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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
Andy Kennedy.

Played and coached under Gene Bartow. Coached under Huggins. From the mid South. Played Memphis as all-conference player. Understands the city and the importance of Memphis basketball. Good recruiter for the program he's in. Already has Tony Matlock on staff.
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(01-08-2015 11:11 PM)mapdude Wrote:  How fast did Larry Brown turn SMU around?

How long did it take Cal to turn Memphis around?
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:09 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:06 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

I think Buzz would listen, but if you have better for cheaper, I'm listening. Who you thinking?

I've got a list, too late at night to go through all of it.

Bruce Pearl
Brad Underwood
Fred Hoiberg
Chris Mack (stretch)
Ben Jacobsen

I can go on for a while, but these guys get calls from the AD at least.
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

Well, I'm a miserable by most accounts and just because Wolken says it doesn't make it accurate. I think he's wrong.
But, you know what, even if he's right I don't care at this point. It's time for a change. Now.
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

Some of the media guys are more plugged in than message board guys.
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(01-08-2015 11:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Andy Kennedy.

Played and coached under Gene Bartow. Coached under Huggins. From the mid South. Played Memphis as all-conference player. Understands the city and the importance of Memphis basketball. Good recruiter for the program he's in.

If you want to go the Bartow route, we could probably get Murry Bartow from ETSU.
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

There are betters out there but any of the birds above are better than living in this nightmare
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

They have never had these resources or city to recruit. I especially like the White and Stoudamire ideas. Damon would have INSTANT credibility recruiting.

And why do you have to be a miserable to say we are a top 15 program historically. That sounds... fairly close actually... In fact, that sounds positive!

Look, I'd want Buzz Williams or Shaka Smart, but if Smart wasn't going to listen to UCLA, there is a 0.0% chance he comes here.

But I'm not giving up on a big name, just saying a smaller name might have potential...
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(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

I read that there was some friction with the Marquette AD, but he also said he left because the competition level in the ACC was better than what he considered to be a marginalized BE.

Whether he was right or wrong there, not sure why he would jump to the AAC if he meant it.
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RE: Memphis "Candidate Pool" according to Wolken.
(01-08-2015 11:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:04 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  If people other than us goons are talking about a candidate pool, then you can bet there's serious talk.

Yeah, that might be true. When the public writers are starting to talk names, the seat is no longer hot, but in flames...

(01-08-2015 10:57 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

If at Marquette, no. But at VT? I'm inclined to believe you.

(01-08-2015 10:59 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  I actually like Ron Hunter (and his son) a lot. He's one of those guys I've been referring to - handcuffed by current situation, w]could thrive with a big program behind him. Same goes for Mike White. Neither would be bad hires.

I say no on Stoudemire, even though I like him...can't afford to go that route again. Not at Memphis!

If Buzz, Pearl, Martin all decline (along w the big names like Shaka and Marshall) Wolken could be right. Wouldn't be the end of the world, but what Stammers, myself, and others have been saying would be a reality...no wow hires!

A wow hire is a great coach who wins games, not one who is a wow name. If it comes to replacing Pastner (sigh), Buzz would be a great call, and I would call Shaka (no) and possibly Marshall (no).

I'd call Avery Johnson (likely no), and I'd call Pearl (?).

But if not, Mike White, Damon, and Ron Hunter would all be worthy names.

It is what it is.

Ron Hunter
- 20 years as a head coach
- ONE NCAA tournament game
- Best job, Georgia State

Mike White
- 4 years as a head coach
- ZERO NCAA tournament games
- Best job, Louisiana Tech

Damon Stoudamire
- ZERO years as a head coach

The miserables who say we are a top 15 program that can attract a great coach, where anyone can win, are going to get a very sobering does of reality.

There are betters out there but any of the coaches above are better than living in this nightmare
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This thread is ridiculous. Our season is not over. Keep the hope.
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(01-08-2015 11:19 PM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Andy Kennedy.

Played and coached under Gene Bartow. Coached under Huggins. From the mid South. Played Memphis as all-conference player. Understands the city and the importance of Memphis basketball. Good recruiter for the program he's in.

If you want to go the Bartow route, we could probably get Murry Bartow from ETSU.

An interesting gamble. I am a huge ETSU fan, but I would be hesitant.
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(01-08-2015 11:21 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  This thread is ridiculous. Our season is not over. Keep the hope.

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Pearl should be first on the list. Proven commodity. Greater than 50% chance of getting him. If Houston can hire Sampson, Louisville can hire Petrino, and I could go and on with examples why should we not go after Pearl. He would turn things around as quick or quicker than Larry Brown has done at SMU.
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Any of those guys give any reason why we can't hire a name coach? Are they saying it's the critical fanbase or what?
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(01-08-2015 11:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:09 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:06 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
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(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

I think Buzz would listen, but if you have better for cheaper, I'm listening. Who you thinking?

I've got a list, too late at night to go through all of it.

Bruce Pearl
Brad Underwood
Fred Hoiberg
Chris Mack (stretch)
Ben Jacobsen

I can go on for a while, but these guys get calls from the AD at least.

Hoiberg is even more entrenched than Shaka Smart. The rest of the list is possibly realistic and awful.
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(01-08-2015 11:06 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

We are not in a buy cheap mode.
Buzz left Marquette for non basketball reasons.
He didn't go to Va Tech because of the possibilities, he wanted out.
Our $$ are better and we can win a championship here.
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(01-08-2015 11:21 PM)C-Mac Wrote:  This thread is ridiculous. Our season is not over. Keep the hope.

Welcome, newbie!
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(01-08-2015 11:12 PM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  Plenty of coaches would be interested. Parrish has said that Marshall would listen to an offer.

Wolken and the other clowns are going off of what happened during our last search. It was hard to hire a coach when we had to tell him the looming trouble with the NCAA. Coaches will shy away from that. Plus who wanted to follow Cal?

This is a tough job and a lot of coach's don't have to deal with the microscope that is Memphis Basketball.
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(01-08-2015 11:23 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:06 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 11:01 PM)beanburrito Wrote:  
(01-08-2015 10:53 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  John Martin ‏@JohnMartin929 · 8m8 minutes ago
@geoff_calkins What's overinflated is that there are people who believe firing Pastner will result in Gregg Marshall or Buzz.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 7m7 minutes ago
@JohnMartin929 @geoff_calkins Mike White, Ron Hunter or Damon Stoudamire. There’s your candidate pool.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 26m26 minutes ago
But I’ll say this to Memphis fans: If/when there is a change, the replacement possibilities will not be what you hope they will be.

Buzz would take the first flight here and take the job. Get real.

A lot of BFS here.

No, he wouldn't. Plus, we could find better for cheaper. Use your head,

We are not in a buy cheap mode.
Buzz left Marquette for non basketball reasons.
He didn't go to Va Tech because of the possibilities, he wanted out.
Our $$ are better and we can win a championship here.

Bean! One of the best ever here! Where you been my man?
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