(08-26-2015 10:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:07 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm beyond the blame game here, white/black/gay/straight, this is a double murder done by an individual.

So you don't play the blame game, yet you took the time to post this...

Quote:I have a feeling that you don't even care that people died, just that a black man did it. That's pretty low.

I don't know about you, but to me it looks like you're playing the blame game. Quite the double standard you walked into.

Black dude tweeted about racism, shot 3 white people. Is what it is.

They were the ramblings of a madman.

Racist mad man.

(08-26-2015 10:18 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:12 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You responded, how am I possibly talking to myself?

Well, you seem to have a distinct lack of knowledge on how to use the reply button. So I have to assume you're talking to yourself.

No, you don't, you just choose to instead of actually addressing the content of my post because you know you can't rationally defend what you said.

Maybe if you read more than the two posts that compromised this page when you decided to inject your ignorance, you would see I have nothing to defend. Yet you didn't read the previous page, made some random post and decided to play the "I'm so much smarter than you" card.

You're the one, four post into responding to me, that has yet to address what I actually wrote. Is there or is there not a difference between playing the 'blame game' in regards to the horrible incident which occurred and holding a poster responsible for what they said?

(08-26-2015 10:20 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:11 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:07 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm beyond the blame game here, white/black/gay/straight, this is a double murder done by an individual.

So you don't play the blame game, yet you took the time to post this...

Quote:I have a feeling that you don't even care that people died, just that a black man did it. That's pretty low.

I don't know about you, but to me it looks like you're playing the blame game. Quite the double standard you walked into.

Black dude tweeted about racism, shot 3 white people. Is what it is.

They were the ramblings of a madman.

Racist mad man.

Most people I've encountered with significant psychological disorders hold racist or highly discriminatory views.

(08-26-2015 10:20 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:18 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:12 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:06 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  You responded, how am I possibly talking to myself?

Well, you seem to have a distinct lack of knowledge on how to use the reply button. So I have to assume you're talking to yourself.

No, you don't, you just choose to instead of actually addressing the content of my post because you know you can't rationally defend what you said.

Maybe if you read more than the two posts that compromised this page when you decided to inject your ignorance, you would see I have nothing to defend. Yet you didn't read the previous page, made some random post and decided to play the "I'm so much smarter than you" card.

You're the one, four post into responding to me, that has yet to address what I actually wrote. Is there or is there not a difference between playing the 'blame game' in regards to the horrible incident which occurred and holding a poster responsible for what they said?

Since you failed to address any of my assertions, let me repeat what I wrote above...

Maybe if you read more than the two posts that compromised this page when you decided to inject your ignorance, you would see I have nothing to defend. Yet you didn't read the previous page, made some random post and decided to play the "I'm so much smarter than you" card.

(08-26-2015 10:23 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:20 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:18 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:12 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:09 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  Well, you seem to have a distinct lack of knowledge on how to use the reply button. So I have to assume you're talking to yourself.

No, you don't, you just choose to instead of actually addressing the content of my post because you know you can't rationally defend what you said.

Maybe if you read more than the two posts that compromised this page when you decided to inject your ignorance, you would see I have nothing to defend. Yet you didn't read the previous page, made some random post and decided to play the "I'm so much smarter than you" card.

You're the one, four post into responding to me, that has yet to address what I actually wrote. Is there or is there not a difference between playing the 'blame game' in regards to the horrible incident which occurred and holding a poster responsible for what they said?

Since you failed to address any of my assertions, let me repeat what I wrote above...

Maybe if you read more than the two posts that compromised this page when you decided to inject your ignorance, you would see I have nothing to defend. Yet you didn't read the previous page, made some random post and decided to play the "I'm so much smarter than you" card.

Is there or is there not a difference between playing the 'blame game' in regards to the horrible incident which occurred and holding a poster responsible for what they said?

(08-26-2015 09:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm beyond the blame game here, white/black/gay/straight, this is a double murder done by an individual.

So you don't play the blame game, yet you took the time to post this...

Quote:I have a feeling that you don't even care that people died, just that a black man did it. That's pretty low.

I don't know about you, but to me it looks like you're playing the blame game. Quite the double standard you walked into.

What exactly did I blame him for?

(08-26-2015 10:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm beyond the blame game here, white/black/gay/straight, this is a double murder done by an individual.

So you don't play the blame game, yet you took the time to post this...

Quote:I have a feeling that you don't even care that people died, just that a black man did it. That's pretty low.

I don't know about you, but to me it looks like you're playing the blame game. Quite the double standard you walked into.

What exactly did I blame him for?

Bolded it for you.

(08-26-2015 03:06 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 02:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  That's your opinion. Lots of us, after watching an ever increasing avalanche of gun violence, feel otherwise.

Stop making things up..

Quote:We have a system of firearm proliferation. With effectively zero controls.

Stop making things up

This can't be quoted enough.

(08-26-2015 10:55 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 10:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:58 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:07 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I'm beyond the blame game here, white/black/gay/straight, this is a double murder done by an individual.

So you don't play the blame game, yet you took the time to post this...

Quote:I have a feeling that you don't even care that people died, just that a black man did it. That's pretty low.

I don't know about you, but to me it looks like you're playing the blame game. Quite the double standard you walked into.

What exactly did I blame him for?

Bolded it for you.

That's not blaming him for anything. I didn't assign him responsibility for any event.

(08-26-2015 10:58 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 03:06 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 02:46 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  That's your opinion. Lots of us, after watching an ever increasing avalanche of gun violence, feel otherwise.

Stop making things up..

Quote:We have a system of firearm proliferation. With effectively zero controls.

Stop making things up

This can't be quoted enough.

Tom should have done some more reading before making that statement. If we want to stop gun crime, then we need to legalize marijuana and decriminalize other drugs. That is the overwhelming reason for the majority of gun violence in this country.

What a nightmare

My heart goes out to the Victims families. Can't we have a one day moratorium on going after each other's throats. These same issues will be here next week people. Both sides need to focus on the two innocent people who lost their lives.

Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

(08-26-2015 11:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  My heart goes out to the Victims families. Can't we have a one day moratorium on going after each other's throats. These same issues will be here next week people. Both sides need to focus on the two innocent people who lost their lives.

No we can't. One week later no one will care these folks died especially gun nuts. They always delay the discussion about gun control with the same damn excuses " Lets not politicize....." and the next week no one cares, the debate doesn't happen.

(08-27-2015 12:43 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

We're all ears.

With murder already illegal, I am anxious to hear the new law you would put in place that would have prevented this from happening.

(08-27-2015 12:45 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 11:46 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  My heart goes out to the Victims families. Can't we have a one day moratorium on going after each other's throats. These same issues will be here next week people. Both sides need to focus on the two innocent people who lost their lives.

No we can't. One week later no one will care these folks died especially gun nuts. They always delay the discussion about gun control with the same damn excuses " Lets not politicize....." and the next week no one cares, the debate doesn't happen.

This week....next week....does not matter.

Until you can come up with 2/3rds of the Congress and 2/3rds of the State Legislatures you are not going to get what you want. Which will be never...you are screaming at cloud.

(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:43 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

We're all ears.

With murder already illegal, I am anxious to hear the new law you would put in place that would have prevented this from happening.

LOL? Does justice to the murderer bring back the ones that were lost? Someone's family member was lost regardless of what happened to the killer. So murder being illegal is no solution. These acts need to be prevented.

I am not going to focus on one shooting, rather on the trend of mass shootings on a weekly basis. A start would be requiring all guns to be registered to the person and passing legislation that at least keeps mentally disturbed people and terrorists from acquiring them with ease. If you own a gun, and later on you are diagnosed with mental issues/ or are put on a terror watch list, then the police needs to confiscate the guns of the mentally disturbed and of the possible terrorist. Most Americans want common sense gun laws but the NRA crazies have too much political influence to let this happen.

Oh and Australia has already done it. Unlike us, they learn from mass shootings.

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/12/6/365.full

(08-27-2015 12:43 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

Can you name a proposed law from you gun controllers that would have prevented these murders?

You say we need greater gun control......tell me what has been proposed that would have prevented these murders.

(08-27-2015 12:43 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

Our problem is that, as a free country, we don't usually punish people for what we think they might do....only for what they actually do.

This puts a big damper on barring people from exercising their civil rights arbitrarily based on our suspicions of their potential creepiness.

(08-27-2015 01:15 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:53 AM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 12:43 AM)AirRaid Wrote:  Who does this surprise? There needs to be some form of gun control that atleast bars crazies from acquiring weapons. Heck, suspected terrorists can acquire weapons legally with ease, let alone crazies like this guy.

With right wing clowns such as these ECU morons (not surprising), this nation is scroomed

We're all ears.

With murder already illegal, I am anxious to hear the new law you would put in place that would have prevented this from happening.

LOL? Does justice to the murderer bring back the ones that were lost? Someone's family member was lost regardless of what happened to the killer. So murder being illegal is no solution. These acts need to be prevented.

I am not going to focus on one shooting, rather on the trend of mass shootings on a weekly basis. A start would be requiring all guns to be registered to the person and passing legislation that at least keeps mentally disturbed people and terrorists from acquiring them with ease. If you own a gun, and later on you are diagnosed with mental issues/ or are put on a terror watch list, then the police needs to confiscate the guns of the mentally disturbed and of the possible terrorist. Most Americans want common sense gun laws but the NRA crazies have too much political influence to let this happen.

Oh and Australia has already done it. Unlike us, they learn from mass shootings.

http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/12/6/365.full

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-...gun-deaths

Quote:You would think such dramatic new restrictions were bound to help. But the striking thing is how little effect they had on gun deaths.

It's true the homicide rate fell after the law took effect -- but it had also been falling long before that. A study published by the liberal Brookings Institution noted that the decline didn't accelerate after 1996. Same for lethal accidents. Suicide didn't budge. At most, they conclude "there may" -- may -- "have been a modest effect on homicide rates."

Researchers at the University of Melbourne, however, found no such improvement as a result of the new system. "There is little evidence to suggest that it had any significant effects on firearm homicides or suicides," they wrote.

Howard says the country has had no mass shootings since 1996. But mass shootings are such a tiny share of all homicides that any connection may be purely a matter of chance.

We learned from the 1994 assault weapons ban that modest gun control measures don't work. What Australia suggests is that even if radical ones could be passed, they wouldn't work either.