(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

(10-23-2015 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-751987-post-125...id12539680

deep inside the borderline.....

(10-23-2015 01:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-751987-post-125...id12539680

deep inside the borderline.....

Hey, if you feel justified constantly insulting people and behaving in this manner, then more power to you.

You are who you are.

I will continue to respect you and your opinions no matter how you treat me.

I don't hate you or want people like you to die off, even if you do. I have nothing but love for you.

(10-23-2015 01:55 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:50 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-751987-post-125...id12539680

deep inside the borderline.....

Hey, if you feel justified constantly insulting people and behaving in this manner, then more power to you.

You are who you are.

I will continue to respect you and your opinions no matter how you treat me.

I don't hate you or want people like you to die off, even if you do. I have nothing but love for you.

you've been insulting mine and others' intelligence for some time in this thread....I'm sorry you don't understand that....I can't force you to understand concept vs. fact.....

it's tete a tete bs playground fare at this point.....

there is no point left to be made.....

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

Not all of it. In the OT texts, when specific places or people are mentioned that show there is a time stamp for the prophecy - those specific markers become metaphors. Take the book of Zephaniah. It clearly states why Judah was going to experience the Day of the Lord, i.e. Baal worship and another specific false god. But those markers are discarded because "everyone" believes exactly like eric. Of course, "everyone" is actually specific groups of evangelicals or fundamentalists.

The prophecies in Daniel are another great example of that. The actual nations the book of Daniel is talking about are pushed into the metaphor camp while the wild imagery is taken as being literal. Certain Christian denominations are ignorant of the genre of apocalyptic literature and why this type of literature was written in the first place. Hint - it wasn't to be prophetic works but was to be inspirational literature to encourage the target audience to keep up the good fight because rewards were coming your way.

(10-23-2015 02:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you've been insulting mine and others' intelligence for some time in this thread....I'm sorry you don't understand that....I can't force you to understand concept vs. fact.....

it's tete a tete bs playground fare at this point.....

there is no point left to be made.....

No. I haven't been insulting anyone.

I shared some verses with you on how God views atheism, but I have not been the one dropping the insults here.

I'm not the one who is angry or bitter. I am fully excepting of you and your beliefs. I have no problems with you believing whatever you want.

You are the one insulting and attacking me for my personal beliefs, and wishes Christians to die off like a disease.

(10-23-2015 02:06 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:01 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  you've been insulting mine and others' intelligence for some time in this thread....I'm sorry you don't understand that....I can't force you to understand concept vs. fact.....

it's tete a tete bs playground fare at this point.....

there is no point left to be made.....

No. I haven't been insulting anyone.

I shared some verses with you on how God views atheism, but I have not been the one dropping the insults here.

I'm not the one who is angry or bitter. I am fully excepting of you and your beliefs. I have no problems with you believing whatever you want.

You are the one insulting and attacking me for my personal beliefs, and wishes Christians to die off like a disease.

trust me....I'm not angry....I'm laughing.....

all this shite is funny to me.....

(10-23-2015 02:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  trust me....I'm not angry....I'm laughing.....

all this shite is funny to me.....

yup

Like I said, I have nothing but respect for you and your opinions. I have no problem with you and I have nothing but love for you.

Even if you continue to wish for me to die. I still feel the same way.

(10-23-2015 02:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:08 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  trust me....I'm not angry....I'm laughing.....

all this shite is funny to me.....

yup

Like I said, I have nothing but respect for you and your opinions. I have no problem with you and I have nothing but love for you.

Even if you continue to wish for me to die. I still feel the same way.

but I wish you didn't wish for you to die.....your belief in 'those' teachings will regardless of what I think....

I always love my fellow man.....especially when I get hungry

(10-23-2015 02:04 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

Not all of it. In the OT texts, when specific places or people are mentioned that show there is a time stamp for the prophecy - those specific markers become metaphors. Take the book of Zephaniah. It clearly states why Judah was going to experience the Day of the Lord, i.e. Baal worship and another specific false god. But those markers are discarded because "everyone" believes exactly like eric. Of course, "everyone" is actually specific groups of evangelicals or fundamentalists.

You are fooling no one.

As your own links just said, the Day of the Lord is judgement upon ALL nations and people, INCLUDING Jerusalem, which is still full of Jews who deny Jesus and worship idols.

Many Jews have been worshiping Idols for their entire history. From the Exodus, through the conquest of Canaan,, through Davids Kingdom, thorough the prophets, through Christs time, even today in 2015 and will continue until Christs return.

Zephaniah has all the nations being judged, Jesus destroying all His enemies on the earth, reigning as THE King from Jerusalem. ect.ect.ect. Jesus isn't even born until 500+ years after the Babylonian captivity, and He wasn't prophesied to reign as King on the earth until His second coming.

There is no major denomination that believes the Day of the Lord was Babylon conquering Israel. There hasn't been for the last 2000 years.

(10-23-2015 02:04 PM)miko33 Wrote:  The prophecies in Daniel are another great example of that. The actual nations the book of Daniel is talking about are pushed into the metaphor camp while the wild imagery is taken as being literal.

That is just a strait up lie again. I don't know of any Christians who take the imagery of Daniel literally.

No one thinks 4 literal beasts are going to come out of the sea.

The beasts described are Kingdoms that rule the world, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. That is not an opinion or translation, those are the exact nations given for each beast in the text. Its not left open to translation. Those 4 beasts represent those specific 4 Kingdoms.

Pretty much all denominations agree with this.

Why? Because that is what the text says word for word.

eric....I'm going to give you this....nsfw btw

me: Kevin

you: Prince

us: neither but are in principle....

The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and five times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Revelation 6:17; 16:14).


People can read and judge for themselves.

(10-23-2015 02:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and five times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Revelation 6:17; 16:14).


People can read and judge for themselves.

What exactly does that prove?

(10-23-2015 02:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and five times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Revelation 6:17; 16:14).


People can read and judge for themselves.

What exactly does that prove?

that you decided to not be judge and jury.....

nor punch and judy......

(10-23-2015 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

In his defense, you aren't really interested in discussing anything that disputed your understanding of the word atheist, either, instead choosing to make bitter comments revolving 'splitting hairs' or how you just 'disagree' as if it's an opinion and not fact based argument.

So, I'm not sure what sort of high road you're able to take at this point.

(10-23-2015 02:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and five times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Revelation 6:17; 16:14).


People can read and judge for themselves.

What exactly does that prove?

lol

These verses illustrate that the Day of the Lord is Judgment against all mankind and the return of Christ.

(10-23-2015 02:04 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

Not all of it. In the OT texts, when specific places or people are mentioned that show there is a time stamp for the prophecy - those specific markers become metaphors. Take the book of Zephaniah. It clearly states why Judah was going to experience the Day of the Lord, i.e. Baal worship and another specific false god. But those markers are discarded because "everyone" believes exactly like eric. Of course, "everyone" is actually specific groups of evangelicals or fundamentalists.

The prophecies in Daniel are another great example of that. The actual nations the book of Daniel is talking about are pushed into the metaphor camp while the wild imagery is taken as being literal. Certain Christian denominations are ignorant of the genre of apocalyptic literature and why this type of literature was written in the first place. Hint - it wasn't to be prophetic works but was to be inspirational literature to encourage the target audience to keep up the good fight because rewards were coming your way.

Well of course the Bible as a whole makes more sense if you don't take it literally, from Noah to Jonah to everything in between. Even the Christ story itself doesn't really hold up, unless of course you'd believe your daughter if she got knocked up and claimed it was god that did it.

(10-23-2015 02:52 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:48 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:46 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 01:42 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I find it so odd that someone would actually believe all of this literally.

move to missippy.....it gits easy to understand ig-nance.....

Stinkfest, you are not even trying to discuss anything at all and haven't for multiple days here.

All you are doing is making bitter, nasty posts trying to be insulting...... distorting and twisting everything I post in a blatantly dishonest manner.

You really need to take a step back and consider your behavior here.

We already know you disagree with my faith. Why just continue dropping petty insults every other post and distort everything I say?

What do you hope to accomplish by simply acting like a jerk over and over again?

In his defense, you aren't really interested in discussing anything that disputed your understanding of the word atheist, either, instead choosing to make bitter comments revolving 'splitting hairs' or how you just 'disagree' as if it's an opinion and not fact based argument.

So, I'm not sure what sort of high road you're able to take at this point.

Whats to discuss? I accepted your definition and understanding of the word atheist.

How is that still an issue?

Are you not an atheist? Is he not an atheist?

I will call you whatever you prefer. Atheist or agnostic.

(10-23-2015 02:54 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:48 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 02:33 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The phrase “the day of the Lord” is used 19 times in the Old Testament (Isaiah 2:12; 13:6, 9; Ezekiel 13:5, 30:3; Joel 1:15, 2:1,11,31; 3:14; Amos 5:18,20; Obadiah 15; Zephaniah 1:7,14; Zechariah 14:1; Malachi. 4:5) and five times in the New Testament (Acts 2:20; 1 Thessalonians 5:2; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 2 Peter 3:10). It is also alluded to in other passages (Revelation 6:17; 16:14).


People can read and judge for themselves.

What exactly does that prove?

lol

These verses illustrate that the Day of the Lord is Judgment against all mankind and the return of Christ.

According to the Bible.

I'm not sure what citing the Bible proves, other than that the Bible indeed says what it does.