(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.



Kudos to those of you willing to AT LEAST take Christian Syrians... at least you're only partial monsters. Apparently your compassion only comes with labels though. smh. Obama said it best with

Quote:That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

You dare to quote Obama. The one who labels everyone...in order to divide and conquer. Do not use that ass clown as an example... if you want to be taken seriously.

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.

Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Kudos to those of you willing to AT LEAST take Christian Syrians... at least you're only partial monsters. Apparently your compassion only comes with labels though. smh. Obama said it best with

Quote:That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

(11-17-2015 11:23 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 11:16 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Why aren't the other Middle East nations absorbing these refugees then? If they are simply fleeing the warfare, they can surely go to the next safe country over then, right?

Because they're selfish and don't want to take care of them? More importantly, what does this have to do with anything? I like to think we're better than the monarchic gulf states.

Better solution is to embargo everything out of the ME. Allow no one to leave the Middle East. No one gets in, no one gets out. THEN, the Saudi's, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, UAE, etc will fix the problem for good.

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

If I gave you 100 grapes and told you 2-3 were poisonous, would you eat any of them?

A horrible example, equating lives with a snack. A better one would be offering me 90,000 puppies to save and 2-3 of them might attack me. Yes, I'd save the puppies.

(11-17-2015 01:16 PM)No Bull Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.



Kudos to those of you willing to AT LEAST take Christian Syrians... at least you're only partial monsters. Apparently your compassion only comes with labels though. smh. Obama said it best with

Quote:That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

You dare to quote Obama. The one who labels everyone...in order to divide and conquer. Do not use that ass clown as an example... if you want to be taken seriously.

Forgive me for not rejecting everything and anything someone says or does because of their name. I voice my opinion on substance, not a label or political party. I'm not a 6 year old.

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

If you mock Christianity on the regular and want it out of everything, you dont get to use it as a weapon and tell me to be "Good Christian" and accept unvetted Syrian refugees. You clearly have no idea what Christianity is or what the Bible says.

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

And you're doing it again.

"Jesus would...." You're basing this off of your own personal understanding of who you WANT Jesus to be. Not who he actually is. I don't remember reading much about his teachings regarding immigration of Syrian Muslims into the United States. But I'll take a look back.

As Christians we are certainly called to provide for the poor and persecuted and I assume that is what you're referring to. And by far more than anyone else in the world, we do just that. But that does NOT entail supporting unfettered immigration of tens of thousands of undocumented Syrian immigrants into the United States. Especially considering recent world events. That isn't compassionate....that's just stupid. The United States can and should help these people by urging surrounding neighbors to take these people in and even (the US taxpayers) providing monetary relief in the form of shelter, food, and the like. We can help and we should help. But there are ways other than blindly accepting an influx of unknown refugees from a region known to have very hostile views of the US and her policies.

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

Raised a devout Methodist.

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

Raised a devout Methodist.

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.



Kudos to those of you willing to AT LEAST take Christian Syrians... at least you're only partial monsters. Apparently your compassion only comes with labels though. smh. Obama said it best with

Quote:That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

You are acting like these people HAVE to travel to the other side of the planet and live here.

That is beyond stupid.

And the idea that America should be AGAINST filtering who is allowed in our country is also brilliantly stupid.

(11-17-2015 01:22 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

Raised a devout Methodist.

That didnt answer my question.

(11-17-2015 01:18 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

If I gave you 100 grapes and told you 2-3 were poisonous, would you eat any of them?

A horrible example, equating lives with a snack. A better one would be offering me 90,000 puppies to save and 2-3 of them might attack me. Yes, I'd save the puppies.

Your example is no better. Try this. As a president of a country, you are offered 30K boxes of goods. You have no idea what is in each box. Some boxes have some good stuff that has value (a productive member of society who chooses to embrace America), others have no value and do nothing but occupy space (welfare recipients, people cloistering themselves in "Muslim communities" who refuse to integrate into society) and several of them have delayed explosive devices that can go off at any time (Terrorist cells). Would you accept the bill of good knowing that you will not know what you are "buying" until after the fact?

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

And you're doing it again.

"Jesus would...." You're basing this off of your own personal understanding of who you WANT Jesus to be. Not who he actually is. I don't remember reading much about his teachings regarding immigration of Syrian Muslims into the United States. But I'll take a look back.

As Christians we are certainly called to provide for the poor and persecuted and I assume that is what you're referring to. And by far more than anyone else in the world, we do just that. But that does NOT entail supporting unfettered immigration of tens of thousands of undocumented Syrian immigrants into the United States. Especially considering recent world events. That isn't compassionate....that's just stupid. The United States can and should help these people by urging surrounding neighbors to take these people in and even (the US taxpayers) providing monetary relief in the form of shelter, food, and the like. We can help and we should help. But there are ways other than blindly accepting an influx of unknown refugees from a region known to have very hostile views of the US and her policies.

lol @ your compassion with an asterisk*


"We're willing to help the poor and persecuted!*"

*Except those that may inconvenience us or come with a semblance of risk to our ivory towers.

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

If you mock Christianity on the regular and want it out of everything, you dont get to use it as a weapon and tell me to be "Good Christian" and accept unvetted Syrian refugees. You clearly have no idea what Christianity is or what the Bible says.

Nor does he have any semblance of reality regarding the Middle East as I'm certain he's never been there, but ya know. Most opinions are based on feels alone.

(11-17-2015 01:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.



Kudos to those of you willing to AT LEAST take Christian Syrians... at least you're only partial monsters. Apparently your compassion only comes with labels though. smh. Obama said it best with

Quote:That's not American. That's not who we are. We don't have religious tests to our compassion.

You are acting like these people HAVE to travel to the other side of the planet and live here.

That is beyond stupid.

And the idea that America should be AGAINST filtering who is allowed in our country is also brilliantly stupid.

Did I say anything about not screening or being careful in evaluating refugees? NO SURE DIDN'T. My issue is in states flat out rejecting ALL refugees.

(11-17-2015 01:24 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

And you're doing it again.

"Jesus would...." You're basing this off of your own personal understanding of who you WANT Jesus to be. Not who he actually is. I don't remember reading much about his teachings regarding immigration of Syrian Muslims into the United States. But I'll take a look back.

As Christians we are certainly called to provide for the poor and persecuted and I assume that is what you're referring to. And by far more than anyone else in the world, we do just that. But that does NOT entail supporting unfettered immigration of tens of thousands of undocumented Syrian immigrants into the United States. Especially considering recent world events. That isn't compassionate....that's just stupid. The United States can and should help these people by urging surrounding neighbors to take these people in and even (the US taxpayers) providing monetary relief in the form of shelter, food, and the like. We can help and we should help. But there are ways other than blindly accepting an influx of unknown refugees from a region known to have very hostile views of the US and her policies.

lol @ your compassion with an asterisk*


"We're willing to help the poor and persecuted!*"

*Except those that may inconvenience us or come with a semblance of risk to our ivory towers.

Nice retort. So if someone isn't in 100% agreement with your views, then they're 100% wrong.

Sigh.

(11-17-2015 01:23 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:22 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

Raised a devout Methodist.

That didnt answer my question.

I follow a moral code Jesus would be proud of.

(11-17-2015 01:27 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:24 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

And you're doing it again.

"Jesus would...." You're basing this off of your own personal understanding of who you WANT Jesus to be. Not who he actually is. I don't remember reading much about his teachings regarding immigration of Syrian Muslims into the United States. But I'll take a look back.

As Christians we are certainly called to provide for the poor and persecuted and I assume that is what you're referring to. And by far more than anyone else in the world, we do just that. But that does NOT entail supporting unfettered immigration of tens of thousands of undocumented Syrian immigrants into the United States. Especially considering recent world events. That isn't compassionate....that's just stupid. The United States can and should help these people by urging surrounding neighbors to take these people in and even (the US taxpayers) providing monetary relief in the form of shelter, food, and the like. We can help and we should help. But there are ways other than blindly accepting an influx of unknown refugees from a region known to have very hostile views of the US and her policies.

lol @ your compassion with an asterisk*


"We're willing to help the poor and persecuted!*"

*Except those that may inconvenience us or come with a semblance of risk to our ivory towers.

Nice retort. So if someone isn't in 100% agreement with your views, then they're 100% wrong.

Sigh.

Because that's what I said. RIGHT. I was just providing the TLDR for your rant.

(11-17-2015 01:22 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:21 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:15 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:13 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 01:11 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Between 70,000-90,000 refugees come to the US every year. You guys are taking 2-3 examples of bad apples and grouping them in with the other 89,998 people. It's just mindbogglingly obtuse.


Are we to abandon tens of thousands of people with such disregard? UnAmerican. Unchristian. Unconscionable.

Stop telling people they aren't Christian. You have no frame of reference. You are speaking out of pure ignorance. You know not of which you speak. You just sound like the typical liberal talking head.....no substance, just baseless accusations.

Care to respond to the actual part of the post with substance? And I'll say what I please thanks. One protesting to be a Christian should be horrified at the shutting of door to those in need. Jesus would be mortified with this thread.

Do you practice Christianity?

Raised a devout Methodist.

By all means, share with us the passages on governmental policy concerning immigration of Syrians to America.

You are doing the typical liberal straw man of pretending there are only two choices........ let them in our country or they all die and its our fault.