(02-05-2015 02:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:16 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 10:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 08:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  While Obama is trying to figure out how to tax our last dime out of us he seems to have a special place in his heart for illegals.

And they should.

They have been exploited for years without having been able to receive tax refunds.

Exploited? How. They are here illegally. They CHOSE to come here illegally. They are owed NOTHING.

Just because they are here illegally doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with them.

Compensate them rightfully for their work. I do.

It's the right thing to do. It's the human thing to do.

Since you employed these "independent contractors" you gave them 1099 forms correct?

They didn't request one.

(02-05-2015 02:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:16 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 10:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  And they should.

They have been exploited for years without having been able to receive tax refunds.

Exploited? How. They are here illegally. They CHOSE to come here illegally. They are owed NOTHING.

Just because they are here illegally doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with them.

Compensate them rightfully for their work. I do.

It's the right thing to do. It's the human thing to do.

Since you employed these "independent contractors" you gave them 1099 forms correct?

They didn't request one.

That doesn't matter. As the entity issuing payment you are required to issue one.

(02-05-2015 02:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:16 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Exploited? How. They are here illegally. They CHOSE to come here illegally. They are owed NOTHING.

Just because they are here illegally doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with them.

Compensate them rightfully for their work. I do.

It's the right thing to do. It's the human thing to do.

Since you employed these "independent contractors" you gave them 1099 forms correct?

They didn't request one.

That doesn't matter. As the entity issuing payment you are required to issue one.

Correct, and you were supposed to request a W-9 that verifies SSN or TIN and the legals status of the individual or contractor.

Better look out for Obama's IRS thugs Fit...

(02-05-2015 03:22 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:49 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:45 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:43 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 12:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Just because they are here illegally doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want with them.

Compensate them rightfully for their work. I do.

It's the right thing to do. It's the human thing to do.

Since you employed these "independent contractors" you gave them 1099 forms correct?

They didn't request one.

That doesn't matter. As the entity issuing payment you are required to issue one.

Correct, and you were supposed to request a W-9 that verifies SSN or TIN and the legals status of the individual or contractor.

Better look out for Obama's IRS thugs Fit...

He's a leftist. The IRS isn't concerned with them. Too busy doing the political bidding of the administration.

Do you do the same for teenagers when you pay them to cut your lawn?

(02-05-2015 03:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you do the same for teenagers when you pay them to cut your lawn?

The only teenagers to ever cut my lawn live under my roof and cut it as part of their family responsibilities.

As much as I hate cutting grass I'll cut it myself before I pay someone to do it. I grew up on a working farm, I am not afraid to get my hands dirty.

(02-05-2015 03:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you do the same for teenagers when you pay them to cut your lawn?

Tsk Tsk.... say you aren't using child labor to have your yard cut!

(The 1099 rule only applied to individuals, businesses and contractors you paid over $600 for during the year. Most people don't pay kids $600 bucks to cut their yards.)


I had a rather interesting thought though, since you brought the subject up. Do you mean to imply that you are treating these poor undocumented workers as though they were kids trying to make a few bucks to supplement their allowances? Better be careful, that sounds an awful lot like the "exploitation" you were accusing others of earlier.

(02-05-2015 03:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 03:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Do you do the same for teenagers when you pay them to cut your lawn?

The only teenagers to ever cut my lawn live under my roof and cut it as part of their family responsibilities.

As much as I hate cutting grass I'll cut it myself before I pay someone to do it. I grew up on a working farm, I am not afraid to get my hands dirty.

I usually cut my own grass with a manual mower because that is what my father used. However, every now and again when seemingly undocumented workers travel through my neighborhood looking for work. I usually find something for them to do.

I have a single mom that lives across the street. If I have nothing for them, I give them a $20 and ask them to go fix something for the nice lady down the street.

So Steve, what the **** is an 'extra tax refund'?

Maybe I need to renounce my American citizenship, leave the country, and then re-enter illegally.

$$$

Still waiting to be informed about all these jobs that illegals do because Americans are too lazy to do them

(02-05-2015 10:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 08:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  While Obama is trying to figure out how to tax our last dime out of us he seems to have a special place in his heart for illegals.

Quote:IRS Commissioner John Koskinen confirmed Tuesday that illegal immigrants granted amnesty from deportation under President Obama’s new policies would be able to get extra refunds from the IRS for money they earned while working illegally, as long as they filed returns during those years.

Illegal immigrants who are granted the amnesty will be given official Social Security numbers, which means they can go back and amend up to three years of previous tax forms to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, potentially claiming billions of dollars in additional payments they were ineligible for before the amnesty.

Mr. Koskinen said they will have to have already filed returns for those back-years, and there’s a statute of limitations that governs how far they can go back, but said the agency’s current interpretation of laws would allow them to claim the EITC credit retroactively.

Link to more

And they should.

They have been exploited for years without having been able to receive tax refunds.

Fit, the only way they could have had taxes withheld is if they had a social security number. If they're illegal, the only way they could provide one is by identity theft.

(02-05-2015 11:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 10:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 08:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  While Obama is trying to figure out how to tax our last dime out of us he seems to have a special place in his heart for illegals.

Quote:IRS Commissioner John Koskinen confirmed Tuesday that illegal immigrants granted amnesty from deportation under President Obama’s new policies would be able to get extra refunds from the IRS for money they earned while working illegally, as long as they filed returns during those years.

Illegal immigrants who are granted the amnesty will be given official Social Security numbers, which means they can go back and amend up to three years of previous tax forms to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, potentially claiming billions of dollars in additional payments they were ineligible for before the amnesty.

Mr. Koskinen said they will have to have already filed returns for those back-years, and there’s a statute of limitations that governs how far they can go back, but said the agency’s current interpretation of laws would allow them to claim the EITC credit retroactively.

Link to more

And they should.

They have been exploited for years without having been able to receive tax refunds.

Actually They were exploiting America for Years. Taking jobs that real Americans or Legal citizens could do and in many cases Not paying taxes or sending the Money out of the Country instead of spending it here helping American economy and jobs.

Yeah but just think of this. By sending that money back, it spurs the Mexican economy. This means more jobs in Mexico which in turn cuts down the number of people coming over the border illegally and slow down the invasion of tbe "brown people". I would think the white supremacists on the board would be happy with that prospect.

(02-05-2015 05:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So Steve, what the **** is an 'extra tax refund'?

Read the article. But typically extra, in many senses of the word, means additional.

(02-05-2015 07:53 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Maybe I need to renounce my American citizenship, leave the country, and then re-enter illegally.

$$$

You wouldn't survive .

If you're undocumented, or illegal, (or whatever the liberal code word is these days) you get nothing.

"You lose!! Good day, sir!!"

(02-05-2015 08:50 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 11:15 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 10:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-04-2015 08:20 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  While Obama is trying to figure out how to tax our last dime out of us he seems to have a special place in his heart for illegals.

Quote:IRS Commissioner John Koskinen confirmed Tuesday that illegal immigrants granted amnesty from deportation under President Obama’s new policies would be able to get extra refunds from the IRS for money they earned while working illegally, as long as they filed returns during those years.

Illegal immigrants who are granted the amnesty will be given official Social Security numbers, which means they can go back and amend up to three years of previous tax forms to claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, potentially claiming billions of dollars in additional payments they were ineligible for before the amnesty.

Mr. Koskinen said they will have to have already filed returns for those back-years, and there’s a statute of limitations that governs how far they can go back, but said the agency’s current interpretation of laws would allow them to claim the EITC credit retroactively.

Link to more

And they should.

They have been exploited for years without having been able to receive tax refunds.

Actually They were exploiting America for Years. Taking jobs that real Americans or Legal citizens could do and in many cases Not paying taxes or sending the Money out of the Country instead of spending it here helping American economy and jobs.

Yeah but just think of this. By sending that money back, it spurs the Mexican economy. This means more jobs in Mexico which in turn cuts down the number of people coming over the border illegally and slow down the invasion of tbe "brown people". I would think the white supremacists on the board would be happy with that prospect.

Quite a few of the Mexicans Here are of the White skin variety . Blend in well until They give Themselves away by not speaking English. And We have a large Latin American population in every county around here. And for the most part Skinheads are almost Non existent here. Seems to be most are in Chicago left over from Rockwells American Nazi Party movement.

(02-05-2015 02:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 02:19 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  They could have went home at any time.



It's "…they could have 'gone' home at any time."

People used to say the same thing about slaves in the 1800's to justify slavery.

Ok, since you went there, do you support reparations for slavery?

(02-05-2015 08:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 05:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So Steve, what the **** is an 'extra tax refund'?

Read the article. But typically extra, in many senses of the word, means additional.

Extra implies something no one else gets or beyond the law the way you're using it here. They are getting the same exact refund any other filer is getting and entitled to. They are getting nothing extra...and Obama doesn't write tax policy or make tax decisions...so basically, I destroyed the entire straw man you're trying to construct here in a minute. Have a nice day!

(02-06-2015 10:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 08:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-05-2015 05:10 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So Steve, what the **** is an 'extra tax refund'?

Read the article. But typically extra, in many senses of the word, means additional.

Extra implies something no one else gets or beyond the law the way you're using it here. They are getting the same exact refund any other filer is getting and entitled to. They are getting nothing extra...and Obama doesn't write tax policy or make tax decisions...so basically, I destroyed the entire straw man you're trying to construct here in a minute. Have a nice day!

Implies? How about the exact meaning:

adjective
1.
beyond or more than what is usual, expected, or necessary; additional:
"an extra copy of a newspaper; an extra charge."

2.
larger or better than what is usual:
"an extra binding."

If you feel good about this there's nothing stopping you from sending money directly to Mexico yourself.