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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
Just Google Radical Chicago groups. There is a very long History of Violent Radical groups there. even today. It's the Radical Hub of America
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(07-19-2015 06:30 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Just Google Radical Chicago groups. There is a very long History of Violent Radical groups there. even today. It's the Radical Hub of America

So, what are you trying to say, that makes it okay for you to be racist bigot and claim it's the American way?
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(07-19-2015 05:54 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  [quote='RobertN' pid='12210319' dateline='1437344653']
So you are presenting an opinion piece as fact? I stand by my statement. Also note I said "most". One other thing, part of the reason that Chicago is so segregated is that immigrants tended to move where other immigrants from their same country live because it is easier to adapt because they share common cultures and language. Not sure if it is the same in the larger cities in the south.

So the writer pulled all of that out of his ass? Have you ever spent a lot of time in the north? Regardless of the reason thwas a fair amount "ism" going on.
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism

You're certifiable. And a moron. And an ignorant ass.

You read that guide and see signs of it here?

Idiot.
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 06:37 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism

You're certifiable. And a moron. And an ignorant ass.

You read that guide and see signs of it here?

Idiot.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. #whyyousomad
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

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No one forced you to come here. If you hate it so much...leave.
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 06:41 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:37 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism

You're certifiable. And a moron. And an ignorant ass.

You read that guide and see signs of it here?

Idiot.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. #whyyousomad

Comprehensions problems? Brain tumor? Hallucinogenic drugs?
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 06:52 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:41 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:37 PM)Paul M Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism

You're certifiable. And a moron. And an ignorant ass.

You read that guide and see signs of it here?

Idiot.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. #whyyousomad

Comprehensions problems? Brain tumor? Hallucinogenic drugs?

No. Hope not. What kind you got?
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(07-19-2015 06:49 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:22 PM)HuskieAlumnus03 Wrote:  Here is a nice little summary guide about radicalization I've briefed soldiers on in the past. I hope some of you posters on this board take a peak and do some self reflection, because I really mean this, after having been sucked into this side of the board, there are some truly radicalized right wingers here. It is damn scary!

Radicalization into Violent Extremism

No one forced you to come here. If you hate it so much...leave.

I'll go further than DefCONNOne and provide you with a destination where you'll feel more at home

http://www.democraticunderground.com/
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
I was going to provide him directions to Bellevue.
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(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?
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(07-19-2015 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 05:24 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 05:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 04:56 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 04:28 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  And we've come to the conclusion that outside of Lord Stanley, NIU is harboring some of the leftwings staunchest supporters. Must be all of the Radical professors filling Your minds with Hate for normal American held beliefs. Or maybe the same poster with multiple accounts on here.
Are you saying racism is a normal American held belief? I would disagree. It might be normal in the Confederate states but most of the rest of the country rejects you rejects.

You are wrong according to this social and cultural analysis professor who is also a noted civil rights historian and author.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i...story.html

Quote:This argument recapitulates an old, tired motif in American journalism that the South is the source of our nation’s social ills. It has been blamed for our obesity problem (“Why Are Southerners So Fat? ” Time asked in 2009), persistent poverty (“The South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty,” the Huffington Post asserted in 2014) and general stupidity (“What’s Wrong with the South?” the Atlantic scoffed in 2009). This time, in the wake of the church shooting, the states of the old Confederacy have become a national scapegoat for the racism that underpinned the massacre. If only they would secede again, Lind and others suggest, the nation would largely be free from endemic prejudice, zealotry and racist violence.

Not even close. These crude regional stereotypes ignore the deep roots such social ills have in our shared national history and culture. If, somehow, the South became its own country, the Northeast would still be a hub of racially segregated housing and schooling, the West would still be a bastion of prejudicial laws that put immigrants and black residents behind bars at higher rates than their white neighbors and the Midwest would still be full of urban neighborhoods devastated by unemployment, poverty and crime. How our social problems manifest regionally is a matter of degree, not kind — they infect every region of the country.

In fact, many of the racial injustices we associate with the South are actually worse in the North. Housing segregation between black and white residents, for instance, is most pervasive above the Mason-Dixon line. Of America’s 25 most racially segregated metropolitan areas, just five are in the South; Northern cities — Detroit, Milwaukee and New York — top the list. Segregation in Northern metro areas has declined a bit since 1990, but an analysis of 2010 census data found that Detroit’s level of segregation, for instance, is nearly twice as high as Charleston’s.

The division between black and white neighborhoods in the North is a result of a poisonous mix of racist public policies and real estate practices that reigned unchecked for decades. Until the mid-20th century, federal homeownership programs made it difficult for black Americans to get mortgages and fueled the massive growth of whites-only suburbs. Real estate agents openly discriminated against black aspiring homeowners, refusing to show them houses in predominately white communities.

When all else failed, white Northerners attacked blacks who attempted to cross the color line, using tactics we typically associate with the Jim Crow South. They threw bricks through the windows of their black neighbors’ homes, firebombed an integrated apartment building and beat black residents in the streets. In Detroit, to name one example, whites launched more than 200 attacks on black homeowners between 1945 and 1965. In Levittown, Pa., hundreds of angry whites gathered in front of the home of the first black family to move there and threw rocks through the windows. Racists burned crosses in the yards of the few white neighbors who welcomed the new family. That violence occurred in 1957, the same year whites in Little Rock attacked black students integrating Central High School, yet it’s that story — of racial bias in the South — that dominates our narrative of America’s civil rights struggle.

Quote:Education remains separate and unequal nearly everywhere in the United States, but Confederate-flag-waving Southerners aren’t responsible for the most racially divided schools. That title goes to New York, where 64 percent of black students attend schools with few, if any, white students, according to a recent report by the Civil Rights Project. In fact, the Northeast is the only region where the percentage of black students in extremely segregated schools — those where at least 90 percent of students are minorities — is higher than it was in the 1960s. Schools in the South, on the other hand, saw the segregation of black students drop 56 percent between 1968 and 2011.

Quote:It’s reassuring for Northerners to think that the country’s problems are rooted down South. But pointing our fingers at Dixie — and, by implication, reinforcing the myth of Northern innocence — comes at a cost. As federal troops and Supreme Court decisions forced social change in the states of the old Confederacy during the 20th century, injustices in the North were allowed to fester. That trend continues, as Northerners seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for their own sins by holding aloft an outdated and inaccurate caricature of a socially stunted South. In 1960, Martin Luther King Jr. said: “Another group with a vital role to play in the struggle for racial justice and equality is the white northern liberals. The racial issue that we confront in America is not a sectional but a national problem.” That holds true for most of America’s troubles today. Enough finger-wagging at Dixie. Change begins at home.
So you are presenting an opinion piece as fact? I stand by my statement. Also note I said "most". One other thing, part of the reason that Chicago is so segregated is that immigrants tended to move where other immigrants from their same country live because it is easier to adapt because they share common cultures and language. Not sure if it is the same in the larger cities in the south.

you just can't stop exposing your ignorance....

what does 'stand by it' w/o quantifiable facts to back it up....'most' is an easy out too

oh, yeah, it's an opinion

I'm cool with op-ed....until it is displayed as fact....then bye-bye with fangs exposed becomes the next move....let's call it the 'Hyde effect' if that makes you happy....
Yep. I stand by my opinion.
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 08:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?

Reading this board you would think that it doesn't exist.
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(07-19-2015 08:16 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 05:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 05:24 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 05:04 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 04:56 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Are you saying racism is a normal American held belief? I would disagree. It might be normal in the Confederate states but most of the rest of the country rejects you rejects.

You are wrong according to this social and cultural analysis professor who is also a noted civil rights historian and author.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i...story.html

Quote:This argument recapitulates an old, tired motif in American journalism that the South is the source of our nation’s social ills. It has been blamed for our obesity problem (“Why Are Southerners So Fat? ” Time asked in 2009), persistent poverty (“The South Is Essentially A Solid, Grim Block Of Poverty,” the Huffington Post asserted in 2014) and general stupidity (“What’s Wrong with the South?” the Atlantic scoffed in 2009). This time, in the wake of the church shooting, the states of the old Confederacy have become a national scapegoat for the racism that underpinned the massacre. If only they would secede again, Lind and others suggest, the nation would largely be free from endemic prejudice, zealotry and racist violence.

Not even close. These crude regional stereotypes ignore the deep roots such social ills have in our shared national history and culture. If, somehow, the South became its own country, the Northeast would still be a hub of racially segregated housing and schooling, the West would still be a bastion of prejudicial laws that put immigrants and black residents behind bars at higher rates than their white neighbors and the Midwest would still be full of urban neighborhoods devastated by unemployment, poverty and crime. How our social problems manifest regionally is a matter of degree, not kind — they infect every region of the country.

In fact, many of the racial injustices we associate with the South are actually worse in the North. Housing segregation between black and white residents, for instance, is most pervasive above the Mason-Dixon line. Of America’s 25 most racially segregated metropolitan areas, just five are in the South; Northern cities — Detroit, Milwaukee and New York — top the list. Segregation in Northern metro areas has declined a bit since 1990, but an analysis of 2010 census data found that Detroit’s level of segregation, for instance, is nearly twice as high as Charleston’s.

The division between black and white neighborhoods in the North is a result of a poisonous mix of racist public policies and real estate practices that reigned unchecked for decades. Until the mid-20th century, federal homeownership programs made it difficult for black Americans to get mortgages and fueled the massive growth of whites-only suburbs. Real estate agents openly discriminated against black aspiring homeowners, refusing to show them houses in predominately white communities.

When all else failed, white Northerners attacked blacks who attempted to cross the color line, using tactics we typically associate with the Jim Crow South. They threw bricks through the windows of their black neighbors’ homes, firebombed an integrated apartment building and beat black residents in the streets. In Detroit, to name one example, whites launched more than 200 attacks on black homeowners between 1945 and 1965. In Levittown, Pa., hundreds of angry whites gathered in front of the home of the first black family to move there and threw rocks through the windows. Racists burned crosses in the yards of the few white neighbors who welcomed the new family. That violence occurred in 1957, the same year whites in Little Rock attacked black students integrating Central High School, yet it’s that story — of racial bias in the South — that dominates our narrative of America’s civil rights struggle.

Quote:Education remains separate and unequal nearly everywhere in the United States, but Confederate-flag-waving Southerners aren’t responsible for the most racially divided schools. That title goes to New York, where 64 percent of black students attend schools with few, if any, white students, according to a recent report by the Civil Rights Project. In fact, the Northeast is the only region where the percentage of black students in extremely segregated schools — those where at least 90 percent of students are minorities — is higher than it was in the 1960s. Schools in the South, on the other hand, saw the segregation of black students drop 56 percent between 1968 and 2011.

Quote:It’s reassuring for Northerners to think that the country’s problems are rooted down South. But pointing our fingers at Dixie — and, by implication, reinforcing the myth of Northern innocence — comes at a cost. As federal troops and Supreme Court decisions forced social change in the states of the old Confederacy during the 20th century, injustices in the North were allowed to fester. That trend continues, as Northerners seek to absolve themselves of responsibility for their own sins by holding aloft an outdated and inaccurate caricature of a socially stunted South. In 1960, Martin Luther King Jr. said: “Another group with a vital role to play in the struggle for racial justice and equality is the white northern liberals. The racial issue that we confront in America is not a sectional but a national problem.” That holds true for most of America’s troubles today. Enough finger-wagging at Dixie. Change begins at home.
So you are presenting an opinion piece as fact? I stand by my statement. Also note I said "most". One other thing, part of the reason that Chicago is so segregated is that immigrants tended to move where other immigrants from their same country live because it is easier to adapt because they share common cultures and language. Not sure if it is the same in the larger cities in the south.

you just can't stop exposing your ignorance....

what does 'stand by it' w/o quantifiable facts to back it up....'most' is an easy out too

oh, yeah, it's an opinion

I'm cool with op-ed....until it is displayed as fact....then bye-bye with fangs exposed becomes the next move....let's call it the 'Hyde effect' if that makes you happy....
Yep. I stand by my opinion.

that I respect....
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(07-19-2015 08:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?

Reading this board you would think that it doesn't exist.

I have not seen a single post that did not condemn that violent act. I have no idea WTF you are talking about. Pieces of cloth with symbols are not responsible for murder.
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RE: Why doesn't anyone want to condemn the idiology that resulted in 9 murders?
(07-19-2015 08:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?

Reading this board you would think that it doesn't exist.

do we get an example, or are we supposed to take you at your word that your thinking is fact?

feel free to sift through any of mine and point out how any are racist.....I canz defendz allz of 'em
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(07-19-2015 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?

Reading this board you would think that it doesn't exist.

I have not seen a single post that did not condemn that violent act. I have no idea WTF you are talking about. Pieces of cloth with symbols are not responsible for murder.
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(07-19-2015 10:14 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 06:51 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years.

Islamic terrorists have a long way to go to catch up on murders.

Hey Firm, many of your boys currently in prison are converting every day to Islam.
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(07-19-2015 08:34 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 08:14 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(07-19-2015 01:35 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

Radical Islam is the cause of terrorism but radical white supremacy is not?

Since when has anyone not condemned it biz?

Reading this board you would think that it doesn't exist.

I have not seen a single post that did not condemn that violent act. I have no idea WTF you are talking about. Pieces of cloth with symbols are not responsible for murder.
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Who on this board has embraced the Klan or their nonsense? I wait for your response.
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