(06-30-2015 02:54 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:45 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  UT will not follow "Aggy" to the SEC. They will join the ACC as ESPN will negotiate the fate of the Longhorn Network with itself.

If there is no room in the ACC for Oklahoma, they go B1G with Kansas.

The ACC and B1G don't like WVU's academics, which means they go SEC, who might be content to stop at 15 if the new CCG rules allow it. They probably grab Oklahoma State for new TV sets if they have to go to 16 members.

If the ACC has to go 16/18 to pull of the coup, it will take another Texas school and Iowa State (only AAU school remaining) to build out the western part of its footprint.

The Pac 12 takes out the trash with Texas Tech, TCU/Baylor, Kansas State, and one of Houston, Tulsa, or Rice rounds out the Pac 16 East.

The ACC could substitute Cincinnati for Iowa State, which would then free them up for the Pac 16 in place of a G5 school.

Rice, Tulane, Buffalo, Stony Brook and Cal-Davis are the last AAU schools right now not in a P5 conference.

PAC 12 will not take what you call trash. The big would be Oklahoma and Texas. If they can't have them? Then the others will be rejected, and they will take MWC schools to go to 16.

Not true there are many AAU schools not in a P5 conference. The whole Ivy League, Cal Tech, MIT, Chicago, St. Louis MO, etc.

(06-30-2015 06:03 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

UConn and Cincinnati are in a better position than they were in 2004.

How?

UConn was an independent just moving up to FBS. Cincinnati was in CUSA.

(06-30-2015 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 06:03 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

UConn and Cincinnati are in a better position than they were in 2004.

How?

UConn was an independent just moving up to FBS. Cincinnati was in CUSA.

In 2004 UConn played in the Big East alongside regional rivals Pitt, WV, Temple, Cuse, Rutgers and an exiting Boston College as part of a BCS conference.

I can probably pick any year from 1970 to now and say the exact opposite regarding UConn. They have never been in a worse position.

(06-30-2015 07:30 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:55 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

Based off what exactly?
Has any conference even named them as a top candidate? Don't' meet B1G academic requirements or have a blue blood FB program- Sorry that's a no go. ACC has already passed on UConn several times with no reason to believe they are interested in another basketball brand with weak football. It's a longshot at best in the Big 12. I don't see reason to think they are an automatic for the next spot. If any school should expect an invite that it's Cinci IMO as they fit the BIg 12 and ACC better.

My recollection is that UConn was next in line if Syracuse or Pitt had turned the ACC down and that they were the presumptive favorite to get Louisville's slot when Maryland went to the B1G. So they've been the bridesmaid a couple of times, it doesn't mean conferences are not interested. They are the state flagship in the largest state without a P5 school, have excellent academics, have an incredible fan base, and would give additional presence in the NYC market to any conference that added them.

I just don't see it. The last thing the ACC is going to do right now is add another weak FB brand. FSU and Clemson will block that IMO because it hurts their SOS even more. And beyond the ACC it's a longshot at best since they don't meed B1G requirements and are not a fit for the Big 12.

UConn does not bring any TV markets for Football. We just looked at a TV ratings game with Memphis that got a 0.0 rating. The whole NY/Boston market claims do not apply to UConn football. There are millions of people there but they DO NOT care about UConn football. Attendance and TV rantings confirm this. I have no idea why UConn fans claim this but it is absolutely not based on any facts.

(06-30-2015 09:06 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 06:03 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

UConn and Cincinnati are in a better position than they were in 2004.

How?

UConn was an independent just moving up to FBS. Cincinnati was in CUSA.

In 2004 UConn played in the Big East alongside regional rivals Pitt, WV, Temple, Cuse, Rutgers and an exiting Boston College as part of a BCS conference.

I can probably pick any year from 1970 to now and say the exact opposite regarding UConn. They have never been in a worse position.

Playing FCS ball in the Yankee league up until 1990 is a much worse position than AAC in 2015 for UConn. Not sure how you could claim otherwise.

(06-29-2015 07:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:07 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  USA Today George Schroeder, Bruce Feldman, and Stewart Mandel discuss Boren and top candidates for B12 expansion. The Reader's Digest version is they name UC, BYU, UCF, and Memphis as top candidates.


http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ast-062615

All will be in the B12....after Texoma 4 bolt


of course the contract will be redone and be worth half, but the AAC teams and BYU will win

I can certainly see Oklahoma and Texas bolting, but I'm not too sure about Okie St and TTech. Supposing all 4 bolt, why would BYU sign over long term rights to the conference? We would be making the same money as an independent without the freedom, and what happens if Texas goes independent and we have a November home-home agreement?

The Big East/ACC already found this out. They wanted BYU to join after everybody left, and BYU declined. What is the motivation for BYU to join a Big 12 without the Texoma 4, and with other teams likely leaving for the first good offer?

(06-30-2015 09:06 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 06:03 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

UConn and Cincinnati are in a better position than they were in 2004.

How?

UConn was an independent just moving up to FBS. Cincinnati was in CUSA.

In 2004 UConn played in the Big East alongside regional rivals Pitt, WV, Temple, Cuse, Rutgers and an exiting Boston College as part of a BCS conference.

I can probably pick any year from 1970 to now and say the exact opposite regarding UConn. They have never been in a worse position.

Alright 2003.

UConn basketball seems to be doing just fine. UConn football has historically been a bad FCS team. UConn doesn't really have grounds to complain. They were nobody in football. There weren't much in the BE. They are in a better position than they were 15 years ago.

Houston, however, was a major in the 60s before getting into the SWC and then they were frequently ranked in the 70s-90s in the SWC. They had a lot more basketball success than UConn up through the 80s.

if Texas wants to do the football independent thing with the ACC, they should consider making a Big 12-ACC merger part of the deal.

football could split into 3 divisions

west-8 teams (non-football 9)
Ok, Ok St, TT, TCU, Baylor, Kan, KSU, ISU (Tex non-football)

south-8 teams
FL St, Mia, GT, Clem, UNC, NCSU, Duke, Wake

north-7 teams (non-football 8)
BC, Cuse, Pitt, Va, VT, Lou, WV (ND non-football)

(06-30-2015 08:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 06:03 AM)Hank Schrader Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

UConn and Cincinnati are in a better position than they were in 2004.

How?

UConn was an independent just moving up to FBS. Cincinnati was in CUSA.

And for all intents and purposes, we're back in CUSA v. 1.1 (after the departure of the non-FB schools) again.

(06-30-2015 09:27 AM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:13 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:07 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  USA Today George Schroeder, Bruce Feldman, and Stewart Mandel discuss Boren and top candidates for B12 expansion. The Reader's Digest version is they name UC, BYU, UCF, and Memphis as top candidates.


http://www.foxsports.com/college-footbal...ast-062615

All will be in the B12....after Texoma 4 bolt


of course the contract will be redone and be worth half, but the AAC teams and BYU will win

I can certainly see Oklahoma and Texas bolting, but I'm not too sure about Okie St and TTech. Supposing all 4 bolt, why would BYU sign over long term rights to the conference? We would be making the same money as an independent without the freedom, and what happens if Texas goes independent and we have a November home-home agreement?

The Big East/ACC already found this out. They wanted BYU to join after everybody left, and BYU declined. What is the motivation for BYU to join a Big 12 without the Texoma 4, and with other teams likely leaving for the first good offer?

BYU ***should*** have joined the B12 in 2012. But they wanted to try the independent, "We are the Mormon Notre Dame," we can keep all the money route. I think they have regretted it.

(06-30-2015 12:32 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 09:27 AM)HawkeyeCoug Wrote:  I can certainly see Oklahoma and Texas bolting, but I'm not too sure about Okie St and TTech. Supposing all 4 bolt, why would BYU sign over long term rights to the conference? We would be making the same money as an independent without the freedom, and what happens if Texas goes independent and we have a November home-home agreement?

The Big East/ACC already found this out. They wanted BYU to join after everybody left, and BYU declined. What is the motivation for BYU to join a Big 12 without the Texoma 4, and with other teams likely leaving for the first good offer?

BYU ***should*** have joined the B12 in 2012. But they wanted to try the independent, "We are the Mormon Notre Dame," we can keep all the money route. I think they have regretted it.

As a BYU fan, I certainly agree we should have joined. However, I'm not sure exactly how things really went down, and why TCU was picked instead. Some sources say BYU wanted more exposure, some that Sunday play got in the way, some that the BYU leadership was worried the Big 12 was breaking up. We do know that BYU was not formally invited, and there were some discussions that took place. If BYU messed up the negotiations and it became known through independently verifiable means, I think our negotiators would have to run for their lives.

My plan at the time (and you can look at archives on this board if you want) was for BYU, Louisville, and Pitt to join, making a 12 team conference. Doing something proactive like that would have been great for the conference, and the action may have kept Missouri from wandering and landed VTech in the SEC. We will never know.

(06-30-2015 07:30 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:55 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

Based off what exactly?
Has any conference even named them as a top candidate? Don't' meet B1G academic requirements or have a blue blood FB program- Sorry that's a no go. ACC has already passed on UConn several times with no reason to believe they are interested in another basketball brand with weak football. It's a longshot at best in the Big 12. I don't see reason to think they are an automatic for the next spot. If any school should expect an invite that it's Cinci IMO as they fit the BIg 12 and ACC better.

My recollection is that UConn was next in line if Syracuse or Pitt had turned the ACC down and that they were the presumptive favorite to get Louisville's slot when Maryland went to the B1G. So they've been the bridesmaid a couple of times, it doesn't mean conferences are not interested. They are the state flagship in the largest state without a P5 school, have excellent academics, have an incredible fan base, and would give additional presence in the NYC market to any conference that added them.

If ACC loses schools? UCF, Cincinnati, NAVY, Temple, U. Conn. and ARMY would be more attractive than any Big 12 rejects. There is way too much open country between Texas and the east coast.

(06-30-2015 07:41 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:54 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 08:45 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  UT will not follow "Aggy" to the SEC. They will join the ACC as ESPN will negotiate the fate of the Longhorn Network with itself.

If there is no room in the ACC for Oklahoma, they go B1G with Kansas.

The ACC and B1G don't like WVU's academics, which means they go SEC, who might be content to stop at 15 if the new CCG rules allow it. They probably grab Oklahoma State for new TV sets if they have to go to 16 members.

If the ACC has to go 16/18 to pull of the coup, it will take another Texas school and Iowa State (only AAU school remaining) to build out the western part of its footprint.

The Pac 12 takes out the trash with Texas Tech, TCU/Baylor, Kansas State, and one of Houston, Tulsa, or Rice rounds out the Pac 16 East.

The ACC could substitute Cincinnati for Iowa State, which would then free them up for the Pac 16 in place of a G5 school.

Rice, Tulane, Buffalo, Stony Brook and Cal-Davis are the last AAU schools right now not in a P5 conference.

PAC 12 will not take what you call trash. The big would be Oklahoma and Texas. If they can't have them? Then the others will be rejected, and they will take MWC schools to go to 16.

Not true there are many AAU schools not in a P5 conference. The whole Ivy League, Cal Tech, MIT, Chicago, St. Louis MO, etc.

I did not count the Ivys because they do not want anything to do with the greed. The others are in D3, and won't be able to be able to join a P5 conference.

(06-30-2015 02:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 07:30 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:55 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

Based off what exactly?
Has any conference even named them as a top candidate? Don't' meet B1G academic requirements or have a blue blood FB program- Sorry that's a no go. ACC has already passed on UConn several times with no reason to believe they are interested in another basketball brand with weak football. It's a longshot at best in the Big 12. I don't see reason to think they are an automatic for the next spot. If any school should expect an invite that it's Cinci IMO as they fit the BIg 12 and ACC better.

My recollection is that UConn was next in line if Syracuse or Pitt had turned the ACC down and that they were the presumptive favorite to get Louisville's slot when Maryland went to the B1G. So they've been the bridesmaid a couple of times, it doesn't mean conferences are not interested. They are the state flagship in the largest state without a P5 school, have excellent academics, have an incredible fan base, and would give additional presence in the NYC market to any conference that added them.

If ACC loses schools? UCF, Cincinnati, NAVY, Temple, U. Conn. and ARMY would be more attractive than any Big 12 rejects. There is way too much open country between Texas and the east coast.

LOL. The butthurt is strong with this one.

FSU and Clemson will surely bolt if the ACC adds another weak FB brand to further hurt their chances to get in the playoff. As it is they need to start the season in the top 10, go undefeated with OkState, Notre Dame,and Florida in OOC play, win the ACC CCG, and be lucky to get the #4 spot ahead of a 1 loss bible school from the Big 12 who did not go undefeated, did no win their conference, and best OOC game was Minnesota.

You do realize that essentially most ACC teams literally have no chance of getting in the playoff even if they go undefeated since most don't play a tough OOC schedule right?

Reality is a real downer for folks like you. Reality is that any of the Big 12 leftovers are more attractive than adding AAC schools.

Why do fans like yourself get all butthurt? Seriously. The whole "he said something true about my school/conference so I'm going to make up some ridiculous statement about how worthless all those schools are to get back at him" mentality is quite childish.

Do you really think FSU wants to play against Temple/Navy or TCU/Baylor?

The sneaky bump you hear in the night...ECU comin-atcha B12!

(06-30-2015 02:46 PM)VirginiaPirate Wrote:  The sneaky bump you hear in the night...ECU comin-atcha B12!

Any truth to the rumor that ECU was going to rebrand as Carolina Tech?

(06-30-2015 02:40 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 07:30 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:55 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

Based off what exactly?
Has any conference even named them as a top candidate? Don't' meet B1G academic requirements or have a blue blood FB program- Sorry that's a no go. ACC has already passed on UConn several times with no reason to believe they are interested in another basketball brand with weak football. It's a longshot at best in the Big 12. I don't see reason to think they are an automatic for the next spot. If any school should expect an invite that it's Cinci IMO as they fit the BIg 12 and ACC better.

My recollection is that UConn was next in line if Syracuse or Pitt had turned the ACC down and that they were the presumptive favorite to get Louisville's slot when Maryland went to the B1G. So they've been the bridesmaid a couple of times, it doesn't mean conferences are not interested. They are the state flagship in the largest state without a P5 school, have excellent academics, have an incredible fan base, and would give additional presence in the NYC market to any conference that added them.

If ACC loses schools? UCF, Cincinnati, NAVY, Temple, U. Conn. and ARMY would be more attractive than any Big 12 rejects. There is way too much open country between Texas and the east coast.

LOL. The butthurt is strong with this one.

FSU and Clemson will surely bolt if the ACC adds another weak FB brand to further hurt their chances to get in the playoff. As it is they need to start the season in the top 10, go undefeated with OkState, Notre Dame,and Florida in OOC play, win the ACC CCG, and be lucky to get the #4 spot ahead of a 1 loss bible school from the Big 12 who did not go undefeated, did no win their conference, and best OOC game was Minnesota.

[/b]You do realize that essentially most ACC teams literally have no chance of getting in the playoff even if they go undefeated since most don't play a tough OOC schedule right?

Reality is a real downer for folks like you. Reality is that any of the Big 12 leftovers are more attractive than adding AAC schools.

Why do fans like yourself get all butthurt? Seriously. The whole "he said something true about my school/conference so I'm going to make up some ridiculous statement about how worthless all those schools are to get back at him" mentality is quite childish.

Do you really think FSU wants to play against Temple/Navy or TCU/Baylor?

Says the dude whose conference got left out of the playoffs in year one, while the ACC team made the playoffs.

(06-29-2015 07:07 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  The Reader's Digest version is they name UC, BYU, UCF, and Memphis as top candidates.

All plausible choices, *If* the Big <XII chose to expand. Which I don't think will happen in the next 5-6 years, at any rate.

I've said before that BYU is far and away the most obvious pick for #11. If they were to be somehow passed-over in favor of a program in the AAC, or the Mountain, or whatever, that would be an absolutely devastating blow to BYU's image/prestige.

By the way, do people still know what "the Reader's Digest version" means? Does that magazine even exist anymore?

(06-30-2015 02:40 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 02:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 07:30 AM)orangefan Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:55 PM)Okielite Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:37 PM)Shox Wrote:  The Big 12 brass does not want any "commuter" schools in the conference which is the reason UC and UL are not in it today. It is arrogance at its finest. OU and KU will go to the B1G, while UT and Tech head west. At that point Memphis, UC, Houston USF, and UCF will get the call and we will start the death cycle once again. Within a few years the SEC will want more markets and if it can't poach the ACC, that leaves OSU, KSU, and WVU as the only worthy expansion candidates and we will basically be left with CUSA 8.0 as they all try to continue and win the lottery. It is funny but with all the changes we have had, only 3 schools have joined the P5 (Louisville, TCU, and Utah while only 2 or maybe 3 schools have actually worsened their position (UC, UCONN and perhaps BYU.) UCONN being the one with the largest grievance but also best hope to join the P5.

Based off what exactly?
Has any conference even named them as a top candidate? Don't' meet B1G academic requirements or have a blue blood FB program- Sorry that's a no go. ACC has already passed on UConn several times with no reason to believe they are interested in another basketball brand with weak football. It's a longshot at best in the Big 12. I don't see reason to think they are an automatic for the next spot. If any school should expect an invite that it's Cinci IMO as they fit the BIg 12 and ACC better.

My recollection is that UConn was next in line if Syracuse or Pitt had turned the ACC down and that they were the presumptive favorite to get Louisville's slot when Maryland went to the B1G. So they've been the bridesmaid a couple of times, it doesn't mean conferences are not interested. They are the state flagship in the largest state without a P5 school, have excellent academics, have an incredible fan base, and would give additional presence in the NYC market to any conference that added them.

If ACC loses schools? UCF, Cincinnati, NAVY, Temple, U. Conn. and ARMY would be more attractive than any Big 12 rejects. There is way too much open country between Texas and the east coast.

LOL. The butthurt is strong with this one.

FSU and Clemson will surely bolt if the ACC adds another weak FB brand to further hurt their chances to get in the playoff. As it is they need to start the season in the top 10, go undefeated with OkState, Notre Dame,and Florida in OOC play, win the ACC CCG, and be lucky to get the #4 spot ahead of a 1 loss bible school from the Big 12 who did not go undefeated, did no win their conference, and best OOC game was Minnesota.

You do realize that essentially most ACC teams literally have no chance of getting in the playoff even if they go undefeated since most don't play a tough OOC schedule right?

Reality is a real downer for folks like you. Reality is that any of the Big 12 leftovers are more attractive than adding AAC schools.

Why do fans like yourself get all butthurt? Seriously. The whole "he said something true about my school/conference so I'm going to make up some ridiculous statement about how worthless all those schools are to get back at him" mentality is quite childish.

Do you really think FSU wants to play against Temple/Navy or TCU/Baylor?

Why would he be butthurt, he is a fan of Ark. Tech.? Is that what we do now, if someone posts something we don't agree with we label them butthurt?

(06-30-2015 04:04 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 07:07 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  The Reader's Digest version is they name UC, BYU, UCF, and Memphis as top candidates.

All plausible choices, *If* the Big <XII chose to expand. Which I don't think will happen in the next 5-6 years, at any rate.

I've said before that BYU is far and away the most obvious pick for #11. If they were to be somehow passed-over in favor of a program in the AAC, or the Mountain, or whatever, that would be an absolutely devastating blow to BYU's image/prestige.

By the way, do people still know what "the Reader's Digest version" means? Does that magazine even exist anymore?

If BYU moves their whole university and football stadium closer to West Virginia? Yes, they will be accepted, but they are west coast and they are out of the expansion talks unless ACC takes West Virginia, Cincinnati, UCF, USF, NAVY and East Carolina.