(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yeah, I guess that joke didn't translate very well.

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Irish, German, and Native American mostly. Stop being sarcastic and let's stick with current events since this thread is about a current event. I'm still waiting on an answer from you.

(12-12-2014 02:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

You thought the same thing I did. But this wasn't in the United States. Weak.

(12-12-2014 02:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

Fitbud is from a nation of racists that enslaved blacks, LoL, WOW!

Bud is just mad that the Gringos won the wars and the land from Frito Banditos. And that "White" America created the most powerful country on the planet and Mexico is still 3rd World, except in enclaves that are 100% Spanish Euro blood.

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Wait. Wut? Are you suggesting that "your" race, whatever that is (Mexican, perhaps?), has no history (there's that troubling word again ) of slavery and enslavement of Africans?!?

Do you know anything at all about slavery in Latin America, how it compares numerically to USA/North America and who brought the slaves over?

Psssst! It weren't "Americans". First, there weren't that many of us to do all that, and by historical (there's that troubling word again ) fact we didn't even exist as 'Muricans until about, what? 1783 or so.

Good grief, go read a book.

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

While that is true, who sold those slaves to western slave traders? So, you must also say that black people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries.

Salon Liberal To Her White Male Friends: You Guys Are Racist And You Don’t Realize It Because Of Your White Privilege…



The woman claims she’s against stereotyping… while she stereotypes white men.

Quote: Because some of these forms of injustice don’t happen to you, and the history you learned in school, and what you hear from a lot of the media, and from other white men, is that these things don’t happen, you might really believe they don’t exist.

Being able to turn a blind eye to things that don’t happen to you is the essence of privilege. It’s also an abuse of power. Again, this might not be active. You might not realize that this is what’s happening. You’re not a bad guy. You’ve just been given some incomplete information. […]

You are not taking someone else’s reporting of their own, lived experience as accurate.

As hard as it may be to accept this, you may not take these reports as accurate because other people, who look like you, have told you that these things are not true, and whether or not you want to believe it, you might have been programmed with a bias toward taking things that white men say as more accurate than things anyone else says. You might not know you’re doing this. If you really were to think about it, you’d find the idea appalling. And yet, you are not taking these reports as accurate. Why?

Or, perhaps, because these things do not happen to you, you refuse to believe that it could or would happen to others.

This is the essence of your privilege. …

You, my white male friend, occupy the highest social, economic and political position in our country.

And, let’s be real, that position was begotten unfairly.

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/09/to_my_wh...socialflow

(12-12-2014 02:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

You thought the same thing I did. But this wasn't in the United States. Weak.

I know it's not the US, it's Mexico. Just countering Fit's point about whites owning slaves while he pretends to be a slave virgin.

Interesting how all students that sign up for this class have to be screened and personally approved by Outlaw. Nope, no diversity of thought welcomed there.

(12-12-2014 02:42 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Salon Liberal To Her White Male Friends: You Guys Are Racist And You Don’t Realize It Because Of Your White Privilege…



The woman claims she’s against stereotyping… while she stereotypes white men.

THAT'S A WOMAN????

(12-12-2014 02:50 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Interesting how all students that sign up for this class have to be screened and personally approved by Outlaw. Nope, no diversity of thought welcomed there.

I'm curious to know what she's looking for in each of them.

(12-12-2014 02:42 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Salon Liberal To Her White Male Friends: You Guys Are Racist And You Don’t Realize It Because Of Your White Privilege…



The woman claims she’s against stereotyping… while she stereotypes white men.

Quote: Because some of these forms of injustice don’t happen to you, and the history you learned in school, and what you hear from a lot of the media, and from other white men, is that these things don’t happen, you might really believe they don’t exist.

Being able to turn a blind eye to things that don’t happen to you is the essence of privilege. It’s also an abuse of power. Again, this might not be active. You might not realize that this is what’s happening. You’re not a bad guy. You’ve just been given some incomplete information. […]

You are not taking someone else’s reporting of their own, lived experience as accurate.

As hard as it may be to accept this, you may not take these reports as accurate because other people, who look like you, have told you that these things are not true, and whether or not you want to believe it, you might have been programmed with a bias toward taking things that white men say as more accurate than things anyone else says. You might not know you’re doing this. If you really were to think about it, you’d find the idea appalling. And yet, you are not taking these reports as accurate. Why?

Or, perhaps, because these things do not happen to you, you refuse to believe that it could or would happen to others.

This is the essence of your privilege. …

You, my white male friend, occupy the highest social, economic and political position in our country.

And, let’s be real, that position was begotten unfairly.

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/09/to_my_wh...socialflow

Hahahahaha. Wow, that didn't take long at all did it?

It would appear, according to this dunderhead anyway, that "White" privilege has now magically and mystically morphed into "White MALE" privilege. Say it ain't so!

Who couldn't see this one coming? haha, too predictable.

I'll be sure to tell my wife, once she's out of the laundry room and done with dinner and dishes, that's she and her whitey privilege is in the clear!

I'm sure she'll be quite relieved, as wracked with the guilt of it all as she has been.

(12-12-2014 02:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

While that is true, who sold those slaves to western slave traders? So, you must also say that black people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries.

While I get your overarching, and important point, "white" people (and a bunch of others) enslaved blacks in the United States for about 80+ years. And that's not really a "technicality".

(12-12-2014 02:47 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:32 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  You thought the same thing I did. But this wasn't in the United States. Weak.

I know it's not the US, it's Mexico. Just countering Fit's point about whites owning slaves while he pretends to be a slave virgin.

I get it. I meant fit's point was weak. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

you could also say that blacks in Africa have enslaved other blacks in Africa for thousands of years, and that would be factual as well.

However, today it is different. Americans be they black, hispanic, Indian, Asian or white - all have the opportunity to do with theirs lives what they choose and there really aren't any formal or informal policies in place that favor one group over another.

Any individual of these groups can have success or failure on their own merits.

There really aren't that many places in the world where that is true which is why there are still many folks from all over the globe that want to come here and live.

Those from other countries come here for the opportunity - they don't demand equal outcomes. The demand for equal outcomes is only heard from those living here that don't want to put the time and effort in to be successful or to excuse why they have failed.

(12-12-2014 02:53 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:50 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Interesting how all students that sign up for this class have to be screened and personally approved by Outlaw. Nope, no diversity of thought welcomed there.

I'm curious to know what she's looking for in each of them.

Someone that agrees with her.

(12-12-2014 02:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

Mexico never had slavery

(12-12-2014 04:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:23 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:18 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(12-12-2014 02:16 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm the one who asked the question.

Name one thing I can do that you can't because of our race makeup.

Well if you are white, you can say that your race of people enslaved blacks in the United States for over 2 centuries. I can't.

Yes you can.

Afro-Mexicans (Spanish: afromexicanos; negros; afrodescendientes)[1] are Mexicans of African descent.[2][3] Also known as Black Mexicans,[3] they are an ethnic group made up of recent immigrants of African descent to Mexico and the descendants of slaves,[2] such as in the communities of the Costa Chica of Oaxaca and Guerrero, Veracruz and in some cities in northern Mexico. The history of blacks in Mexico has been lesser known for a number of reasons: their relatively small numbers, regular intermarriage with other ethnic groups, and Mexico’s tradition of defining itself as a “mestizaje” or mixing culture.

Mexico had an active slave trade since the early colonial period and an estimated 200,000 Africans were brought there. From the beginning, the slaves, who were mostly male, intermarried with indigenous women. In some cases Spanish colonists had unions with female slaves. Spanish colonists created an elaborate racial caste system, classifying people by racial mixture. This system broke down in the very late colonial period; after Independence, the legal notion of race was eliminated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Mexican

The historical record, of course, tells another story. In the sixteenth century, New Spain--as Mexico was then called--probably had more enslaved Africans than any other colony in the Western Hemisphere. Blacks were present as slaves of the Spaniards as early as the 1520s. Over the approximately three hundred years it lasted, the slave trade brought about 200,000 Africans to the colony. Many blacks were born in Mexico and followed their parents into slavery. Not until 1829 was the institution abolished by the leaders of the newly independent nation.

http://smithsonianeducation.org/migratio...lmleg.html

The largest number of Africans arrived in the Mexican territory during the three hundred years of the colonial period, 1521-1821. It is estimated that approximately 200,000 Africans were brought into present-day Mexico during this period. Africans came as slaves, forced to leave their homes and work for the Spanish colonists on their sugar estates, in silver mines, and as domestic servants.

http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/te...ivity1.php

Mexico never had slavery

Dude, not only did Mexico have slavery, it still does.