(03-03-2015 12:59 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 07:45 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Hillary was required to keep her e-mails on a government account, but she refused to set up an account. She exclusively used her personal e-mail account for government business. This allowed her to maintain complete control over what e-mails were kept. It also violated federal law. A government archivist said this was unprecedented. This is so Clintonian.

Contrast this with Jeb Bush who just released every e-mail he had as governor of Florida. That's all you need to know to contrast typical Bush and Clinton behavior.

Maybe someone can link the NY Times article.

So what did they convict her of?

(03-03-2015 12:58 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 12:23 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  That is dumb. Unless there is something to hide, use the e-mails you are supposed to. No excuse!!

Wanna bet the serfs in the Democratic party don't care one iota? For example, it wouldn't cause you to vote for whomever the Republican was instead of her, would it?

See, she could be filmed selling crack on a street corner and it wouldn't change the vote.

First off, I am not voting for her. I know who I am going to vote for in the Democratic primary already and his name is Bernie Sanders. Second, both parties do the same thing of passing off all of these questionable acts and sweeping them under the rug. If it's not one thing, it's something else. We need responsible and strong leadership, someone unwilling to back down from a fight and stand up for American values... Sanders is that for me. If he doesn't run, I don't know what I'll do just yet.

(03-03-2015 08:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:44 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:38 AM)Smaug Wrote:  It doesn't matter.

She's the left's demigod, and all questions of legality, morality, or competence are irrelevant.

You finally understand, now get in line.

So tell me, fizzy. What in her background tells you she'll be a good president?

I always figured the cult of personality required someone with a personality.

Bill

(03-03-2015 09:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:11 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:06 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:44 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
You finally understand, now get in line.

So tell me, fizzy. What in her background tells you she'll be a good president?

I always figured the cult of personality required someone with a personality.

Breaking the next great barrier - She has female parts - she has a "D" next to her name on the ballot. This is ALL that matters. Nothing else does. But you already knew that.

It's sad that the leftists are so shallow.

Evidently they don't learn from past mistakes.

Unemployment below 6%, Dow Jones above 18,000, Nasdaq above 5000. I say we do.

(03-03-2015 01:43 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 12:58 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 12:23 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  That is dumb. Unless there is something to hide, use the e-mails you are supposed to. No excuse!!

Wanna bet the serfs in the Democratic party don't care one iota? For example, it wouldn't cause you to vote for whomever the Republican was instead of her, would it?

See, she could be filmed selling crack on a street corner and it wouldn't change the vote.

First off, I am not voting for her. I know who I am going to vote for in the Democratic primary already and his name is Bernie Sanders. Second, both parties do the same thing of passing off all of these questionable acts and sweeping them under the rug. If it's not one thing, it's something else. We need responsible and strong leadership, someone unwilling to back down from a fight and stand up for American values... Sanders is that for me. If he doesn't run, I don't know what I'll do just yet.

When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

At least Sanders admits he's a socialist. I respect him for it. I mean....he is a complete loon, but at least he doesn't use euphemisms.

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I wouldn't be so sure. Maybe there will be an attractive third-party candidate, and maybe I will just write in Bernie Sanders anyway. Again, just have to wait and see what happens. I think Hillary is a good person with excellent experience, but I'm not sure that I'd like to see her running the country. Elizabeth Warren, sure. Her? Dunno.

Of course, the political system is set up so it's pull the lever for one or the other. There's not much choice you have. Either you don't vote, you vote for a third-party candidate who will get only a small fraction of the vote, or you vote the way they want you to vote.

(03-03-2015 02:08 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  At least Sanders admits he's a socialist. I respect him for it. I mean....he is a complete loon, but at least he doesn't use euphemisms.

Same here.

I don't agree with any of his policies but at least he is honest about his true beliefs. The rest of the leftists not so much.

(03-03-2015 01:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:11 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 09:06 AM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 08:58 AM)Smaug Wrote:  So tell me, fizzy. What in her background tells you she'll be a good president?

I always figured the cult of personality required someone with a personality.

Breaking the next great barrier - She has female parts - she has a "D" next to her name on the ballot. This is ALL that matters. Nothing else does. But you already knew that.

It's sad that the leftists are so shallow.

Evidently they don't learn from past mistakes.

Unemployment below 6%, Dow Jones above 18,000, Nasdaq above 5000. I say we do.

based on 18 Trillion in debt.

I have seen several stories on this today on cable news. Not one and I mean zero, nada, none, have taken up for Pantsuits on this issue. First she was broke. Then she violated ethics rules by taking foreign country donations to the Clinton foundation. Now she is busted for using a personal email account that was against her own State Dep't guidelines. What's next? She is building up a great resume' before she even announces she is running for Pres. What a great candidate Dems.

(03-03-2015 02:10 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I think Hillary is a good person

Really? Based on what?

(03-03-2015 03:37 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:10 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I think Hillary is a good person

Really? Based on what?

She hasn't left Bill for banging the broads she wants to bang.

(03-03-2015 03:37 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:10 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I think Hillary is a good person

Really? Based on what?

Hillary is a mean, vindictive, cut your throat if you get in her way, person. And I held back some.

(03-03-2015 03:37 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:10 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I think Hillary is a good person

Really? Based on what?

Woman Sexually Harassed by Clinton says: “Hillary is the War on Women.”
“Hillary Clinton is the war on women, and that’s what needs to be exposed here,” Willey said Sunday night on Aaron Klein’s WABC Radio show.

“The point is what this woman is capable of doing to other women while she’s running a campaign basically on women’s issues. It just doesn’t make any sense. She singlehandedly orchestrated every one of the investigations of all these women [who accused her husband of sexual crimes]. They’re the people reminding us of how sordid this all is.”

And Willey also lashed into feminist organizations who never seem interested in the harassment against her by the Clintons.

“All of these women’s groups, they’re all pro-Hillary, they need to … talk to someone like me and listen here, what Hillary Clinton has done to me and many, many, many other women. They are so hypocritical, it’s unbelievable. And this is the woman that wants to be president.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenf...-on-women/

(03-03-2015 02:10 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:05 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 01:57 PM)Crebman Wrote:  When Hillary is the nominee - in the election, you'll dutifully pull that lever for her no matter if Teddy Roosevelt were the Republican name on that side.

You will be ever the dutiful follower and servant.

You seem to be quite the psychic. I imagine you know quite a bit about my political life and my views on a wide assortment of subjects.

I do not "dutifully" follow the Democratic elites around. I am voting for Sanders (if he runs), and like I said if he doesn't I will have to look at the field and choose the candidate I think is best. Obviously, if I am favoring Sanders, I do not particularly want a Republican in office, so chances are it's a Democrat who will get my vote. But nothing is certain yet. I like Hillary, even though she's got a whole myriad of issues, but I'm not voting for her over Bernie.

I'm fine with you voting for Bernie. I think he has about as much chance of securing the Democratic nomination as Lyndon LaRouche did of becoming president, but everyone gets to back their candidate.

As I said earlier - you will dutifully pull the lever for Hillary.

I wouldn't be so sure. Maybe there will be an attractive third-party candidate, and maybe I will just write in Bernie Sanders anyway. Again, just have to wait and see what happens. I think Hillary is a good person with excellent experience, but I'm not sure that I'd like to see her running the country. Elizabeth Warren, sure. Her? Dunno.

Of course, the political system is set up so it's pull the lever for one or the other. There's not much choice you have. Either you don't vote, you vote for a third-party candidate who will get only a small fraction of the vote, or you vote the way they want you to vote.

Funny, I think she's a nasty, vindictive person who was given jobs but never accomplished anything of note in any of them. She only got them because she married a man that became POTUS.

Name some of her accomplishments?

Being elected a carpetbagger Senator with her name in a state that would elect a Tabby Cat if it had a "D" next to it in the voting booth isn't a surprise.

Being named SOS because of Bill isn't something she did. What were her major accomplishments as SOS?

This is all window dressing imo.

The true "elites" chose Jeb long ago. They tapped Romney on the shoulder last month and told him to sit back down.

Jeb was going to be in the position of needing big Hispanic support at a time when Hispanic support for republicans is at an all time low. Thus Jeb amazingly majored in "Latin" studies in college and married a Mexican woman. His connection to Latin business and communities in the Americas are DEEP and POWERFUL, and most people don't even know about it yet. But they will over the next 2 years.

Jeb is the third Bush, as was decided long ago. Its no accident that he is 1000x smoother speaker and politician than his brother or dad were, he HAD to be if he was going to be the 3rd Bush. 41 or 43 were not smooth enough to be #3. Too much baggage would have been built up.

(03-03-2015 05:17 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  This is all window dressing imo.

The true "elites" chose Jeb long ago. They tapped Romney on the shoulder last month and told him to sit back down.

Jeb was going to be in the position of needing big Hispanic support at a time when Hispanic support for republicans is at an all time low. Thus Jeb amazingly majored in "Latin" studies in college and married a Mexican woman. His connection to Latin business and communities in the Americas are DEEP and POWERFUL, and most people don't even know about it yet. But they will over the next 2 years.

Jeb is the third Bush, as was decided long ago. Its no accident that he is 1000x smoother speaker and politician than his brother or dad were, he HAD to be if he was going to be the 3rd Bush. 41 or 43 were not smooth enough to be #3. Too much baggage would have been built up.

Conventional wisdom is the Republicans can't win with a moderate. But McCain had the 2008 election won until the economy imploded. And Romney could have won if he kept his foot on Obama's throat.

Bush is a good man and very competent. He's not my ideal candidate because I'm to the right of him. But he'd be 1,000% better than anyone on the other side, including the "moderate" Senator Webb.