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(10-03-2015 10:10 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  On their last drive, we had safeties lined up 10-15 yards off the line and backpedaling at the snap. They usually got to the ball carrier as the tackle was being made. When UD got close enough that we couldn't backpedal out the back of the endzone, DHC made a play at the line of scrimmage. Why were we playing as if they were going to throw deep?

Exactly what I was yelling at the TV about. I could live with getting burned playing one on one on the outside, but no excuse not to stack the box on that last series. D-coordinator was not watching the same game we were watching.
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(10-03-2015 10:09 PM)62Indian Wrote:  Well, we have maintained our record of NEVER winning when playing on national TV. The Tribe played well in the third quarter; and was a friggin embarassment in the first, second, and fourth quarters!! I wonder how many of our potential recruits were watching on national TV?? Ugh, and barf!!!

So much for our "signature victory" over Stony Brook. Elon may be the only potential "W" on the remaining schedule.

What a disappointing performance!!

The Tribe won on NBCSN last weekend...a national telecast
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(10-03-2015 10:23 PM)Tribe Fan Wrote:  
(10-03-2015 10:09 PM)62Indian Wrote:  Well, we have maintained our record of NEVER winning when playing on national TV. The Tribe played well in the third quarter; and was a friggin embarassment in the first, second, and fourth quarters!! I wonder how many of our potential recruits were watching on national TV?? Ugh, and barf!!!

So much for our "signature victory" over Stony Brook. Elon may be the only potential "W" on the remaining schedule.

What a disappointing performance!!

The Tribe won on NBCSN last weekend...a national telecast

Last week wasn't NBCSN, it was Comcast Sports Net and was regional. We've never won on national TV.
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Think the D read their newspaper clippings too much as I did not see the emotion that we had vs Stonybrook! I t did not help any that the D could not get off the field except in the third Q. This team is better than they played tonight so disappointed in this effort but we need to see if the team will rise to the challenge over the next 4 games.
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(10-03-2015 10:21 PM)TribeTrack Wrote:  
(10-03-2015 10:10 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  On their last drive, we had safeties lined up 10-15 yards off the line and backpedaling at the snap. They usually got to the ball carrier as the tackle was being made. When UD got close enough that we couldn't backpedal out the back of the endzone, DHC made a play at the line of scrimmage. Why were we playing as if they were going to throw deep?

Exactly what I was yelling at the TV about. I could live with getting burned playing one on one on the outside, but no excuse not to stack the box on that last series. D-coordinator was not watching the same game we were watching.

Great point. Last week we stacked up to stop the run. UD does not pass, so why the change.
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Like previous commenters, I agree this was a totally disheartening defeat, the pits. Agree, too, 100% on the defensive setup on the final UD drive; they can't pass and we should have dared them too.

Some comments:

*We lost to a poor Delaware team, perhaps the worst I've ever seen.

*We were worse than flat...looked lethargic. Of course when yoou lose you can seem to be lethargic, but in this case we were--no fire.

*Ridiculous time of possession: we had ball 19 minutes, UD 41 minutes. This is perhaps big reason we couldn't stop their last two drives; defense was bushed.

*Once again, as in recent years, too often settling for FGs, not TDs. We had to get a TD on one of those three FG possessions.

*Passing game was erratic. Just one completion to Dedmon...we should have plays for him on every pass as a potential receiver.

*Dorka showed terrific fg leg, but his last punt--just 32 yards to set up Delaware on their 45 yardline spelled doom---you could feel it. They used up the whole clock of 5:52 running 12 plays to set up winning FG. Of course, Windmuller was hurt so Dorka had to punt.

****We have developed a very bad habit of losing games where we had lead on opposition long drives in the final minutes. Four in the past three years (UD yesterday, JMU last year, and Villanova the past two years!). This is not a positive habit!

Again, this was a very depressing loss...we are a better team than we showed in last evening's
anemic effort.
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A couple of other observations. Up nine points we should have had our foot on their throat crushing their wind pipe. Instead we let the up off the ground and hoped the clock would run out. Non-aggressive coaching just like we see all the time. Mr. conservative runs this team. Compare this game to how we called the UVA game on both sides of the ball. Clearly were gambling more in that game and not at all this game.

The team was flat.

The punt block was just about nobody wanting to block the kid coming right up the middle. Sure he stunted from the outside, but WTF.

Running game was fine. Passing game was horrifying. Take away the Dedmon 57 yard play and look at Cluely's stats. Ouch. You can't rely on the run when the pass isn't working.

I don't want to hear about Delaware being more athletic, faster, stronger than us. That's a cop out and I don't really believe it. IMO they pretty much sucked and we let them biatch slap us. Just like we let them own us in hoops for no good reason.

That may be the worst QB we face all year. They might as well have run the wild cat.
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The last 3 years we lose nearly all the close games. We were stomped by UR back to back years and by NH last year. Excluding the loss at VT, the formula seems to be we cannot close in the 4th. The offense is unable to score a TD in the 4th, see either Villanova game or JMU or 2013 Towson. The play calling with the lead becomes very conservative. The defense can't get the big stop. The disappointing part of last night is it becomes the first loss to a bottom tier CAA squad. Flat bad all around last night. The reason we haven't been 2-0 in the league in 11 years is we do not close out close contests.

This could still be a good season but we need to figure that out. The same ailment plagues UVA as well. They find ways to lose. The game plan and the play was inspired in the first 3 games. Perhaps we were just totally flat and not ready to play. You can have 1 game like that and still be successful but not 2.
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(10-04-2015 06:57 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The last 3 years we lose nearly all the close games. We were stomped by UR back to back years and by NH last year. Excluding the loss at VT, the formula seems to be we cannot close in the 4th. The offense is unable to score a TD in the 4th, see either Villanova game or JMU or 2013 Towson. The play calling with the lead becomes very conservative. The defense can't get the big stop. The disappointing part of last night is it becomes the first loss to a bottom tier CAA squad. Flat bad all around last night. The reason we haven't been 2-0 in the league in 11 years is we do not close out close contests.

This could still be a good season but we need to figure that out. The same ailment plagues UVA as well. They find ways to lose. The game plan and the play was inspired in the first 3 games. Perhaps we were just totally flat and not ready to play. You can have 1 game like that and still be successful but not 2.
Will see. All agree the entire team was flat. As many have commented, last night looked like too many games in the past when we got way too conservative, and the lead slipped away. Puzzling that the playcalling reverted back after some nice changes earlier in the year. Last night both the OC & DC were off!!

After watching the UVa game I had the feeling JL knew he had a good squad, knew his coaching days were very limited, and was going for it. Last night did not have that feel to it.
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(10-04-2015 06:57 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The last 3 years we lose nearly all the close games. We were stomped by UR back to back years and by NH last year. Excluding the loss at VT, the formula seems to be we cannot close in the 4th. The offense is unable to score a TD in the 4th, see either Villanova game or JMU or 2013 Towson. The play calling with the lead becomes very conservative. The defense can't get the big stop. The disappointing part of last night is it becomes the first loss to a bottom tier CAA squad. Flat bad all around last night. The reason we haven't been 2-0 in the league in 11 years is we do not close out close contests.

This could still be a good season but we need to figure that out. The same ailment plagues UVA as well. They find ways to lose. The game plan and the play was inspired in the first 3 games. Perhaps we were just totally flat and not ready to play. You can have 1 game like that and still be successful but not 2.

Being compared to UVa in football is not good to hear!!03-weeping
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(10-04-2015 07:08 AM)TribeNomad Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 06:57 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The last 3 years we lose nearly all the close games. We were stomped by UR back to back years and by NH last year. Excluding the loss at VT, the formula seems to be we cannot close in the 4th. The offense is unable to score a TD in the 4th, see either Villanova game or JMU or 2013 Towson. The play calling with the lead becomes very conservative. The defense can't get the big stop. The disappointing part of last night is it becomes the first loss to a bottom tier CAA squad. Flat bad all around last night. The reason we haven't been 2-0 in the league in 11 years is we do not close out close contests.

This could still be a good season but we need to figure that out. The same ailment plagues UVA as well. They find ways to lose. The game plan and the play was inspired in the first 3 games. Perhaps we were just totally flat and not ready to play. You can have 1 game like that and still be successful but not 2.
Will see. All agree the entire team was flat. As many have commented, last night looked like too many games in the past when we got way too conservative, and the lead slipped away. Puzzling that the playcalling reverted back after some nice changes earlier in the year. Last night both the OC & DC were off!!

After watching the UVa game I had the feeling JL knew he had a good squad, knew his coaching days were very limited, and was going for it. Last night did not have that feel to it.

I agree. The whole team looked flat. We were given a gift not to be blown out in the 1st half and still faded once we got the lead. We owe Villanova for the last 2 4th quarters. Hopefully we can bounce back. Then we will have to take care of business at home.
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(10-04-2015 07:13 AM)TribeNomad Wrote:  
(10-04-2015 06:57 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  The last 3 years we lose nearly all the close games. We were stomped by UR back to back years and by NH last year. Excluding the loss at VT, the formula seems to be we cannot close in the 4th. The offense is unable to score a TD in the 4th, see either Villanova game or JMU or 2013 Towson. The play calling with the lead becomes very conservative. The defense can't get the big stop. The disappointing part of last night is it becomes the first loss to a bottom tier CAA squad. Flat bad all around last night. The reason we haven't been 2-0 in the league in 11 years is we do not close out close contests.

This could still be a good season but we need to figure that out. The same ailment plagues UVA as well. They find ways to lose. The game plan and the play was inspired in the first 3 games. Perhaps we were just totally flat and not ready to play. You can have 1 game like that and still be successful but not 2.

Being compared to UVa in football is not good to hear!!03-weeping

To be fair, Cluley was not very effective with his short passing game last night and guys were not open much other than Dedmon. So that likely impacted the play calling. We need that 2nd receiving option after Dedmon. Ballard was a very good 3rd down receiver for us. Will be interesting to see who takes it. Don't recall Hart playing last night and Reeves and Armstrong were ineffective. But due to the run defense we really didn't have the ball much.
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Don't blame it on the receivers. Cluely had Caskin and Dedmon open and couldn't get them the ball. Hats off to Delaware for tight coverage, but it wasn't like Cluely was running for his life either. Just crappy execution. Also, we weren't in third and long very often either. Lots of third and five or six, but we couldn't find our short passing rhythm.
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Team looked uninspired.
Play calling was very conservative.
We should have known better than settle for FG three times in the 2nd half.
Delaware is not terrible. Anyone who saw them play Villanova and UNC could see this team has talent. They are young and prone to mistakes - which they made none last night.
Credit to the Delaware defense. They look well coached and kept them in the game against a Robertson led Villanova team and a good portion of the game in Chapel Hill.

Not the end of the world, it's one loss. Team will need to rebound though - we were 0-3 last year against the next three conference opponents. If we can take 2 of 3, I think a very good season will be in reach.
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I thought the receivers were fine. Cluley off last night. As we all know, WM lives and dies on execution, and last night was not a night where things were clicking.
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Last night was as disheartening as UVA and SB games were encouraging. Which team and staff will show up for the rest of the year? I agree with an earlier poster you can have one of these games a year, but not two. It is baffling as to why we could stop a one dimensional team if we are rotating 10 guys on the DLine.

I also don't understand how we could come out after half and dominate the line of scrimmage for a quarter, then surrender it for the next quarter.
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(10-04-2015 08:26 AM)LeadBolt Wrote:  Last night was as disheartening as UVA and SB games were encouraging. Which team and staff will show up for the rest of the year? I agree with an earlier poster you can have one of these games a year, but not two. It is baffling as to why we could stop a one dimensional team if we are rotating 10 guys on the DLine.

I also don't understand how we could come out after half and dominate the line of scrimmage for a quarter, then surrender it for the next quarter.

A previous poster noted the alignment, the last drive especially the DB's were off the line, and often moving back at the snap?? What was the defensive staff telling them? At the SB game we did not seem concerned about the pass, and stacked the line. What made UD different??
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The UD QB after being truly mediocre all season managed to throw not too bad. Their TD Q4 TD was on a pretty well thrown pass. May have forced us to play off a bit.

The game sucked, despite playing not well we had a chance to hold on for the win. UD is a young team growing together fast. Our team has a great season ahead of us. Chance to get on a roll against Nova next week before three straight home games.
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Getting away from UD for a moment; for what reason would a good QB prospect sign with the Tribe? Is similar to basketball and post players. There needs to be a compelling reason for these prospects to sign. For the moment, I don't see one.
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(10-04-2015 10:09 AM)SoCal Frank Wrote:  Getting away from UD for a moment; for what reason would a good QB prospect sign with the Tribe? Is similar to basketball and post players. There needs to be a compelling reason for these prospects to sign. For the moment, I don't see one.
I dunno but they keep signing so I won't question it.

As for the game it sucked. Confusing play calling by not running the clock late in the game. Baffling defensive alignments where we only had 5 or 6 in the box most of this game. A huge missed assignment on a blocked punt. But ultimately I blame myself. Sorry wrnbldg.
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