The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

(08-15-2014 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How do you know it's him?

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His buddy confirmed it was them.

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

(08-15-2014 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How do you know it's him?

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His buddy confirmed it was them.

What do you think he was offered, to go ahead and tell the people?

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

It's sad but you're right.

It's all about getting viewers and less about informing people so they can decide for themselves.

Got the bubble-headed bleach-blond, comes on at 5. She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye. it's interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry.

(08-15-2014 03:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

It's sad but you're right.

It's all about getting viewers and less about informing people so they can decide for themselves.

That's why we're so politically split. In my opinion anyways... What the other side says will ALWAYS be bullshart.

(08-15-2014 03:34 PM)Smaug Wrote:  Got the bubble-headed bleach-blond, comes on at 5. She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye. it's interesting when people die, give us dirty laundry.

Sad but true...

Local anchors on Channel 12, last night, were talking about how they have freedom of press too, but when the cops tell them to move or leave, they have no choice but to respect what they're told because we should understand that they're aware of the situation and what could happen if something goes wrong.

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How do you know it's him?

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His buddy confirmed it was them.

What do you think he was offered, to go ahead and tell the people?

I wonder if he was advised to admit to it by a lawyer if it'd help with any jail time, probation, etc., or if it would make his testimony credible.

Cause he did lose his friend.. What if what he says happened is true? His friend is dead and now they have proof they committed a crime, how are you going to honor your slain friend if now people think you're a thief and liar. Just because he stole, doesn't mean he lied about what happened. That's why I want to see what the autopsy showed.

(08-15-2014 03:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

It's sad but you're right.

It's all about getting viewers and less about informing people so they can decide for themselves.

And, don't forget about adding the liberal skew.

What is basically "a cop shooting an unarmed (but 6'3 300lb) young man that is the prime suspect in a buglary/robbery" turns into "a racist police force guns down a black unarmed kid before he goes to college". The story should be "a day of peaceful protests turn violent with looting and rioting, police use pepper spray and rubber bullets to defend businesses and bystanders" turns into "peaceful protesters indiscriminately fired on by militarized police while emulating Michael Brown by raising their hands and screaming they are unarmed; journalists arrested in violation of first amendment".

How does this change what happened when he was killed?

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(08-15-2014 03:44 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

It's sad but you're right.

It's all about getting viewers and less about informing people so they can decide for themselves.

And, don't forget about adding the liberal skew.

What is basically "a cop shooting an unarmed (but 6'3 300lb) young man that is the prime suspect in a buglary/robbery" turns into "a racist police force guns down a black unarmed kid before he goes to college". The story should be "a day of peaceful protests turn violent with looting and rioting, police use pepper spray and rubber bullets to defend businesses and bystanders" turns into "peaceful protesters indiscriminately fired on by militarized police while emulating Michael Brown by raising their hands and screaming they are unarmed; journalists arrested in violation of first amendment".

You're right.

I think this highlights the war going on in the media about how things are being presented.

(08-15-2014 03:44 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:26 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 12:36 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How do you know it's him?

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His buddy confirmed it was them.

What do you think he was offered, to go ahead and tell the people?

I wonder if he was advised to admit to it by a lawyer if it'd help with any jail time, probation, etc., or if it would make his testimony credible.

Cause he did lose his friend.. What if what he says happened is true? His friend is dead and now they have proof they committed a crime, how are you going to honor your slain friend if now people think you're a thief and liar. Just because he stole, doesn't mean he lied about what happened. That's why I want to see what the autopsy showed.

This is true, but the story he tells is so far-fetched, and the fact that he is indeed a criminal is going to knock his credibility down many levels.

(08-15-2014 03:46 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:44 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:31 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:29 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 03:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The media has flamed this thing beyond all reason. They aren't being responsible.

Let things shake out and let's not try to convict people like a giant lynch mob.

That's their job... Journalism isn't a real job anymore, it's purpose is simply to take a situation and insert as much drama as possible... Journalists of today have become the paparazzi of the 90's...

It's sad but you're right.

It's all about getting viewers and less about informing people so they can decide for themselves.

And, don't forget about adding the liberal skew.

What is basically "a cop shooting an unarmed (but 6'3 300lb) young man that is the prime suspect in a buglary/robbery" turns into "a racist police force guns down a black unarmed kid before he goes to college". The story should be "a day of peaceful protests turn violent with looting and rioting, police use pepper spray and rubber bullets to defend businesses and bystanders" turns into "peaceful protesters indiscriminately fired on by militarized police while emulating Michael Brown by raising their hands and screaming they are unarmed; journalists arrested in violation of first amendment".

You're right.

I think this highlights the war going on in the media about how things are being presented.

Absolutely. This story should have been contained inside the St. Louis area until investigations were complete. If that was the case, which it should have been and would have been 10 years ago, then we would have had to hear about this from either DaSaintFan or gdunn...

How do you blame the media? The riots and looting is what started this.

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(08-15-2014 09:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Witnesses say he shot him once in the back and then Brown turned with his hands up and then the cop shot him some more.

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Yep.

(08-15-2014 10:28 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  So the kid was walking away and then got shot in the back? then he spun around raised his hands saying he wasn't armed.. and was shot again... Come on..

My guess:

Mr. Brown was under suspicion for the robbery charge. (again, that's what's going on)
Got in a scuffle at the car with the officer
Tried to grab the gun... (rumoured shot in the officer's car?) but failed IF there was a shot in the car, that I'm not sure of
Ran.. officer shot at him. Hit him in the back
Brown was spun around, and the second shot hit him

I'd by that more than I would about him getting shot in the back and then raising his hands and turning around saying "I don't have a gun!".

That's if he was shot in the back. (anyone seeing a report that says he was? I know the reports have said he was shot multiple times)

And you'd be wrong. There was an eyewitness.

Speculation by the media is terrible.

(08-15-2014 03:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How do you blame the media? The riots and looting is what started this.

One of the very few comments you've made about this that makes sense and doesn't discriminate. And you're right, thanks for setting me straight. But the millions and millions of angry Americans is the fault of the media that eeked this out. No denying that.

(08-15-2014 04:17 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(08-15-2014 10:28 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  So the kid was walking away and then got shot in the back? then he spun around raised his hands saying he wasn't armed.. and was shot again... Come on..

My guess:

Mr. Brown was under suspicion for the robbery charge. (again, that's what's going on)
Got in a scuffle at the car with the officer
Tried to grab the gun... (rumoured shot in the officer's car?) but failed IF there was a shot in the car, that I'm not sure of
Ran.. officer shot at him. Hit him in the back
Brown was spun around, and the second shot hit him

I'd by that more than I would about him getting shot in the back and then raising his hands and turning around saying "I don't have a gun!".

That's if he was shot in the back. (anyone seeing a report that says he was? I know the reports have said he was shot multiple times)

And you'd be wrong. There was an eyewitness.

But is it possible the eyewitness only saw the bolded part, and not the struggle for a weapon in/near the squad car, if that part happened? It might've been the noise of the first gun shot that turned heads.

I honestly don't know - just throwing it out there.