposed to have done, what were the consequences? Are we now subservient to the Israelis. No? I didn't think so. Does the milk of human kindness run any where near your veins? Unfortunately you seem a very small and bitter man.

We will probably never know how much we have suffered because of his treason, how many American citizens, both military and civilian, he put in direct danger because of his actions. We may be suffering from his actions to this very day.

And human compassion is great. I'm compassionate. I would make sure he died a quick and painless death.

As for my stature I've proven my bravery many times over. If there is anyone who is clueless here it's you. You fit a line I have used on the police hating leftists around here to a tee......you are a mindless sheep bahhhing away nonsensically in the field in protest of the sheepdog knowing full well you'll be able to sleep tonight because that sheepdog is there to keep the wolves from devouring your weak, simpleton ass. Bahh away little sheep, bahh away.

Trust me I've been the wolf. In fact I spent slightly over thirty years being the wolf. I need to apologize to no one, I've done my part. But that's not what's at stake here. What's at stake is the ability forgive my freind. You seem to lack that. And one day that's gonna come back to haunt you. The world works on karma. and your karma is not good. As far as being a conservative, hell I'm a William F Buckley Conservative. I was conservative before conservatism was cool.

(11-21-2015 07:23 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:13 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  30 years is a hell of a long time to spend in prison. He's paid his dues. IMHO.

Traitors should be executed, so no he didn't.

This

Who he was spying for is irrelevant. He's a traitor and should never be released.

The fact he was spying for a supposed ally is a second issue and one I couldn't care less about.

He should have been shot.

I probably agree.

But think about how we are now treating Bradley Manning (or whatever that tranny freak is currently called). He got 35 years and sure as sh!t, Obammy will pardon him.

Which will be a travesty, if whatever is left of little Bradley is ever released or pardoned.

Treason is a crime in a completely different category from anything else. I just don't believe it can be viewed like any other crime.

Christopher Boyce and Dalton Lee (Falcon and the Snowman) gave up more sensitive materials (based upon classification level) to the Soviets than Pollard gave to the Isrealis. Boyce and Lee have been out for 8+ years.

Contrast this to Johnny Walker who was Soviet Agent while in the US Navy. He died in Prison.

Ronald Pelton, a NSA Analyst, has been in Prison since 86 for giving up "Ivy Bells" the NSA- Navy Cable Tapping Op in the Sea of Othotsk.

Because of Pelton's disclosures the Soviets were waiting for a US Navy Nuclear Sub to enter their territorial waters to pick up the Tap Pod. In 1981, a US Navy Nuclear Sub, unknowing that the Op was compromised, came in, picked up the Pod, and discovered the trap. The Submarine Captain was cited and awarded for getting his Boat out of there while being pursued by the Soviets. The Soviets chased the Sub over 70 miles.

Pelton will be released from Prison on November 24, 2015.