Unfortunately, the only alternative to things like this is to allow kids to make binding commitments at any time - and that would be create a whole host of other nightmares.

It was well within Petrino's right to do this, even if it was a dick thing to do. But everyone already knew he was a shady dude, so he doesn't even lose anything by doing this.

At least the kid landed on his feet.

We had a good reason to disallow that 4 star kid from Florida last year after He was arrested. But I don't like this tactic. Especially after losing a commit to Miami at the last minute that would have taken care of the issue. Then He signed another RB at the last minute anyway on signing day to replace Him.

The first thing you have to remember is... never, ever, criticize the University of Louisville. They are purer than the new-fallen snow.

The second thing you have to remember is, that Petrino was within his "right" to do this and, yes, it happens all the time. Many times HS coaches try to flex their muscles and say "So and so Coach is NEVER welcome here again." But it's not the HS coach's role to ban some college or university from having contact with his players. So the HS coach here is actually the big jerk of the story. (It's happened to UC coaches too... I remember one Cincinnati area school where the HC said he would never "allow" a UC coach to recruit "his players" again... Big loss, the guy is a Michigan State schill...) The HC coach SHOULD be trying to help his kids land in the BEST POSSIBLE SPOT, which might well be Louisville down the line somewhere.

The third thing that I think needs to be remembered is where this kid ended up... He did not end up with all sorts of other schools beating down his door. This kid just isn't FBS caliber. That might be harsh, but there it is. He didn't develop into the caliber of player that is up to Louisville standards. He would have taken a scholarship from some other kid and never seen the field. Is that fair? Is that right?

The last thing to remember is that until an LOI is in the office, this kid could have flipped his offer on the Cards and gone...with no penalty...somewhere else...and his HS HC would probably have applauded it. Get over it all ready.

(02-06-2015 10:09 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Even though it wouldn't be good for the recruit... most likely, but I do wonder what a lawsuit might do, say if the kid doesn't get another scholarship offer. Although, he probably won't play a down in his life, but at least hold the school to pay for his education the he and his family thought they had covered.

On what grounds? Louisville offered him a grey shirt, meaning he would be on scholarship in January instead of August. He already has multiple offers from D1 schools as well. He will play football & he could've played with the Cards.

Despite what Kap says recruits are commonly recruited over. Just because writers dont write about a 2 or 3* recruit being dropped for a 4 or 5* recruit doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, even at Clemson. There's 3 reaons why this incident exploded into a story 1) its Patrino 2) the horrible timing & 3) the HS coach & his Rivals writer went threw a temper tantrum.

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(02-06-2015 10:48 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 10:09 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Even though it wouldn't be good for the recruit... most likely, but I do wonder what a lawsuit might do, say if the kid doesn't get another scholarship offer. Although, he probably won't play a down in his life, but at least hold the school to pay for his education the he and his family thought they had covered.

On what grounds? Louisville offered him a grey shirt, meaning he would be on scholarship in January instead of August. He already has multiple offers from D1 schools as well. He will play football & he could've played with the Cards.

Despite what Kap says recruits are commonly recruited over. Just because writers dont write about a 2 or 3* recruit being dropped for a 4 or 5* recruit doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, even at Clemson. There's 3 reaons why this incident exploded into a story 1) its Patrino 2) the horrible timing & 3) the HS coach & his Rivals writer went threw a temper tantrum.

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#4 S.C. H.S. player of the Year and Both USC and Clemson did not recruit Him.

Don't these kids do it to coaches all of the time?

"Trust factor is just not there."

Never thought I'd read that about Bobby Petrino.

The offer was never pulled fir it is still on the table if he wants it. This is exactly the same thing that happen Lonzo Mauldin when he was committed to South Carolina and Spurrier pulled his offer so to say and offered up the greyshirt proposal. This happens every where, but since it was done here at Louisville its considered to be a act of treason upon the staff and Petrino in how they do business. Whats the difference here than all these schools who over signed??? 

Louisville informed him before NSD unlike all these other players who think they are going to be apart of the 2015 recruiting class at their school. These players are going to be offered a greyshirt proposal or a get out of jail free card to pursue other schools, but under certain conditions of the school that over signed them most likely. If Louisville were in the SEC this would have been brushed under the rug, but since we are some what a new kid on the block so to say amongst the P5 in the ACC we are looked at at doing things the wrong way, but are we really or just doing like everyone else each and every year????

Hey, We just made Keith Olbermann's Worlds Worst. Very Cool ! Glad the D*ckhead noticed !

(02-06-2015 11:28 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 10:48 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-06-2015 10:09 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Even though it wouldn't be good for the recruit... most likely, but I do wonder what a lawsuit might do, say if the kid doesn't get another scholarship offer. Although, he probably won't play a down in his life, but at least hold the school to pay for his education the he and his family thought they had covered.

On what grounds? Louisville offered him a grey shirt, meaning he would be on scholarship in January instead of August. He already has multiple offers from D1 schools as well. He will play football & he could've played with the Cards.

Despite what Kap says recruits are commonly recruited over. Just because writers dont write about a 2 or 3* recruit being dropped for a 4 or 5* recruit doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, even at Clemson. There's 3 reaons why this incident exploded into a story 1) its Patrino 2) the horrible timing & 3) the HS coach & his Rivals writer went threw a temper tantrum.

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#4 S.C. H.S. player of the Year and Both USC and Clemson did not recruit Him.

I can't speak for South Carolina but we didn't need a RB in this class since we are bringing back 6 next year. This year's scholarship RB corps consists of one RS SR, one RS JR, two RS Soph, one true Soph, and one RS FR.

I think one point that we can all agree on is that recruiting needs to be cleaned up. More needs to be done to protect the kids. Hopefully the new early signing period will help, it should force coaches to show their hands to recruits sooner. I would like to see it before December to give the kids more time between the too signing periods.

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To continue, I would like to see the rules changed to allow athletes to change schools without penalty when there is a coaching change, HC or position. This would help in what happened at Ohio St & Texas for instance.

http://m.poconorecord.com/article/201502...01011/NEWS

How do you clean this up?

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/...es_li.html

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Again, I don't think anyone's necessarily defending the action...I'm just dumbfounded as to why WE'RE the villains that're making a "World's Worse!" list when we're far from the only program to have ever done something like this...hell we're not the worse example THIS YEAR of crappy recruiting practices!

Petrino isn't the only one who's done this, I seem to remember awhile back Alabama actually got a kid that was at the university and practicing before one of the coaches told him they didn't have a spot for him. That said, Petrino being a shady douche?! In other news, the sky is now blue. Still curious why Louisville hired this guy, they could've got much better.

Petrino's one of the best offensive minds in football. I'm sure the rest of you guys may not like him, but he's pretty damned loved here.

(02-07-2015 08:23 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Petrino isn't the only one who's done this, I seem to remember awhile back Alabama actually got a kid that was at the university and practicing before one of the coaches told him they didn't have a spot for him. That said, Petrino being a shady douche?! In other news, the sky is now blue. Still curious why Louisville hired this guy, they could've got much better.

His on the field coaching at the College level is not questioned...previously 41-9 Record at Louisville and Double Digit winning seasons his last two at Arkansas in the Rugged SEC West including a Sugar Bowl Appearance and Cotton Bowl win.

(02-07-2015 08:23 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Petrino isn't the only one who's done this, I seem to remember awhile back Alabama actually got a kid that was at the university and practicing before one of the coaches told him they didn't have a spot for him. That said, Petrino being a shady douche?! In other news, the sky is now blue. Still curious why Louisville hired this guy, they could've got much better.

He has the repect of one greatly respected man in Kentucky, former UK basketball coach Joe B Hall. He repeated these same words when Strong left for Texas.

http://vaughtsviews.com/having-petrino-a...s-as-well/

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Petrino brought the increased attention on himself. Louisville signed onto his baggage when they hired him. Nobody has any standing to complain, they went in with eyes open. What he does will have increased scrutiny, there isn't any changing it so might as well accept it.

When these instances do happen at other schools, they should be reported on. Leaving a long-standing commit at the curb during the dead period is worth reporting on.

(02-07-2015 01:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Petrino brought the increased attention on himself. Louisville signed onto his baggage when they hired him. Nobody has any standing to complain, they went in with eyes open. What he does will have increased scrutiny, there isn't any changing it so might as well accept it.

When these instances do happen at other schools, they should be reported on. Leaving a long-standing commit at the curb during the dead period is worth reporting on.

True...just pointing out the somewhat double standard that happens at a lot of P5 Schools...but Petrino in case like this will NOT GET THE BENEFIT of the Doubt...

The bulk of the posters that complain about Louisville are from G5 schools. Jealous much?