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Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!
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(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)
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(07-18-2015 12:56 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-17-2015 02:35 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(07-17-2015 09:59 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  1. I said supported which means fans, alumni and students who support Texas Tech. We have the 5th-6th largest enrollment but the 3rd largest fan base in Texas.

And your proof of that statement would be...?

(07-16-2015 07:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  2. I defer to the UT President who said we got in on our own merit.

Yes, he did...in his memoirs published in 2013. The book, "The Texas Way", was published by the UT Press and is aimed primarily at the Longhorn Faithful. Not surprisingly it paints a picture that has Cunningham and co calling all the shots when the SWC died.

There have been multiple accounts by journalists, as well as statements by persons who were involved but not connected to UT, that contradict Cunningham's recent attempt at revisionist history. However, the fact that Bob Bullock (the man who did the most to ensure that TT and BU got a spot in the Big XII lifeboat) had been dead for over a decade when the book was published allowed Cunningham to spin events as he saw fit.

(07-17-2015 09:59 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  3. We both could end up in the PAC if UT doesn't get rid of the LHN. Tech, UH, Oklahoma & Oklahoma St. Regardless, we will be fine.

Imho there isn't a school in Texas other than TAMU that can realistically aspire to P5 status without being tied to the Horns. Sucks, but there it is.

1. Can you dispute UH having the 6th-7th smallest fan base in Texas?

2. UH would be in a P5 conference if UH fans cared. I apologize but UH has been left out because no one cares what happens to UH. Don't blame Bob, Ann or Cunningham

3. According to "insiders", UH was told what they needed for a PAC 12 invite. Do you care to explain that? Tech has those goals beat by a mile and we offer more than just Houston. We offer the state of Texas

1. Answering my question with a question? I'll take that as a "no".
2. How many time are we going to go over this? Fan support, or the lack of it, had nothing to do with deciding who got to tag along with UT and TAMU. Houston was left out of the Big XII because, unlike TT/BU, UH didn't have the good fortune to have alums occupying every high executive or legislative office in the state:

Gov Ann Richards (BU)
Lt Gov Bob Bullock (BA from TT, JD from Baylor Law)
Speaker of the House Pete Laney (TT)
Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee John Montford (TT)
House Appropriations Committee Chairman Rob Junell (TT)


The people who did care about what happened to UH were mostly junior legislators whose influence was limited at best. We could have sold out the Dome for the previous decade and it wouldn't have made one damn bit of difference.

3. I think my previous post made it fairly clear that I don't believe a word of the PAC rumors, so...no. I can't.
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RE: David Boren,Oklahoma President puts Big 12 expansion back in news
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.
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(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

It seems to me that in order for that to happen TAMU would have to sign off on the move. Given the level of animosity between the two schools, what makes you so sure they would?
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(07-18-2015 12:20 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  1. Answering my question with a question? I'll take that as a "no".
2. How many time are we going to go over this? Fan support, or the lack of it, had nothing to do with deciding who got to tag along with UT and TAMU. Houston was left out of the Big XII because, unlike TT/BU, UH didn't have the good fortune to have alums occupying every high executive or legislative office in the state:

Gov Ann Richards (BU)
Lt Gov Bob Bullock (BA from TT, JD from Baylor Law)
Speaker of the House Pete Laney (TT)
Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee John Montford (TT)
House Appropriations Committee Chairman Rob Junell (TT)


The people who did care about what happened to UH were mostly junior legislators whose influence was limited at best. We could have sold out the Dome for the previous decade and it wouldn't have made one damn bit of difference.

3. I think my previous post made it fairly clear that I don't believe a word of the PAC rumors, so...no. I can't.

1. We have the 3rd largest attendance in Texas. We have 3rd best TV ratings in Texas. We are top 25 in merchandise sales. A school could have 500k alumni but if 400k don't care, are they really fans. Can a University count on them to help the University with donations, ticket sales?

No they aren't and you know that.

2. I won't argue this anymore but Tech got in on its own merits according to the UT President. That said, we are fortunate that we had powerful alumni in key positions in Texas government.

3. The PAC needs Texas viewers who care about the schools playing in that conference. Besides UT, what school in Texas can offer the PAC loyal viewers regardless of the opponent? TCU and Baylor are out. That leaves Tech, UH, UTEP, UNT, Tx State and UTSA. Which of those schools have loyal fans that show up regardless of the opponent or product on the field?
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(07-18-2015 12:42 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

It seems to me that in order for that to happen TAMU would have to sign off on the move. Given the level of animosity between the two schools, what makes you so sure they would?

A&M only has 1 vote. TV will ultimately decide where schools go. If TV wants Tech in the SEC, A&M can ***** and moan but they will not have a say.
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(07-18-2015 12:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:42 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

It seems to me that in order for that to happen TAMU would have to sign off on the move. Given the level of animosity between the two schools, what makes you so sure they would?

A&M only has 1 vote. TV will ultimately decide where schools go. If TV wants Tech in the SEC, A&M can ***** and moan but they will not have a say.

Hmm...perhaps.

We've gone back and forth quite a bit here over the last few months, and I think it's fair to say we don't agree on much of anything, but your posts have been well thought out and courteous. Props to you.
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(07-18-2015 12:53 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:42 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

It seems to me that in order for that to happen TAMU would have to sign off on the move. Given the level of animosity between the two schools, what makes you so sure they would?

A&M only has 1 vote. TV will ultimately decide where schools go. If TV wants Tech in the SEC, A&M can ***** and moan but they will not have a say.

Hmm...perhaps.

We've gone back and forth quite a bit here over the last few months, and I think it's fair to say we don't agree on much of anything, but your posts have been well thought out and courteous. Props to you.

Thank you04-cheers
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(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.
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(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.
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(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

Actually, we're not fans of that criminal element. 05-stirthepot
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(07-18-2015 03:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

Actually, we're not fans of that criminal element. 05-stirthepot

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(07-18-2015 04:10 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

Actually, we're not fans of that criminal element. 05-stirthepot

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I would not call it a partnership. Texas doesn't need Tech yo go anywhere it wants in college athletics. Tech cannot the same thing about Texas.

So not really a partnership
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(07-18-2015 04:30 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 04:10 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

Actually, we're not fans of that criminal element. 05-stirthepot

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I would not call it a partnership. Texas doesn't need Tech yo go anywhere it wants in college athletics. Tech cannot the same thing about Texas.

So not really a partnership

We will agree to disagree. UT wants Texas Tech as a partner but if UT decided to leave Tech, Tech would be fine.

We are simply to big to be left behind. State of Texas as our home, improved academics, decent TV ratings in Texas and the country, large student body and a large fan base in this massive, growing state.
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"All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)"

I don't know where those ranking exist, but two organizations rank :

Carnegie UH RU/VH TT VH
http://carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/lo...andard.php

"The Top American Research Universities" 2013 ranks UH #72 nationally and TT has no ranking.
http://mup.asu.edu/2013-Report.html

BTW, I never said UH's academics qualify for those conferences.
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(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:04 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Texas Tech's academics are not acceptable to B1G, PAC, or ACC. With Lubbock, TT has no value to the SEC.

Dream on!

All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

The SEC of the 90s is a totally different beast than the SEC of now. Do any research at all and you will find that the agreement is well known.

Id bet a years salary that if Tech didnt have Texas that your options would be G5 or rebuild the Big 12.
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(07-18-2015 04:43 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 04:30 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 04:10 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:52 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

Actually, we're not fans of that criminal element. 05-stirthepot

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I would not call it a partnership. Texas doesn't need Tech yo go anywhere it wants in college athletics. Tech cannot the same thing about Texas.

So not really a partnership



We will agree to disagree. UT wants Texas Tech as a partner but if UT decided to leave Tech, Tech would be fine.

We are simply to big to be left behind. State of Texas as our home, improved academics, decent TV ratings in Texas and the country, large student body and a large fan base in this massive, growing state.

Youre hillarious. NOBODY cares about Tech outside of Florida and to say you have the third largest fanbase is funny considering it is at best a DISTANT 3rd. Id have to see some hard numbers for proof cause last I checked TCU has become VERY popular in Texas.

Your academics may have improved but you dont even qualify for 3 of the conferences. Hell, youre behind my alma mater in so many different categories its scary.
No matter what you say, you add nothing to the SEC. Texas A&M has gotten the network into every market the SEC needs in Texas. THe network is already in Lubbock.... by at least three different providers.
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RE: David Boren,Oklahoma President puts Big 12 expansion back in news
(07-18-2015 07:38 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 10:45 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  All three of those look heavily at level of Research. Tech was ranked 125th... USF is 43rd.

Last two teams added??? Utah (ranked 39th) and Colorado (ranked 58th)

(Houston is 133)

The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

The SEC of the 90s is a totally different beast than the SEC of now. Do any research at all and you will find that the agreement is well known.

Id bet a years salary that if Tech didnt have Texas that your options would be G5 or rebuild the Big 12.

The 1 state SEC school is a myth. If TV wants Texas Tech or Florida St, they will be invited. Simple as that.

I hope you saved up money because Texas Tech offers the SEC and PAC Texas viewers.
07-18-2015 07:53 PM
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RE: David Boren,Oklahoma President puts Big 12 expansion back in news
(07-18-2015 07:53 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 07:38 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 03:45 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 01:18 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(07-18-2015 12:33 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The PAC found Tech academics acceptable enough to issue us an invite. Obviously that invite was contingent on UT moving but it does not change the fact that Larry Scott flew to Lubbock with an invite in hand.

We don't fit in culture wise with the Big 10 or ACC. The SEC would take us because we have a large fan base in Texas.

Did you have an invite without Texas.... NO, so my position still stands. Also, the SEC has had an agreement in place for quite some time that only one school from a state. This is why Florida has been able to block FSU and USC has been able to block Clemson... so Unless Texas A&M agrees to allow you to join then the SEC is also a no.

What it comes down to is that by yourself, you really dont have options. The ONLY thing you really have is a relationship with Texas.

Re-read the post in blue. The SEC tried to get FSU in the 90's but FSU declined. The 1 state school is a myth because TV will get who they want. If they want Tech, Tech gets in. We get in because of our large fan base in a huge state with a ton of viewers.

You are correct, we do have a relationship/partnership with Texas. Lots of school would be thrilled to have the same relationship/partnership as Tech/Texas. I bet South Florida would love to be partners with Florida or Florida St.

The SEC of the 90s is a totally different beast than the SEC of now. Do any research at all and you will find that the agreement is well known.

Id bet a years salary that if Tech didnt have Texas that your options would be G5 or rebuild the Big 12.

The 1 state SEC school is a myth. If TV wants Texas Tech or Florida St, they will be invited. Simple as that.

I hope you saved up money because Texas Tech offers the SEC and PAC Texas viewers.

Tech offers literally nothing. Your football is so so, your basketball is not very good and your academics do not impress anybody. I mean at least Houston is a tier 1 institute. Tech cant even claim that.
The ONLY thing you have going for you is another State school who actually is desireable has to take you with them.

Not once has there ever been a rumor that Tech had an offer to any conference. Everytime its Texas that is desired and they will take you. Every conference would take Texas in a heartbeat... no conference has ever tried to get you without them.

Admit it, youre nothing more then the fat chic who has a hot friend. You might get laid but every guy is wishing you were the hot one.
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