(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 10:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I do like the implication that hard work has nothing to do with it.

Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Well, if you define rich soley in monetary terms then I'd be inclined to agree. Lots of folks do not.

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Like I said, it takes much more than that.

I work hard and I'll probably never be rich. Because while I wouldn't mind being rich, I don't want to put forth THAT much effort. It's not that important to me. Some people DO put forth that much effort. Have great ideas. Are remarkably intelligent. Many EARN IT.

We are not granted equal outcomes in this country. People are not all equal. Some people are smarter, more cunning, and more driven. Those people generally succeed and make a lot of money.

I'm content with being middle class. That's probably where I'll always be. Difference is, I don't have this festering envy of the rich that lies deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties like the leftists do.

life isn't fair, get a helmet

(05-14-2015 01:09 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Like I said, it takes much more than that.

I work hard and I'll probably never be rich. Because while I wouldn't mind being rich, I don't want to put forth THAT much effort. It's not that important to me. Some people DO put forth that much effort. Have great ideas. Are remarkably intelligent. Many EARN IT.

We are not granted equal outcomes in this country. People are not all equal. Some people are smarter, more cunning, and more driven. Those people generally succeed and make a lot of money.

I'm content with being middle class. That's probably where I'll always be. Difference is, I don't have this festering envy of the rich that lies deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties like the leftists do.

I am also content with being middle class. I am truly blessed. I have nothing against rich people. In fact, I think the majority of them are blessed.

I'm a firm believer that rich people are rich because they have been given a huge repsonsibility. It's just disappointing that some do not see it that way and feel instead that they are rich because of something that they themselves did.

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

So what? Hard work, alone, doesn't guarantee anything.

If your Dad worked his ever loving asss off, all day, in the sweltering heat of the day, 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, for 35 years digging a big hole in your back yard, then filling it in, then digging it out again, and filling it in, and digging it out, then...

I think we'd all agree that is hard work, too. So what? What's that worth to someone else?

Exactly.

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's just disappointing that some do not see it that way and feel instead that they are rich because of something that they themselves did.

This should be printed out, framed, and hung on the Liberal Hall of Fame quotes.

You really need to do some research. See all the rags to riches stories. Achievement. Open your eyes.

It's not how hard you work, but what value you produce with that work. Work smart is more important than work hard. And a large part of working smart is not wasting time on pursuits that ultimately produce little or no value.

(05-14-2015 01:19 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's just disappointing that some do not see it that way and feel instead that they are rich because of something that they themselves did.

This should be printed out, framed, and hung on the Liberal Hall of Fame quotes.

You really need to do some research. See all the rags to riches stories. Achievement. Open your eyes.

Don't give him too much credit, its just more senseless trolling on his part.

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:09 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Like I said, it takes much more than that.

I work hard and I'll probably never be rich. Because while I wouldn't mind being rich, I don't want to put forth THAT much effort. It's not that important to me. Some people DO put forth that much effort. Have great ideas. Are remarkably intelligent. Many EARN IT.

We are not granted equal outcomes in this country. People are not all equal. Some people are smarter, more cunning, and more driven. Those people generally succeed and make a lot of money.

I'm content with being middle class. That's probably where I'll always be. Difference is, I don't have this festering envy of the rich that lies deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties like the leftists do.

I'm a firm believer that rich people are rich because they have been given a huge repsonsibility.

What does that mean?

(05-14-2015 01:19 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's just disappointing that some do not see it that way and feel instead that they are rich because of something that they themselves did.

This should be printed out, framed, and hung on the Liberal Hall of Fame quotes.

You really need to do some research. See all the rags to riches stories. Achievement. Open your eyes.

Right next to "You didn't build that, somebody else did."

(05-14-2015 01:25 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:09 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:03 PM)VA49er Wrote:  I'd imagine one led to the the other. At some point, it just become petty to complain about it.

I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Like I said, it takes much more than that.

I work hard and I'll probably never be rich. Because while I wouldn't mind being rich, I don't want to put forth THAT much effort. It's not that important to me. Some people DO put forth that much effort. Have great ideas. Are remarkably intelligent. Many EARN IT.

We are not granted equal outcomes in this country. People are not all equal. Some people are smarter, more cunning, and more driven. Those people generally succeed and make a lot of money.

I'm content with being middle class. That's probably where I'll always be. Difference is, I don't have this festering envy of the rich that lies deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties like the leftists do.

I'm a firm believer that rich people are rich because they have been given a huge repsonsibility.

What does that mean?

In other words, blessed by God. With talent, brains, family,motivation, what ever it is that made them rich. It is because of God's grace.

Unless of course the sold their soul to the devil.

lol. as other people have pointed out, working hard doesn't get you more money. I can "work hard" at mcdonalds cleaning the place. I could get on my hands and knees and scrub every inch of that floor. Back breaking work. Doesn't mean I am going to get rich doing that.... and nor should I.

(05-14-2015 12:25 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 10:41 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I do like the implication that hard work has nothing to do with it.

Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

Go research it and let me know what you find.

Koch Brothers are Exhibit A.

(05-14-2015 01:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:25 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:09 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 01:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm not complaining. I'm simply pointing out the obvious.

I'm willing to bet 90% of us in here would say our parents worked hard their entire lives and never became rich.

Like I said, it takes much more than that.

I work hard and I'll probably never be rich. Because while I wouldn't mind being rich, I don't want to put forth THAT much effort. It's not that important to me. Some people DO put forth that much effort. Have great ideas. Are remarkably intelligent. Many EARN IT.

We are not granted equal outcomes in this country. People are not all equal. Some people are smarter, more cunning, and more driven. Those people generally succeed and make a lot of money.

I'm content with being middle class. That's probably where I'll always be. Difference is, I don't have this festering envy of the rich that lies deep down in places they don't like to talk about at parties like the leftists do.

I'm a firm believer that rich people are rich because they have been given a huge repsonsibility.

What does that mean?

In other words, blessed by God. With talent, brains, family,motivation, what ever it is that made them rich. It is because of God's grace.

Unless of course the sold their soul to the devil.

Ah, getting all spiritual up in here. Lots of rich people are charitable, but they don't have to be.

(05-14-2015 01:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:25 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

Go research it and let me know what you find.

Koch Brothers are Exhibit A.

Bill Gates is another..


Oh.... wait..... nvmd.

Quote:It's just disappointing that some .... feel ... that they are rich because of something that they themselves did.

I'd be happy to disappoint you further, if you could provide a list of what disappoints you most.

(05-14-2015 12:34 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:25 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

Go research it and let me know what you find.

I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

Because it takes much more than hard work. You have to truly want to make a lot of money. You need to be smarter than everyone else. You need to have ideas.

No, not everyone is equal. Some people are smarter than others. When you realize this, you'll begin to understand the concept of achievement.

I tried to come up with a different way of saying this but I think you stated it perfectly. People that only know how to physically hard are a dime a dozen.

(05-14-2015 01:32 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:25 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:20 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Hard work doesn't make you rich. There are plenty of lazy people who get rich by shear luck and there are plenty of hard working people that never become rich.

There are plenty of people who get rich by working hard.

I'm sure there is.

How many people in this country however are rich because they were born rich and how many are rich because they worked hard?

Go research it and let me know what you find.

Koch Brothers are Exhibit A.

Nah. I'd put the entire Kennedy clan as exhibit A. Been at it a lot longer.

(05-14-2015 12:34 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-14-2015 12:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sure even you would agree that the vast majority of hard workers never get rich.

Hard work is no guarantee of anything.

The guy who works harder and smarter wins.

Hard work itself is no guarantee of productivity, either. It takes innovation, production, and value in addition to dedication and hard work in order to really become rich. Someone who is actually rich could probably add more insight here, though...

I'd also say that "rich" is also a relative term. The left has done a good job of distorting it to perpetuate class warfare.