No faith in Dear Leader.

Quote: A new poll says President Obama has solid public support for his counter-terrorism plan against the Islamic State, but faces doubts as to whether it will destroy the militant group.

The NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg survey reports that 62% of voters support the decision to take action against the Islamic State, which controls large swaths of Syria and Iraq and threatens U.S. interests.

The poll also says that 68% have “very little” or “just some” confidence that the plan will accomplish its goals to degrade and destroy the militants.

“The bottom line: The president has made his case to the American public, and like other presidents who faced war and peace issues, support usually follows,” said Democratic pollster Peter Hart, reports NBC. “The difference in this military encounter is that, right out of the box, Americans are skeptical if this will work.”

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/20.../15623655/

I think it's unfair to expect him to destroy ISIS. Besides it would get replaced by something else.

However, I think more people should be asking why is it his job to get involved? Frankly, he actually was doing the right thing when he was avoiding the issue. It's not his.

He would rather have a campfire marshmallow roast summit with Them.

That's because you can't destroy an ideology we helped to create in the first place.

The middle east doesn't want our freedom, they don't want our democracy exported to them.

Why would this surprise anyone anymore? He's failed at damn near everything else he's tried outside of campaigning.

A failed presidency, really. Even hearing that from some of the leftists that pollute the television shows on occasion.

Bipartican support for Obama's plan

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/15/poll-bip...plan-isis/

President Obama’s outline plan for military action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is drawing rare display of bipartisan supports, in which majorities of both Republicans (64%) and Democrats (60%) approve of the president’s plan, according to a PEW Research survey published on Monday.

(09-16-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Bipartican support for Obama's plan

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/15/poll-bip...plan-isis/

President Obama’s outline plan for military action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is drawing rare display of bipartisan supports, in which majorities of both Republicans (64%) and Democrats (60%) approve of the president’s plan, according to a PEW Research survey published on Monday.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-703596-post-111...id11126075

(09-16-2014 12:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  That's because you can't destroy an ideology we helped to create in the first place.

The middle east doesn't want our freedom, they don't want our democracy exported to them.

True. Funny that most of the leftists are so bigoted they don't understand this.

(09-16-2014 01:21 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 12:46 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  That's because you can't destroy an ideology we helped to create in the first place.

The middle east doesn't want our freedom, they don't want our democracy exported to them.

True. Funny that most of the leftists are so bigoted they don't understand this.

It is something that I have always believed and have said on this forum many times.

I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

(09-16-2014 01:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

Yes, seriously. The people around him are even less competent. The capacity for this administration to govern is at a historical low. They are clueless ideologues.

Confidence in the United States around the world is at an all time low.

Are we talking about Bush or did that insult you somehow? Dude, don't tie your little feelings to a politician. You'll end up with your feelings hurt all the time.

(09-16-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Bipartican support for Obama's plan

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/15/poll-bip...plan-isis/

President Obama’s outline plan for military action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is drawing rare display of bipartisan supports, in which majorities of both Republicans (64%) and Democrats (60%) approve of the president’s plan, according to a PEW Research survey published on Monday.

So?

Yet, again, Fit the supposed "Teacher" doesn't understand the topic.

You could have 100% of support for his plan and so what? 70% of those same people have little to NO faith in the illustrated leaderfrombehinders ability to carry it out successfully.

Try to follow along, mmmkay?

(09-16-2014 01:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Bipartican support for Obama's plan

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/15/poll-bip...plan-isis/

President Obama’s outline plan for military action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is drawing rare display of bipartisan supports, in which majorities of both Republicans (64%) and Democrats (60%) approve of the president’s plan, according to a PEW Research survey published on Monday.

So?

Yet, again, Fit the supposed "Teacher" doesn't understand the topic.

You could have 100% of support for his plan and so what? 70% of those same people have little to NO faith in the illustrated leaderfrombehinders ability to carry it out successfully.

Try to follow along, mmmkay?

Don't kill the messenger. I'm just giving additional information.

I can't help it if you are from the side that hates facts.

(09-16-2014 01:31 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:30 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Bipartican support for Obama's plan

http://jpupdates.com/2014/09/15/poll-bip...plan-isis/

President Obama’s outline plan for military action against ISIS in Iraq and Syria is drawing rare display of bipartisan supports, in which majorities of both Republicans (64%) and Democrats (60%) approve of the president’s plan, according to a PEW Research survey published on Monday.

So?

Yet, again, Fit the supposed "Teacher" doesn't understand the topic.

You could have 100% of support for his plan and so what? 70% of those same people have little to NO faith in the illustrated leaderfrombehinders ability to carry it out successfully.

Try to follow along, mmmkay?

Don't kill the messenger. I'm just giving additional information.

I can't help it if you are from the side that hates facts.

lol. What?

What facts do I hate?

I simply pointed out that, yet again, your "contribution" was irrelevant and not germane (I'll give you a moment to go look that one up) to the issue being discussed.

But, whatev's. Post whatever you want.

His knack for failure is exceptional. If they let the military handle it would have
a much higher chance of success.
However, radicals need to be eliminated altogether. The world, virtually, would have to
all be involved at the same time with the same goal. Not going to happen.

(09-16-2014 01:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

Yes, seriously. The people around him are even less competent. The capacity for this administration to govern is at a historical low. They are clueless ideologues.

Confidence in the United States around the world is at an all time low.

Are we talking about Bush or did that insult you somehow? Dude, don't tie your little feelings to a politician. You'll end up with your feelings hurt all the time.

My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just comparing Obama to our last president. If you think Obama is incompetent then you must have thought Bush was a vegetable.

(09-16-2014 03:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

Yes, seriously. The people around him are even less competent. The capacity for this administration to govern is at a historical low. They are clueless ideologues.

Confidence in the United States around the world is at an all time low.

Are we talking about Bush or did that insult you somehow? Dude, don't tie your little feelings to a politician. You'll end up with your feelings hurt all the time.

My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just comparing Obama to our last president. If you think Obama is incompetent then you must have thought Bush was a vegetable.

Say what you will. Bush was a stronger leader. He had the respect of several nations.

(09-16-2014 03:57 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 03:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

Yes, seriously. The people around him are even less competent. The capacity for this administration to govern is at a historical low. They are clueless ideologues.

Confidence in the United States around the world is at an all time low.

Are we talking about Bush or did that insult you somehow? Dude, don't tie your little feelings to a politician. You'll end up with your feelings hurt all the time.

My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just comparing Obama to our last president. If you think Obama is incompetent then you must have thought Bush was a vegetable.

Say what you will. Bush was a stronger leader. He had the respect of several nations.

^^^This.

It really says something when countries that have been attacked by or are in line for attack like Turkey, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia aren't sure about the coalition. Even the UK and Germany have signaled hesitation. But, at least we have Albania on board!!

(09-16-2014 03:57 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 03:55 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:29 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:26 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-16-2014 01:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I don't believe Obama is capable of governing effectively period. I think he is utterly incompetent.

Seriously? Utterly incompetent? Even if that were true he has smart people around him to help him.

At least that is what everyone said about Bush.

Yes, seriously. The people around him are even less competent. The capacity for this administration to govern is at a historical low. They are clueless ideologues.

Confidence in the United States around the world is at an all time low.

Are we talking about Bush or did that insult you somehow? Dude, don't tie your little feelings to a politician. You'll end up with your feelings hurt all the time.

My feelings aren't hurt. I'm just comparing Obama to our last president. If you think Obama is incompetent then you must have thought Bush was a vegetable.

Say what you will. Bush was a stronger leader. He had the respect of several nations.

wow