(07-15-2015 10:13 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:02 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 09:36 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  You are not very smart are you? Our AD called twice to get permission from yours to speak with Tommy, Kirby never returned the phone calls, thus Babcock went around him. At both press conferences, your AD came off looking completely blind sided, and inept at his job. But OK, he was going to fire Tommy anyway, that is something you usually hear the in the fourth grade when you get dumped by your girl, Oh, I was gonna dump her anyway. Completely lame, like your university.

Do you have link backing that up? Can you explain Tommy leaving recruits behind to take call and then resign the next day.

I can
[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--tommy-tuberville-cincinnati-texas-tech-drama-002853513.html[url/]

Quote:The departure from Lubbock was abrupt, to say the least. The entire process of jumping from Texas Tech to Cincinnati took about 36 hours, according to Tuberville.

Tommy was told that he needed to fix the mess he created or leave.


Tommy handcuffed both the OC and DC while at Tech. Former Tech OC Neil Brown wanted a passing play on 3rd and 15 and Tommy overruled him with a draw play that got 2 yards.

Does that sound familiar? He recruited Chad Gladgow out of TCU and wouldn't let him run his defense. Cincy fans are learning what Ole Miss, Auburn and Tech fans already know about Tuberville

You side stepped everythng i said, nice job.

How? Provide a link that UC called Tommy and our AD refused?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKaS4PqWxt0
5:56 mark Dan Patrick makes Tuberville look like a fool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKogojAUbeY

Please provide more proof or kindly exit the conversation

Google the docs that got Mike fired, they are hilarious

Tech also wore out their welcome in Houston and also College Station. They destroyed the locker room in Robertson and then the whole poop debacle with A&M in Lubbock. I don't like judging an entire fan base on a certain amount of people but if the shoe fits....

How many lawsuits have they been involved in over the past few years?
How many rushing TDs did Arkansas have last year on you? That was an ugly game.
Most will agree Leach is garbage yet the Tech faithful wold bring him back in a heartbeat.

Congrats on having the bigger fan base and Tubby Smith (lol) but other than that Tech sucks.

(07-15-2015 10:28 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Google the docs that got Mike fired, they are hilarious

Not sure where this fits in the discussion but fire away.

Leach was fired because he wouldn't bow down to an ESPN helicopter dad who wanted more playing time for his idiot son.

I will always hate Kent hance---- that man ruined Texas Tech football.

Kent side stepped Gerald Myers and hired a loser. That loser set us back 5 years and Kliff is trying to clean up the mess.

Sorry OT and I apologize

(07-15-2015 10:54 PM)UHDC Wrote:  Tech also wore out their welcome in Houston and also College Station. They destroyed the locker room in Robertson and then the whole poop debacle with A&M in Lubbock. I don't like judging an entire fan base on a certain amount of people but if the shoe fits....

How many lawsuits have they been involved in over the past few years?
How many rushing TDs did Arkansas have last year on you? That was an ugly game.
Most will agree Leach is garbage yet the Tech faithful wold bring him back in a heartbeat.

Congrats on having the bigger fan base and Tubby Smith (lol) but other than that Tech sucks.

Yet we agreed to a 4 game series with UH. Should Tech rescind that and find a better opponent in Rice?

A&M got tired of getting beat and they ran off. They won't schedule Tech and will stop any talk of us joining the SEC. Does that sound familiar coog?

Why hasn't Arkansas schedule UH?

If Tech sucks-- where does that put UH?

Just sayin

Please educate yourself on A&M lies and fish bait.

(07-15-2015 11:04 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:54 PM)UHDC Wrote:  Tech also wore out their welcome in Houston and also College Station. They destroyed the locker room in Robertson and then the whole poop debacle with A&M in Lubbock. I don't like judging an entire fan base on a certain amount of people but if the shoe fits....

How many lawsuits have they been involved in over the past few years?
How many rushing TDs did Arkansas have last year on you? That was an ugly game.
Most will agree Leach is garbage yet the Tech faithful wold bring him back in a heartbeat.

Congrats on having the bigger fan base and Tubby Smith (lol) but other than that Tech sucks.

Yet we agreed to a 4 game series with UH. Should Tech rescind that and find a better opponent in Rice?

A&M got tired of getting beat and they ran off. They won't schedule Tech and will stop any talk of us joining the SEC. Does that sound familiar coog?

Why hasn't Arkansas schedule UH?

If Tech sucks-- where does that put UH?

Just sayin

Please educate yourself on A&M lies and fish bait.

I've applauded Tech on the series but it benefits us both. We haven't found much difficulty in scheduling decent P5 opponents for the future. That said luckily Leach is gone so Tech won't destroy our home.

A&M did not leave the Big 12 because Tech was beating them (mind you A&M has won 3 straight in the series). Any non-biased person can tell you it was a genius move. A&M went from the shadow of Texas to now being in the spotlight nationally.

Arkansas probably hasn't felt a need to schedule us. Houston also doesn't do 2:1s which I know has scared off some of the bigger programs.

I'll always put UH ahead of Tech. You have a bigger fan base but we've had the better programs across the board for most of our history. Not to mention our location is better and I feel we are a better academic institution.

Honestly if Tech was such a big time school you wouldn't be on a board full of G5 schools defending your school so much. You don't see UT or A&M fans comparing attendance/wins/championships with UH, that is because there is no comparison. With Tech there is.

(07-16-2015 12:22 AM)UHDC Wrote:  and I feel we are a better academic institution.

No reason to "feel" that way, it's a fact. A rout, actually. Go department by department, and you'll see that UH is ranked higher in literally everything with 1 exception -- business.

If we were to ever run off all the part timers and get our 4-year and 6-year grad rates up to around the other "destination" schools in Texas, we would overtake Tech in the overall rankings, as well. Alas, UH was originally (keyword: originally, as we are slowing trending towards a more traditional student body) founded as a working man's/commuter school, so we still have those that work full time while taking a couple classes here and there.

(07-16-2015 12:22 AM)UHDC Wrote:  I've applauded Tech on the series but it benefits us both. We haven't found much difficulty in scheduling decent P5 opponents for the future. That said luckily Leach is gone so Tech won't destroy our home.

A&M did not leave the Big 12 because Tech was beating them (mind you A&M has won 3 straight in the series). Any non-biased person can tell you it was a genius move. A&M went from the shadow of Texas to now being in the spotlight nationally.

Arkansas probably hasn't felt a need to schedule us. Houston also doesn't do 2:1s which I know has scared off some of the bigger programs.

I'll always put UH ahead of Tech. You have a bigger fan base but we've had the better programs across the board for most of our history. Not to mention our location is better and I feel we are a better academic institution.

Honestly if Tech was such a big time school you wouldn't be on a board full of G5 schools defending your school so much. You don't see UT or A&M fans comparing attendance/wins/championships with UH, that is because there is no comparison. With Tech there is.

The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting. Nothing else. In 2009, we saw how UH acted after a 1 point win. FTR, Leach didn't destroy anything.

The Tech-A&M series is probably one of the closest heated rivalries in the country. We beat A&M 10 out the 1st 13 times we played them in the Big 12. Tech in the SEC shores up the entire state ofTexas and brings SEC recruits to Lubbock. No wonder A&M wants to keep us out.

I won't bother with the rest because it isn't worth responding to but I hope 1 day UH can claim its academic "greatness" in a Power 5 conference. Has UH had any luck scheduling UT, A&M or Baylor?

(07-16-2015 05:42 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting.

And thank you for making one of the major points we have been making this whole time for us............

While I would argue against the only reason you clearly see the recruiting benefit to playing in Houston. So do other schools in the B12 among other conferences.

(07-15-2015 05:12 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 12:33 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  When you were not in a conference with UT and/or A&M you didn't fill your stadium either. Yes I'm going back but I equally apply and don't choose what facts to ignore and what I deem relevant.

If you exclude UT and A&M, we still averaged almost 13k more than UH. We managed that having 7k less students on average.

http://www.uh.edu/ir/reports/statistical...996-97.pdf

http://www.irim.ttu.edu/ARCHIVE/ENR/FALLENRL.php

Enrollment? I don't think either one of us needs to worry about that. We are both on the path to Tier 1 in this state. We are both getting quantity and quality quantity at that. Didn't know the science department played on the OL..........

Anyway to address the rest of your post and to further expand on my point.....

You saw at 23.07% boost in attendance (over the previous season) the year you joined the SWC. Tech saw a further 13.55% (over the previous year) the year you joined the B12. There is clear evidence (I just happen to have done my research on Tech) that joining a major conference boost support/attendance for a program that leads to the overall health, stability, and longevity of said program.

As for your UT/A&M boost you saw an average boost of 9.15% over your other home games versus home games against UT and/or A&M prior to the SWC.

As a member of the SWC you lowered that but still saw an average increase of 5.78% over your other home games versus home games against UT/A&M.

Bottom line and to explain this as simply as possible.... What happens when you don't water/feed a plant? It starts to wither. That and the inverse is the point I am trying to make.

The facts support the theory.

(07-15-2015 10:54 PM)UHDC Wrote:  Tech also wore out their welcome in Houston and also College Station. They destroyed the locker room in Robertson and then the whole poop debacle with A&M in Lubbock. I don't like judging an entire fan base on a certain amount of people but if the shoe fits....

How many lawsuits have they been involved in over the past few years?
How many rushing TDs did Arkansas have last year on you? That was an ugly game.
Most will agree Leach is garbage yet the Tech faithful wold bring him back in a heartbeat.

Congrats on having the bigger fan base and Tubby Smith (lol) but other than that Tech sucks.

I am sorry I don't mean to butt in but " poop debacle"?

(07-16-2015 09:25 AM)FUB Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:54 PM)UHDC Wrote:  Tech also wore out their welcome in Houston and also College Station. They destroyed the locker room in Robertson and then the whole poop debacle with A&M in Lubbock. I don't like judging an entire fan base on a certain amount of people but if the shoe fits....

How many lawsuits have they been involved in over the past few years?
How many rushing TDs did Arkansas have last year on you? That was an ugly game.
Most will agree Leach is garbage yet the Tech faithful wold bring him back in a heartbeat.

Congrats on having the bigger fan base and Tubby Smith (lol) but other than that Tech sucks.

I am sorry I don't mean to butt in but " poop debacle"?

Is that a pun?

(07-15-2015 10:15 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 10:06 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Luckily he got to a place that wants him

Some UC fans are happy but some see the same things that made him worthless at Ole Miss, Auburn and Texas Tech.

Ole miss will have to carry me out in a pine box before I leave.

I think as a whole, UC fans are much more appreciative of Tuberville than TT ever was. This is an important year for Tuberville - most of us are expecting him to produce. If he doesn't then he might be on the hot seat, but barring a total meltdown, I don't think UC fans will go berserk like Tech fans did...and still do.

(07-16-2015 05:42 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting. Nothing else. In 2009, we saw how UH acted after a 1 point win.

A one point win over an in-state Big XII school that was also a former conference rival. If Tech fans can't understand why our fanbase would see that as really big deal that's their problem.

(07-15-2015 09:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  Tech fans love Dallas.

I'll bet they do! Compared to the hell-hole of the area that Lubbock is in, it must seem awfully nice. Undoubtedly, the poem "Hell In Texas" applies to that side of the state. http://allpoetry.com/Hell-in-Texas

(07-16-2015 08:21 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 05:42 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting.

And thank you for making one of the major points we have been making this whole time for us............

While I would argue against the only reason you clearly see the recruiting benefit to playing in Houston. So do other schools in the B12 among other conferences.

You have been cordial and I respect that. As of today, only Tech and OU have UH on the schedule.

(07-16-2015 08:33 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 05:12 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 12:33 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  When you were not in a conference with UT and/or A&M you didn't fill your stadium either. Yes I'm going back but I equally apply and don't choose what facts to ignore and what I deem relevant.

If you exclude UT and A&M, we still averaged almost 13k more than UH. We managed that having 7k less students on average.

http://www.uh.edu/ir/reports/statistical...996-97.pdf

http://www.irim.ttu.edu/ARCHIVE/ENR/FALLENRL.php

Enrollment? I don't think either one of us needs to worry about that. We are both on the path to Tier 1 in this state. We are both getting quantity and quality quantity at that. Didn't know the science department played on the OL..........

Anyway to address the rest of your post and to further expand on my point.....

You saw at 23.07% boost in attendance (over the previous season) the year you joined the SWC. Tech saw a further 13.55% (over the previous year) the year you joined the B12. There is clear evidence (I just happen to have done my research on Tech) that joining a major conference boost support/attendance for a program that leads to the overall health, stability, and longevity of said program.

As for your UT/A&M boost you saw an average boost of 9.15% over your other home games versus home games against UT and/or A&M prior to the SWC.

As a member of the SWC you lowered that but still saw an average increase of 5.78% over your other home games versus home games against UT/A&M.

Bottom line and to explain this as simply as possible.... What happens when you don't water/feed a plant? It starts to wither. That and the inverse is the point I am trying to make.

The facts support the theory.

Once again, a solid post. Despite the wishes from some of your fellow coogs, I think Tech and UH will be the next AAU schools in Texas.

You have obviously done more research on attendance than I have. Thanks for the information.

(07-16-2015 11:05 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 08:21 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 05:42 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting.

And thank you for making one of the major points we have been making this whole time for us............

While I would argue against the only reason you clearly see the recruiting benefit to playing in Houston. So do other schools in the B12 among other conferences.

You have been cordial and I respect that. As of today, only Tech and OU have UH on the schedule.

As for the B12 you are incorrect we also have Kansas on the slate starting in 2019. That said UH does have other teams from the SEC, ACC, and the P12 at home as well this year and in the future.

Louisville, Vanderbilt, and Arizona

When it comes to the B12 we also had recent series Home/Away with Oklahoma State.

(07-16-2015 10:00 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 05:42 AM)RaiderRed Wrote:  The only reason we are playing UH is for recruiting. Nothing else. In 2009, we saw how UH acted after a 1 point win.

A one point win over an in-state Big XII school that was also a former conference rival. If Tech fans can't understand why our fanbase would see that as really big deal that's their problem.

Wasn't that also the week after we had just beaten the #5 team in the country on the road (Okie St)? I think it was a combination of the last second home win over an in state former SWC foe following the road win over a top 5 nationally ranked Oklahoma St win the week before. The Tech win was over a Leech coached Tech team that was coming off an 11-2 season (and would go on to be 9-4, beating Michigan St in the Alamo Bowl). Seems to me the students and fans had good reason to be extremely excited about the team at that point in the season.

(07-16-2015 09:25 AM)FUB Wrote:  I am sorry I don't mean to butt in but " poop debacle"?

The last time A&M came to Lubbock, the A&M AD claimed we bombed the A&M buses with crap.

As it turns out, he was a bold face liar and got called out on it. Fans across Texas love to spew this crap but stop short of explaining the real truth.

http://lubbockonline.com/crime-and-court...afW_PmmqJQ

Quote:A&M athletic director Bill Byrne posted a message on his Twitter account that their team buses were spray-painted and animal feces were spread inside and outside of the buses early Saturday morning.

Quote:■ ”The buses were not spray painted. Instead, washable shoe polish was used on the windows of one of the buses.” Blayne Beal, associate athletic director of communication, talked with the hotel manager, who told him the buses were cleaned within minutes by the bus drivers and a hotel staff member.

The manager said A&M officials never saw the buses, according to Beal.

The fish bait was put in one of the buses that had been left unlocked. Beal said he did not know what type of bait it was.

Quote:A Tech statement issued after Monday’s investigation included a pointed addition:

“It is no less wrong to condemn the entirety of our university, students and supporters by posting inaccurate information on the Internet for the purpose of sensationalizing the actions of one or a very few. We are disturbed by the careless use of social media to share these inaccuracies.”

Calls by The Avalanche-Journal to two members of the A&M sports information staff were not returned Monday.

A&M AD and fans like to make stories up and they have a history of this kind of crap. Aggie cadet pulled sword on SMU cheerleader, A&M media guide call Texas Tech classless clowns after the 2001 A&M game. That game was the famous goalpost game. An A&M exec claimed a Tech student hit him after the game but footage showed it to be an A&M fan. A&M never apologized for any of this.

Oh, google the Aggie poop thrower before the UT game and that will give you an idea of how crazy that fan base is.