Why, if Watts killed football on his own, does the UA Board have to vote to reinstate?

(05-29-2015 01:50 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Why, if Watts killed football on his own, does the UA Board have to vote to reinstate?

Because he didn't' make the decision to kill on his own. Anyone who believes that is naïve.

(05-29-2015 01:50 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Why, if Watts killed football on his own, does the UA Board have to vote to reinstate?

Nobody seems to know that.

Someone or everyone involved is lying. Watts Saud the decision was all his. Board says they are prohibited from daily involvement in Atletics, although board member Finis St. John IV personally saw to it to block a $1million GIFT to place artificial turf on an already dangerous & poor draining practice field last Spring.

(05-29-2015 12:51 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 12:13 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:41 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Kurre's an idiot. He's the "designated UAB guy", his morning show partners went to bammer and Auburn. He may be the UAB guy, but when he tries to sing the fight song he's good for two lines and la la la's it after that.

That said, I think we're going to make it. You guys won't get rid of us that easily. I look forward to more crying after we win the Conference hoops tourney again this season.

I think we're going to have well in excess of $25m on the table, and if the BoT turns that down all hell is going to break loose.

About that 25 million how is that going to affect donations 2,3,4 yeas from now? In my experience donations falls off to really low levels (well below avg)in the following years after a drive like this. Especially since most likely UAB will be going through at least a couple years of losing in football. The other side to that is if your basketball makes a run in those years it can offset it.

Usually, not always, but usually, after fans are called on to reach in their pockets (as deep as they can) it hurts the following years.

The pledges were for 5 years. So in year six, we should have C-USA level facilities, our FB program will be back to full strength and the money committed to basketball will begin to payoff. If we come back, in 5 years fundraising will be a whole lot easier.

Remember, the president attempted to make the fundraising harder for football, by committing a boat load of money for men's basketball. $1M for coach, upgrades to facilities, and increased recruiting budget. If FB now comes back we will have a hoops programs that's (equipped) to perennially be in the NCAA tournament and a FB program that is competing off the field as hard as it did on.

So this is a 5 year donation and that's what I'm getting at....

UAB had donations of $3,205,602 for 2014 so over the next 5 years how much will this eat into that 3+ million? I know you don't have the answer to that no one does. But again in my experience in donation drives...yearly donations drop over the life span of the drive. So once the average fans sits down a year from now and UAB football is still there....

then the fan starts looking at his or her own financial problems and it's very easy to say...I gave already. There's no question a yearly drop will happen the question will be how much. So while the 25 million is great someone looking at it from a numbers point of view and a impact point of view doesn't see it at that number. There's other things that plays into it.

I know as a fan...the only goal for UAB fans is to get football back and let others worry about the money problems when they come up. But someone is asking these same questions and I think if UAB's programs are not brought back that's going to be a part of it.

Hope I'm wrong

(05-29-2015 02:01 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 12:51 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 12:13 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 11:41 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Kurre's an idiot. He's the "designated UAB guy", his morning show partners went to bammer and Auburn. He may be the UAB guy, but when he tries to sing the fight song he's good for two lines and la la la's it after that.

That said, I think we're going to make it. You guys won't get rid of us that easily. I look forward to more crying after we win the Conference hoops tourney again this season.

I think we're going to have well in excess of $25m on the table, and if the BoT turns that down all hell is going to break loose.

About that 25 million how is that going to affect donations 2,3,4 yeas from now? In my experience donations falls off to really low levels (well below avg)in the following years after a drive like this. Especially since most likely UAB will be going through at least a couple years of losing in football. The other side to that is if your basketball makes a run in those years it can offset it.

Usually, not always, but usually, after fans are called on to reach in their pockets (as deep as they can) it hurts the following years.

The pledges were for 5 years. So in year six, we should have C-USA level facilities, our FB program will be back to full strength and the money committed to basketball will begin to payoff. If we come back, in 5 years fundraising will be a whole lot easier.

Remember, the president attempted to make the fundraising harder for football, by committing a boat load of money for men's basketball. $1M for coach, upgrades to facilities, and increased recruiting budget. If FB now comes back we will have a hoops programs that's (equipped) to perennially be in the NCAA tournament and a FB program that is competing off the field as hard as it did on.

So this is a 5 year donation and that's what I'm getting at....

UAB had donations of $3,205,602 for 2014 so over the next 5 years how much will this eat into that 3+ million? I know you don't have the answer to that no one does. But again in my experience in donation drives...yearly donations drop over the life span of the drive. So once the average fans sits down a year from now and UAB football is still there....

then the fan starts looking at his or her own financial problems and it's very easy to say...I gave already. There's no question a yearly drop will happen the question will be how much. So while the 25 million is great someone looking at it from a numbers point of view and a impact point of view doesn't see it at that number. There's other things that plays into it.

I know as a fan...the only goal for UAB fans is to get football back and let others worry about the money problems when they come up. But someone is asking these same questions and I think if UAB's programs are not brought back that's going to be a part of it.

Hope I'm wrong

How much are donations going to drop if there is no football at all? Much better question to ask. I would also wager that more fundraising will be done if football is reinstated so it won't have that much of an effect. Season ticket sales will also rise for at least the first couple of years, regardless of record. From then on, who knows?

(05-29-2015 09:09 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Fantastic! Not only do we get to keep UAB in conference, but the Sun Belt and FCS schools that want to join CUSA can stop their beauty pageant for a while.

I'm for bringing it back because of the principles involved.
One it was a dirty deal
Two I'd like a dial down from the FCS wanting in the Sun Belt.

I would have took a totally different stance on this fight....

bowling and rifle brings in no revenue at all but I'm sure both combine eats up 100s of thousand a year. Drop them. But football is a different story it brings in money to offset cost. So if a cut had to be made you cut the non-revenue sports and then see how much money is needed.

Good Luck...no news today will be good new.

Bowling and rifle offset scholarships for title 9

(05-29-2015 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  bowling and rifle brings in no revenue at all but I'm sure both combine eats up 100s of thousand a year. Drop them.

Not just no. Hell no. Ray Watts dropped them by text message. I was with them when they got the news. That little pumpkinheaded bastard needs to burn in hell for what he did to them.

And that's not a casual insult. I want Ray Watts to suffer eternal damnation as described by Dante Alighieri, anally raped by the flaming barbed penii of demons until the heat death of the universe.

We are bringing back football, bowling AND rifle.

(05-29-2015 02:58 PM)58-56 Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  bowling and rifle brings in no revenue at all but I'm sure both combine eats up 100s of thousand a year. Drop them.

Not just no. Hell no. Ray Watts dropped them by text message. I was with them when they got the news. That little pumpkinheaded bastard needs to burn in hell for what he did to them.

And that's not a casual insult. I want Ray Watts to suffer eternal damnation as described by Dante Alighieri, anally raped by the flaming barbed penii of demons until the heat death of the universe.

We are bringing back football, bowling AND rifle.

how about this for Watts?

would be impressive if UAB faithful are successful in bringing football back. It won't be over until the fat man sings, however. Certainly has united your fans, alum and city like few other things could have. Hope they keep that passion and show up at games. Good luck.

(05-29-2015 04:00 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  would be impressive if UAB faithful are successful in bringing football back. It won't be over until the fat man sings, however. Certainly has united your fans, alum and city like few other things could have. Hope they keep that passion and show up at games. Good luck.

Showing up at the games isn't the issue. Investing in the program has been the issue. Don't ask fans to be cool with your program playing in a oversize chitbucket and no support from your BOT and President.

(05-29-2015 04:19 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 04:00 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  would be impressive if UAB faithful are successful in bringing football back. It won't be over until the fat man sings, however. Certainly has united your fans, alum and city like few other things could have. Hope they keep that passion and show up at games. Good luck.

Showing up at the games isn't the issue. Investing in the program has been the issue. Don't ask fans to be cool with your program playing in a oversize chitbucket and no support from your BOT and President.

We did it for decades. But recently things have been slowly getting better.

(05-29-2015 09:53 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  I hope they come back. But it annoys me they'll be set back years because of the original decision. Then again, with all the new donations and a reinvigorated fanbase, it could mean a more committed athletic department and fanbase with an on campus stadium and other needed things.

This is the same way I feel. And we wasted a ton of money to take the year off if it comes back.

The only sure way to fix the problem for UAB and all other G5s that this kind of thing may happen to is for something bad to happen to UA as a result of the BOT decisions. Eye for an Eye comes to mind. But nobody has the clout for that to occur unless some politicians with heuvos get pissed enough.

I really hope that UAB gets football back for their benefit and all the G5s this could affect.

(05-29-2015 02:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  I would have took a totally different stance on this fight....

bowling and rifle brings in no revenue at all but I'm sure both combine eats up 100s of thousand a year. Drop them. But football is a different story it brings in money to offset cost. So if a cut had to be made you cut the non-revenue sports and then see how much money is needed.

Good Luck...no news today will be good new.

Oddly enough, the Bowling team showed a $75,000 profit in 2013-14. Mainly due to the fact that 100% of equipment,uniforms, travel etc were covered by donations from bowling centric corporatations. The only expense not covered were the ladies actual scholarship costs according to a member of the program.

Watts is just washing his hands of this ala Pontius Pilate. Why would UAT go this far only to reverse it? Watts knows he's toast either way. No way UAT votes yes.

(05-29-2015 06:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Watts is just washing his hands of this ala Pontius Pilate. Why would UAT go this far only to reverse it? Watts knows he's toast either way. No way UAT votes yes.

The UA Board of Trustees are currently under more scrutiny than ever before, and one helluva lot more than they like. It's not beyond imagination that they're throwing a bone to get that bright light out of their face.

(05-29-2015 12:52 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  I hope everything works out well for UAB. But I hate to say it unless you have pics of a naked Paul Bryant Jr with a goat or pig I don't see how this gets by the UAT BOT.

Paul, Jr., would survive a goat or pig scandal. As they used to say of Edwin Edwards, it'll have to be either a dead girl or a live boy.

(05-29-2015 06:30 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-29-2015 06:18 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Watts is just washing his hands of this ala Pontius Pilate. Why would UAT go this far only to reverse it? Watts knows he's toast either way. No way UAT votes yes.

The UA Board of Trustees are currently under more scrutiny than ever before, and one helluva lot more than they like. It's not beyond imagination that they're throwing a bone to get that bright light out of their face.

If the UAT have a bigger agenda for UAB and that be turning UAB into a doctorial campus and basically stealing all of UABs undergrad programs then this will go a lot further than just football. Football might just be the 1st step in stripping UAB of all of their athletics. This may not be the case but in some of the articles that say this the undertone sent UABs way seems grim for UAB in general.