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RE: Historically Conservatives are wrong.
(05-19-2014 10:37 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 10:30 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 10:26 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
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(05-19-2014 10:18 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The very nature of conservatism is to attempt to keep things as they are but you can't stop progress.

So Conservatives are always going to be on the wrong side of history.

But that assumes that all "progress" is good. We've been around thousands of years. If all "progress" were good, we'd be living in Nirvana by now. And we're not. So I'm guessing that all that "progress" isn't a good thing.

This is true. All progress is not good but intelligent people learn from their mistakes and move on.

You don't get very far when you decide that a country has gone far enough and your solution is to try and stop time and live in the 1950's.

or the 1850's 05-stirthepot

Do you actually think you are making valid points? 05-stirthepot

At least it's not another race thread. 05-stirthepot
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RE: Historically Conservatives are wrong.
(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

Name this country where modern (Americanized) conservatism is in effect and working.
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This thread is pure, comedy, gold.

jonnyzerO please, by all means, keep dropping your 4/11 "knowledge" on all if us. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
05-19-2014 12:13 PM
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(05-19-2014 10:18 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The very nature of conservatism is to attempt to keep things as they are but you can't stop progress.

So Conservatives are always going to be on the wrong side of history.

But not on the wrong side of Justice or Liberty... You're assuming all progression is good! That is as faulty an assumption as all conservation being bad/good.

I've seen this before "History will judge you"...

It's a 100% truism but it's relevance assumes (1) History is always recorded correctly and (2) all change is is good.
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(05-19-2014 11:21 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 09:19 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  LULZ... Internet memes.

Cons only bash 'em when they don't agree with them, eh?

Oh do I have it all wrong? Am I only supposed to bash em if I DO agree with em?
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(05-19-2014 11:20 AM)john01992 Wrote:  lets see:

today you have your conservative, more religious party, that wants to block gay rights & womens rights. mostly located in the south they push for smaller govt, more states rights, and actively look for ways to weaken the federal govt or lower its total $$$$. Oh and they are hell bent on lower taxes.

Does that sound anything like the conservatives of the 1860s??????

to anything BUT a conservative political hick ==> it wouldn't.

Did you really just say that? I just wanna know where you guys come up with this whole "women's rights" thing, because I've NEVER seen or heard a story where a Conservative wanted to hold back the rights of a woman, and furthermore, the rights of a homo... I'll wait for an answer.
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(05-19-2014 12:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:21 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 09:19 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  LULZ... Internet memes.

Cons only bash 'em when they don't agree with them, eh?

Oh do I have it all wrong? Am I only supposed to bash em if I DO agree with em?

Just callin' out your hypocrisy brother. 04-cheers04-rock
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(05-19-2014 11:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  if you don't want to call it civil rights, fine. however you have to be a total dumb*** to not see the connection or progression of rights for minorities from slavery to the civil rights era.

John, the Civil War had nothing to do with civil rights. The Civil Rights Movement didn't start until the mid 1950's and peaked 100 years AFTER the Civil War was over. Just like racism, "civil rights" were unheard of in the 1860's. Those terms weren't familiar or relative back then.
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Rather be wrong for the right reason than
right for the wrong reason. I think.
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(05-19-2014 12:33 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 12:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:21 AM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 09:19 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  LULZ... Internet memes.

Cons only bash 'em when they don't agree with them, eh?

Oh do I have it all wrong? Am I only supposed to bash em if I DO agree with em?

Just callin' out your hypocrisy brother. 04-cheers04-rock

I post my own for comedy, home skillet. I was laughing at this one in the OP, nothing hypocritical about that. Keep rocking homie
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John hates the south. Never been there, but hates it.

Reminds me of being in the Staten Island Mall in 2006. I had an Abita Beer Pub Crawl shirt from July of that year. It had the date and the location was several bars in New Orleans. I had a woman read me the riot act because the shirt wasn't funny. I said ma'am is it because it was a pub crawl and we drank ourselves silly and you don't believe in drinking. She said no it's because you act like New Orleans is fine, but I saw on CNN that New Orleans was destroyed in that Hurricane. You making light of it is just bad taste.

Try as I may to let her know I had been in New Orleans just a week prior and it was fine, I couldn't compete with the media.

In this story, John would be the woman. Only believes what he sees on the tv.
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(05-19-2014 12:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  John hates the south. Never been there, but hates it.

Reminds me of being in the Staten Island Mall in 2006. I had an Abita Beer Pub Crawl shirt from July of that year. It had the date and the location was several bars in New Orleans. I had a woman read me the riot act because the shirt wasn't funny. I said ma'am is it because it was a pub crawl and we drank ourselves silly and you don't believe in drinking. She said no it's because you act like New Orleans is fine, but I saw on CNN that New Orleans was destroyed in that Hurricane. You making light of it is just bad taste.

Try as I may to let her know I had been in New Orleans just a week prior and it was fine, I couldn't compete with the media.

In this story, John would be the woman. Only believes what he sees on the tv.

Kinda unrelated....but do people not familiar with say the state of Wiscompton think the whole state is essentially one large dairy farm with a bunch of pudgy white people everywhere? I always sense an e-vibe that a lot of people love them some stereotypes without actually ever been in said place whether it'd be the South, Southern Plains (aka Oklahoma), Wisconsin etc. (END RANT)
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(05-19-2014 09:17 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 09:16 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 09:12 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  I've been saying pretty much the same thing for years on this board.

I've been pointing your for years that you're ignorant. Guess you like to see me be right. 05-stirthepot

Man, nobody pays you any attention anymore Torchy. C'mon, you know that! 05-stirthepot

But really though.... 05-stirthepot
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(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

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(05-19-2014 01:03 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

01-wingedeagle

Might I suggest you actually educate yourself on the history of the two ideologies. 01-wingedeagle
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(05-19-2014 01:15 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 01:03 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

01-wingedeagle

Might I suggest you actually educate yourself on the history of the two ideologies. 01-wingedeagle

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(05-19-2014 01:15 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 01:03 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

01-wingedeagle

Might I suggest you actually educate yourself on the history of the two ideologies. 01-wingedeagle

Guys, listen up....I think the resident geographer is about to spit some mad ejumacation up in here.
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I can't wait. Teach us okla, teach us~!
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(05-19-2014 01:29 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 01:15 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 01:03 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(05-19-2014 11:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  John, conservatism is the only known ideology that works. Modern liberalism or the progressive movement is based on a failed ideology going back almost 800 years. Period.

01-wingedeagle

Might I suggest you actually educate yourself on the history of the two ideologies. 01-wingedeagle

Guys, listen up....I think the resident geographer is about to spit some mad ejumacation up in here.

Go back to your hole Kroger. No one is interested in what this weeks specials are on produce.
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(05-19-2014 01:31 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  I can't wait. Teach us okla, teach us~!

You surely don't have any knowledge on the matter. I made a statement about conservatism. Prove it wrong. I'm not holding much confidence in your ability.
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