(01-02-2015 09:04 AM)madizoned-level2004 Wrote:  WVU is the Big East opponent I miss most. Hillbillies vs Guidos. 'Neers vs 'Nights. They'd need AAU membership before joining the Big Ten. Also, I think they'd have to prove that they can expand the BTN footprint, and I'm not sure they do. I assume their alumni are largely in places like Pittsburgh, maybe the DC area, and these are markets where BTN is already on the air.

Actually, AAU membership isn't necessary, they just really like it when the University has it. They could vote in a school that doesn't have AAU membership if they had other academic excuses as to why the school is academically viable. What they are really looking for is a Brand or a Market.

Rutgers and Maryland were picked more for their markets than their AAU membership.

(01-02-2015 10:23 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  UCONN to the PAC.

Announcement coming this Tuesday.

Yeah, but only for Olympic sports. Football and baseball are going to the SEC and basketball is going to the ACC.

Each conference wants to "grab a share" of the "NYC market" for "reasons." The SEC and ACC moves will be announced Wednesday and Thursday, respectively.

(01-02-2015 07:51 AM)Danger in Carolina Wrote:  Well since it's a fact that the Big 12 was turned down by UConn already (I get my facts from this board), one wonders what insider information Don Amore has.

HEY-OH!!!

Don Amor has a ton of sources, is a respected writer (you don't win all those awards by being wrong. period.), and should never be compared to anonymous blog/messageboard writers.

Why is it so difficult to take what he says at face value? It seems there are those who are afraid of what more realignment could do to their schools that are the quickest to ridicule Mr. Amore. That is not being fair to him.

A guy like Amore speaks with Aresco, the Uconn President, the movers and shakers. He also doesn't indicate that further expansion will necessarily be good for Uconn.

This is a smoking gun. And quite frankly, tie in what I have been hearing about the AAC's biggest brand, revenue earner, and athletic program heads and shoulders above everyone, the folks in Cincinnati, well, they must be clicking their heals.

(01-02-2015 08:14 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 06:46 AM)uakronkid Wrote:  More "expansion is imminent" articles have come out of Hartford than anywhere else since the collapse of the Big East.

WOW!!! A Go West reference.

(01-02-2015 12:06 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  Don Amor has a ton of sources, is a respected writer (you don't win all those awards by being wrong. period.), and should never be compared to anonymous blog/messageboard writers.

Why is it so difficult to take what he says at face value? It seems there are those who are afraid of what more realignment could do to their schools that are the quickest to ridicule Mr. Amore. That is not being fair to him.

A guy like Amore speaks with Aresco, the Uconn President, the movers and shakers. He also doesn't indicate that further expansion will necessarily be good for Uconn.

This is a smoking gun. And quite frankly, tie in what I have been hearing about the AAC's biggest brand, revenue earner, and athletic program heads and shoulders above everyone, the folks in Cincinnati, well, they must be clicking their heals.

That doesn't mean they tell him anything of consequence. But it isn't him so much that is so hard to take at face value. It is you. Every time you post another ridiculous thread like this, your reputation as a troll increases exponentially. But then, that's what you're going for, isn't it?

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

Markets don't matter. Fans do. "WVU has a ton of fans and generates a ton of interest" is the argument that you should be making, not "WVU fans are scattered across America." All other factors being equal, that argument actually hurts you (unless you're claiming that a scattered fan base somehow creates interest).

(01-02-2015 10:04 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

Don't you read our board?

The American is a POWERHOUSE!!! IT CANNOT BE STOPPED!!! ONLY HOPE IS TO CONTAIN US!!!

Well.........except for UC, they keep getting blownout in bowl games to middle of the pack AAC teams.

(01-02-2015 12:26 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:06 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  Don Amor has a ton of sources, is a respected writer (you don't win all those awards by being wrong. period.), and should never be compared to anonymous blog/messageboard writers.

Why is it so difficult to take what he says at face value? It seems there are those who are afraid of what more realignment could do to their schools that are the quickest to ridicule Mr. Amore. That is not being fair to him.

A guy like Amore speaks with Aresco, the Uconn President, the movers and shakers. He also doesn't indicate that further expansion will necessarily be good for Uconn.

This is a smoking gun. And quite frankly, tie in what I have been hearing about the AAC's biggest brand, revenue earner, and athletic program heads and shoulders above everyone, the folks in Cincinnati, well, they must be clicking their heals.

That doesn't mean they tell him anything of consequence. But it isn't him so much that is so hard to take at face value. It is you. Every time you post another ridiculous thread like this, your reputation as a troll increases exponentially. But then, that's what you're going for, isn't it?

Head and shoulders above everybody else??? I want some of what your smoking! UC is head and shoulders above everybody else in the AAC at getting blown out in bowl games to middle of the pack ACC teams perhaps.

(01-02-2015 12:59 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

Markets don't matter. Fans do. "WVU has a ton of fans and generates a ton of interest" is the argument that you should be making, not "WVU fans are scattered across America." All other factors being equal, that argument actually hurts you (unless you're claiming that a scattered fan base somehow creates interest).

When discussing WVU fans, you're talking about a team whose fans travel, no matter where the game is. That's been proven out over the decades. Ask any bowl game representative. They love seeing WVU come to town. They know there will be a large contingent of fans who spend money. Not for nothing is WVU among the top 20 schools in sales of school merchandise.

So your thinking here doesn't apply. WVU, and WVU fans, break any mold.

BTW, I have converted people into WVU fans wherever I've lived, and I've lived in a lot of places.

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

When you look at WVa's DMA maps this is what you get: http://www.wvablue.com/diary/2801/

"There are 8 media markets that include parts of West Virginia.

The Wheeling / Steubenville, OH market includes 6 counties in W.Va. and 5 in Ohio.

The Parkersburg market includes 2 W.Va. counties and 1 Ohio county.

The Charleston / Huntington market covers 16 W.Va. counties, 6 in Ohio, and 10 in KY.

The Bluefield / Beckley-Oak Hill market spans 9 W.Va. counties and 1 VA county.

The lone self-contained media market in W.Va. is the Clarksburg-Weston market. Ironically, it is also the only market to include at least one county in all 3 W.Va. congressional districts.

The Pittsburg, PA market includes only 2 W.Va. counties, 1 MD county, and 13 PA counties.

In the eastern part of W.Va., Pendelton county joins 2 VA counties (and 3 cities) to make up the Harrisonburg, VA market.

The remaining 7 counties in W.Va. are part of the vast DC / NoVa / Hagerstown-MD market that includes Washington, DC, one county in PA, 8 counties in MD and 15 counties (plus a handful of cities) in VA."

From the perspective of the ACC, West Va was redundant from a market standpoint due to Pitt, VA, VT, Louisville, and MD.

With MD gone, West Va's potential value to the ACC is higher, however a negative view would be that the only "new" territory they would deliver to the ACC is SW West Va, and part of eastern Ohio.

WVa had no chance to enter the ACC as long as MD was in the ACC. That's changed and there are probably only three solid blackballs against them - VA, Duke, and GT. That means they would have to run the table with market overlapers Pitt, Louisville, and VT, and get WF's vote.

I can't see WVa as the ACC's 15th football school, 16th or 18th maybe, but not 15th.

It's so much easier and simpler for the ACC to do nothing than to add.

(01-02-2015 01:10 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:59 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

Markets don't matter. Fans do. "WVU has a ton of fans and generates a ton of interest" is the argument that you should be making, not "WVU fans are scattered across America." All other factors being equal, that argument actually hurts you (unless you're claiming that a scattered fan base somehow creates interest).

When discussing WVU fans, you're talking about a team whose fans travel, no matter where the game is. That's been proven out over the decades. Ask any bowl game representative. They love seeing WVU come to town. They know there will be a large contingent of fans who spend money. Not for nothing is WVU among the top 20 schools in sales of school merchandise.

So your thinking here doesn't apply. WVU, and WVU fans, break any mold.

BTW, I have converted people into WVU fans wherever I've lived, and I've lived in a lot of places.

My thinking was that your argument was deeply flawed, which it is/was. I didn't say anything with regards to WVU's financial attractiveness, or lack thereof. My honest opinion is that I would rather be in a conference with Pitt, but WVU is better for ticket sales, bowl revenue, and TV money.

(01-02-2015 01:15 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 01:10 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:59 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

Markets don't matter. Fans do. "WVU has a ton of fans and generates a ton of interest" is the argument that you should be making, not "WVU fans are scattered across America." All other factors being equal, that argument actually hurts you (unless you're claiming that a scattered fan base somehow creates interest).

When discussing WVU fans, you're talking about a team whose fans travel, no matter where the game is. That's been proven out over the decades. Ask any bowl game representative. They love seeing WVU come to town. They know there will be a large contingent of fans who spend money. Not for nothing is WVU among the top 20 schools in sales of school merchandise.

So your thinking here doesn't apply. WVU, and WVU fans, break any mold.

BTW, I have converted people into WVU fans wherever I've lived, and I've lived in a lot of places.

My thinking was that your argument was deeply flawed, which it is/was. I didn't say anything with regards to WVU's financial attractiveness, or lack thereof. My honest opinion is that I would rather be in a conference with Pitt, but WVU is better for ticket sales, bowl revenue, and TV money.

So you prefer the less profitable option? Good luck with that thinking.

And as for the ACC's thinking on WVU, I'm glad the ACC doesn't want the Mountaineers. That allows WVU to be with like minded schools, rather than schools that don't put an emphasis on football, which funds Mountaineer sports - and at a profit, unlike most schools across the nation who end up in the red.

WVU fits in the Big XII, since all schools there are like minded. We'd also fit in the SEC, since it has the same mindset. But I have no desire for the Mountaineers to join the ACC, unless UNC gets their accreditation yanked, and is no longer a factor there.

If that means WVU loses all their old rivals, so be it. IMO we're still better off.

(01-02-2015 01:24 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 01:15 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 01:10 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:59 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

Markets don't matter. Fans do. "WVU has a ton of fans and generates a ton of interest" is the argument that you should be making, not "WVU fans are scattered across America." All other factors being equal, that argument actually hurts you (unless you're claiming that a scattered fan base somehow creates interest).

When discussing WVU fans, you're talking about a team whose fans travel, no matter where the game is. That's been proven out over the decades. Ask any bowl game representative. They love seeing WVU come to town. They know there will be a large contingent of fans who spend money. Not for nothing is WVU among the top 20 schools in sales of school merchandise.

So your thinking here doesn't apply. WVU, and WVU fans, break any mold.

BTW, I have converted people into WVU fans wherever I've lived, and I've lived in a lot of places.

My thinking was that your argument was deeply flawed, which it is/was. I didn't say anything with regards to WVU's financial attractiveness, or lack thereof. My honest opinion is that I would rather be in a conference with Pitt, but WVU is better for ticket sales, bowl revenue, and TV money.

So you prefer the less profitable option? Good luck with that thinking.

And as for the ACC's thinking on WVU, I'm glad the ACC doesn't want the Mountaineers. That allows WVU to be with like minded schools, rather than schools that don't put an emphasis on football, which funds Mountaineer sports - and at a profit, unlike most schools across the nation who end up in the red.

WVU fits in the Big XII, since all schools there are like minded. We'd also fit in the SEC, since it has the same mindset. But I have no desire for the Mountaineers to join the ACC, unless UNC gets their accreditation yanked, and is no longer a factor there.

If that means WVU loses all their old rivals, so be it. IMO we're still better off.

I agree that being with like-minded schools is important. That's why I'm willing to take the "financial loss" - which may or may not be a financial loss, depending on a given school's goal. Your mocking aside, fit has worked out really well on the past when it's done right, even in the face of financial losses (see Ivy League). Regardless, geography aside, I agree that WVU fits in well with the Big XII.

(01-02-2015 05:19 AM)BE4evah Wrote:  "Things have been quiet on the conference realignment front, but don't expect it to stay that way. There will be another round of movement..."

Don Amore, The Hartford Courant, January 1,2015

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-mens...story.html

About Don Amore:
Dom Amore joined the Courant in 1988 and has been the UConn men’s basketball beat reporter since 2011, chronicling their national championship run in 2014. He also has covered the Giants, Whalers and Yankees beats during his career in Hartford. Dom has won more than two dozen state, regional and national sportswriting awards. The National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association named him Connecticut Sportswriter of the Year in 2011, 2012 and 2013. He served as vice chairman of the New York Chapter of the Baseball Writers of America in 2005-06. A lifelong resident of the New Haven area, he previously worked for the Shore Line Newspapers, the New Haven Register and the Milford Citizen.

This isn't some twitter/blog starwars character. From what I have found out, he is the guy with the deepest sources at Uconn AND Providence/AAC headquarters. This news doesn't necessarily implicate Uconn, that is Uconn is the one that may move, but Mr.Amore's credentials are unimpeachable. I wonder if word is filtering through AAC headquarters...

BE4evah,
I was REALLY hoping that your New Year's Resolutions included the following items:
1) Seek professional help for irrational obsession with UConn
2) Stop creating troll threads about UConn merely for the purpose of getting posters to flame UConn

Sadly, 2015 already looks a lot like 2014!!!

My guess is the playoffs will be expanded to 6 or 8 or p5 conference moves happen to create 4 clear pathways to the playoffs, i.e. pac 20 or big 12/acc merger. ESPN got to love the ratings

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releas...n-and-abc/

(01-02-2015 01:14 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:48 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 08:12 AM)Otacon Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 07:20 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  OK..... Why TF would Baylor and TCU leave the Big 12 for the American? Why would the B1G go after Iowa St (they already own this mega market) and WVU (a nonexistent market)?

WVU own almost all the eastern seaboard market. Second to none. Plus WVU's academics are suppose to jump to somewhere in the mid fifties next year.....

I wouldn't say WVU owns the entire eastern seaboard, dude. That's reaching, big time.

Of course, CP was reaching when he said WVU has no market. WVU's market is as big, if not bigger than Pitt's. And unless Pitt football improves, interest in WVU football will outpace interest in Pitt football in Pittsburgh. Ask any Pittsburgh sports writer, since they witness the non-existent crowds at Pitt stadium weekly during football season.

WVU's market is far larger than just the State of West Virginia. WVU's broadcast footprint reaches into Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and DC. And in each of those cities, there are a good number of WVU alums, as well as West Virginians scattered across the entire United States that left the state to find work. The State of West Virginia has been exporting its citizens to other states since before it became a state. I should know. My family is scattered from the east coast to the west coast, and from Canada to Florida.

When you look at WVa's DMA maps this is what you get: http://www.wvablue.com/diary/2801/

"There are 8 media markets that include parts of West Virginia.

The Wheeling / Steubenville, OH market includes 6 counties in W.Va. and 5 in Ohio.

The Parkersburg market includes 2 W.Va. counties and 1 Ohio county.

The Charleston / Huntington market covers 16 W.Va. counties, 6 in Ohio, and 10 in KY.

The Bluefield / Beckley-Oak Hill market spans 9 W.Va. counties and 1 VA county.

The lone self-contained media market in W.Va. is the Clarksburg-Weston market. Ironically, it is also the only market to include at least one county in all 3 W.Va. congressional districts.

The Pittsburg, PA market includes only 2 W.Va. counties, 1 MD county, and 13 PA counties.

In the eastern part of W.Va., Pendelton county joins 2 VA counties (and 3 cities) to make up the Harrisonburg, VA market.

The remaining 7 counties in W.Va. are part of the vast DC / NoVa / Hagerstown-MD market that includes Washington, DC, one county in PA, 8 counties in MD and 15 counties (plus a handful of cities) in VA."

From the perspective of the ACC, West Va was redundant from a market standpoint due to Pitt, VA, VT, Louisville, and MD.

With MD gone, West Va's potential value to the ACC is higher, however a negative view would be that the only "new" territory they would deliver to the ACC is SW West Va, and part of eastern Ohio.

WVa had no chance to enter the ACC as long as MD was in the ACC. That's changed and there are probably only three solid blackballs against them - VA, Duke, and GT. That means they would have to run the table with market overlapers Pitt, Louisville, and VT, and get WF's vote.

I can't see WVa as the ACC's 15th football school, 16th or 18th maybe, but not 15th.

It's so much easier and simpler for the ACC to do nothing than to add.

I could see that ESPN would like to add West Virginia to the ACC to help penetration into the northeastern market to help combat the B1G for media attention.
I can also see that the ACC would take a #15 and stop. If we get the legislation passed that would allow our own selection method of a champion, I could see 3 pods of 5 teams. Then West Virginia would make the perfect #15.

I like three pods of 5 as well. The ideal selection system is the three Pod winners and a wild card, but that adds an extra game.

(01-02-2015 01:08 PM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:26 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-02-2015 12:06 PM)BE4evah Wrote:  Don Amor has a ton of sources, is a respected writer (you don't win all those awards by being wrong. period.), and should never be compared to anonymous blog/messageboard writers.

Why is it so difficult to take what he says at face value? It seems there are those who are afraid of what more realignment could do to their schools that are the quickest to ridicule Mr. Amore. That is not being fair to him.

A guy like Amore speaks with Aresco, the Uconn President, the movers and shakers. He also doesn't indicate that further expansion will necessarily be good for Uconn.

This is a smoking gun. And quite frankly, tie in what I have been hearing about the AAC's biggest brand, revenue earner, and athletic program heads and shoulders above everyone, the folks in Cincinnati, well, they must be clicking their heals.

That doesn't mean they tell him anything of consequence. But it isn't him so much that is so hard to take at face value. It is you. Every time you post another ridiculous thread like this, your reputation as a troll increases exponentially. But then, that's what you're going for, isn't it?

Head and shoulders above everybody else??? I want some of what your smoking! UC is head and shoulders above everybody else in the AAC at getting blown out in bowl games to middle of the pack ACC teams perhaps.

Someone is bitter that UC is widely regarded as a superior athletic department to UCF...