I've never heard of Grambling.

(05-16-2014 07:00 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  I've never heard of Grambling.

Me neither.

Grambling is an HBCU. They are pretty well known for their marching band.

(05-16-2014 05:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 11:23 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  Latechs women's basketball is what makes them more known than you. Plus only time people see Tulane on espn is in bottom 10 rankings

Dude, Tulane is a nationally pretty famous university. Not Harvard-level famous but still, just about everyone has heard of Tulane.

In contrast, few outside of Louisiana have ever heard of LA-Tech. Nice school, but your level of national awareness is far below that of Tulane.

In terms of national awareness, the only Louisiana schools that register are:

1) LSU
2) Tulane
3) Grambling

Before any of this turns into a LA Tech-bashing or "who's ever heard of po-dunk Ruston" or "go back to the CUSA board where 'you' belong" session...RustonCat is an Arkansas State (Sun Belt) guy that resides in Ruston, LA. No more, no less. He is NOT a Louisiana Tech fan.

(05-16-2014 08:36 AM)chuckk3 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 05:12 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 11:23 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  Latechs women's basketball is what makes them more known than you. Plus only time people see Tulane on espn is in bottom 10 rankings

Dude, Tulane is a nationally pretty famous university. Not Harvard-level famous but still, just about everyone has heard of Tulane.

In contrast, few outside of Louisiana have ever heard of LA-Tech. Nice school, but your level of national awareness is far below that of Tulane.

In terms of national awareness, the only Louisiana schools that register are:

1) LSU
2) Tulane
3) Grambling

Before any of this turns into a LA Tech-bashing or "who's ever heard of po-dunk Ruston" or "go back to the CUSA board where 'you' belong" session...RustonCat is an Arkansas State (Sun Belt) guy that resides in Ruston, LA. No more, no less. He is NOT a Louisiana Tech fan.

No worries. We have some "UCONN posers" on here as well. Connecticut residents know LaTech for its great achievements in women's basketball. Your school played a key role in developing the sport.

UMASS isn't going to the sunbelt. Looks like the conference is staying at 11.

(05-16-2014 07:29 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 07:00 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  I've never heard of Grambling.

Me neither.

You guys must be kind of young not to at least have heard of Grambling.

Grambling's coach Eddie Robinson was one of the longest tenured and all times wins leader in college football's history. Joe Paterno eventually broke Robinson's record.

Grambling has had over 100 players play in the NFL, including James Harris of the L.A. Rams, who was amongst the NFL's first black quarterbacks; Doug Williams of the Tampa Bay Bucanners and Washington Redskins, who was was the first black quarterback to be on a Superbowl winner and then there are all time NFL greats like Charlier Joiner, Willie Davis and Willie Brown, Sammy White,etc.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/sc...amblingst/

(05-15-2014 11:23 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:08 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:06 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:14 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:01 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Yup. There is a lot to work on before an invite is considered. Luckily I think they can really build up their football program/facilities as a result of playing in a predominantly Southern football conference, where football is king. It's gonna take some time though.

I guess, but the Sun Belt is an absolute mess. No one outside of the given programs care or can even name the Sun Belt schools. I mean CUSA is a bad the Sun Belt is next level awful. The stands at Gillette will be comical.

They have a $600mm endowment in one of the richest stats, just either get the OCS done or go back to FCS. I don;t know how playing in the Sun Belt is really going to build anything.

You do have a point
Ask any person to name Louisiana colleges there answer will be: 1. LSU 2. Is a toss up ULL or Louisiana tech. Not poor little Tulane. To clarify that a CUSA and a Belt team in front of you Tulane.

Most people also know of the success at Arkansas state.

Outside of those 2 the sun belt is a joke!

Did you just try to say that more people nationally know about La Tech and ULL over Tulane? Holy christ, the internet strikes again.
I would say about 5% of people (or less) could tell you what city or conference La Tech is in and less than 1% could find Ruston on a map. Go back to the CUSA boards and stop wasting our time here.

Latechs women's basketball is what makes them more known than you. Plus only time people see Tulane on espn is in bottom 10 rankings

But that's not my point. SBC will be okay. AppSt has been on most conferences move up list. South Alabama is a school with a lot of potential. Arkansas state has been the flagship for 3 years and is becoming a well known school because of its success with coaches. Louisiana Lafeyette is also becoming more known. Latech isn't Tulanes biggest threat now it's ULL.

Women's BBall, oh you are just too cute.

Tulane has not lost a recruit to ULL or La Tech in 2-3 years, despite the fact that we are terrible. CUSA is a hot mess, Rice and Southern Miss fans are on suicide watch. As for the Sun Belt, good god is is bad. No one and I mean no one nationally cares about CUSA and the SB, hell they barely care about the AAC and this conference is on another planet vs the SB.

Please just stop. the vast majority of American's know about Tulane, like I said only a tiny fraction of folks could locate Ruston or Lafayette on a map. You are embarrassing yourself.

(05-16-2014 01:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 07:29 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 07:00 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  I've never heard of Grambling.

Me neither.

You guys must be kind of young not to at least have heard of Grambling.

Grambling's coach Eddie Robinson was one of the longest tenured and all times wins leader in college football's history. Joe Paterno eventually broke Robinson's record.

Grambling has had over 100 players play in the NFL, including James Harris of the L.A. Rams, who was amongst the NFL's first black quarterbacks; Doug Williams of the Tampa Bay Bucanners and Washington Redskins, who was was the first black quarterback to be on a Superbowl winner and then there are all time NFL greats like Charlier Joiner, Willie Davis and Willie Brown, Sammy White,etc.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/sc...amblingst/

I'm in my early 30's, grew up in New England and know Grambling because of the game they play against Southern each year and to a lesser extent Robinson. I thought people were joking when they said they never heard of it, though their athletics are a mess right now.

SBC is not adding UMass. Well at least ASU has made it known we don't support the move. Which means UALR will say no and ULL wont be far behind.

I think we'll stay at 11...but I never count out Liberty in anything.

I honestly feel bad for them if they can't get an invite to the SBU. They are in a bad situation though. A10 is an upper level hoops league primarily on the east coast. UMass is an aspiring hoops program with some historical success and there is no question the A10 is by far the best option for them for non FB sports. However, football needs a home and it looks like FBS conferences are going to force them to go all in if they want to play FB. Tough stuff. None of the G5 outside of the AAC and MWC are even remotely prominent in hoops. I really do want to have another public state flagship FBS program in New England. Hope they get it figured out.

(05-16-2014 02:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I honestly feel bad for them if they can't get an invite to the SBU. They are in a bad situation though. A10 is an upper level hoops league primarily on the east coast. UMass is an aspiring hoops program with some historical success and there is no question the A10 is by far the best option for them for non FB sports. However, football needs a home and it looks like FBS conferences are going to force them to go all in if they want to play FB. Tough stuff. None of the G5 outside of the AAC and MWC are even remotely prominent in hoops. I really do want to have another public state flagship FBS program in New England. Hope they get it figured out.

Ya, there OCS has no BATHROOMS!!!! So, that's sort of a weak statement on their part. I simply don;t understand why they don;t pony up for a $75mm 35k OCS, MA politics at play.

(05-16-2014 02:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I honestly feel bad for them if they can't get an invite to the SBU. They are in a bad situation though. A10 is an upper level hoops league primarily on the east coast. UMass is an aspiring hoops program with some historical success and there is no question the A10 is by far the best option for them for non FB sports. However, football needs a home and it looks like FBS conferences are going to force them to go all in if they want to play FB. Tough stuff. None of the G5 outside of the AAC and MWC are even remotely prominent in hoops. I really do want to have another public state flagship FBS program in New England. Hope they get it figured out.

I don't feel bad for them. They need to get some cash together to build a real football stadium, at which point the AAC would probably be listening. UMass can still go indy or back to FCS, but if they want to be in the AAC then they need to stop playing it cheap.

UMass's endowment is pretty significant, they have alums with $. They just don't seem to spend it on football, at least not yet but that can change. Their Ice Hockey program is pretty good too. Not that that would interest most conferences.

I'll say it once more... UMass needs to discontinue their FB program. End of story.

(05-14-2014 11:06 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:14 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:01 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 02:58 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 02:49 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  no this is not a charity case.
if you haven't noticed, landscape of college FB changes every couple yrs.
name another school in eastern half of US that has the potential to bring a TV market of 7 million.
bring down SOS, have you looked at your sch

But you don't understand, they have no potential until they offer some solution to their FBall situation, none. Until then, they are going no where. They break ground on a 35k expandable OCS, then we can talk. Until then why can't people just stop. They currently play about 2 hrs from campus and have an OCS WITH NO BATHROOMS!!!!!!

Yup. There is a lot to work on before an invite is considered. Luckily I think they can really build up their football program/facilities as a result of playing in a predominantly Southern football conference, where football is king. It's gonna take some time though.

I guess, but the Sun Belt is an absolute mess. No one outside of the given programs care or can even name the Sun Belt schools. I mean CUSA is a bad the Sun Belt is next level awful. The stands at Gillette will be comical.

They have a $600mm endowment in one of the richest stats, just either get the OCS done or go back to FCS. I don;t know how playing in the Sun Belt is really going to build anything.

You do have a point
Ask any person to name Louisiana colleges there answer will be: 1. LSU 2. Is a toss up ULL or Louisiana tech. Not poor little Tulane. To clarify that a CUSA and a Belt team in front of you Tulane.

Most people also know of the success at Arkansas state.

Outside of those 2 the sun belt is a joke!

Sure dude. ULL is coming on but let's get real here. There is a reason the aac picked tulane over ULL and LA tech.

(05-15-2014 11:23 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(05-15-2014 09:08 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:06 PM)RustonCAT Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:14 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:01 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Yup. There is a lot to work on before an invite is considered. Luckily I think they can really build up their football program/facilities as a result of playing in a predominantly Southern football conference, where football is king. It's gonna take some time though.

I guess, but the Sun Belt is an absolute mess. No one outside of the given programs care or can even name the Sun Belt schools. I mean CUSA is a bad the Sun Belt is next level awful. The stands at Gillette will be comical.

They have a $600mm endowment in one of the richest stats, just either get the OCS done or go back to FCS. I don;t know how playing in the Sun Belt is really going to build anything.

You do have a point
Ask any person to name Louisiana colleges there answer will be: 1. LSU 2. Is a toss up ULL or Louisiana tech. Not poor little Tulane. To clarify that a CUSA and a Belt team in front of you Tulane.

Most people also know of the success at Arkansas state.

Outside of those 2 the sun belt is a joke!

Did you just try to say that more people nationally know about La Tech and ULL over Tulane? Holy christ, the internet strikes again.
I would say about 5% of people (or less) could tell you what city or conference La Tech is in and less than 1% could find Ruston on a map. Go back to the CUSA boards and stop wasting our time here.

Latechs women's basketball is what makes them more known than you. Plus only time people see Tulane on espn is in bottom 10 rankings

But that's not my point. SBC will be okay. AppSt has been on most conferences move up list. South Alabama is a school with a lot of potential. Arkansas state has been the flagship for 3 years and is becoming a well known school because of its success with coaches. Louisiana Lafeyette is also becoming more known. Latech isn't Tulanes biggest threat now it's ULL.

UMASS isn't coming to the Sunbelt, they don't have the votes. The Belt is staying at 11 for Football.

(05-16-2014 02:24 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 02:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I honestly feel bad for them if they can't get an invite to the SBU. They are in a bad situation though. A10 is an upper level hoops league primarily on the east coast. UMass is an aspiring hoops program with some historical success and there is no question the A10 is by far the best option for them for non FB sports. However, football needs a home and it looks like FBS conferences are going to force them to go all in if they want to play FB. Tough stuff. None of the G5 outside of the AAC and MWC are even remotely prominent in hoops. I really do want to have another public state flagship FBS program in New England. Hope they get it figured out.

I don't feel bad for them. They need to get some cash together to build a real football stadium, at which point the AAC would probably be listening. UMass can still go indy or back to FCS, but if they want to be in the AAC then they need to stop playing it cheap.

I have a question:

I thought that there was a NCAA rule if you drop Football down, all sports must follow?

(05-18-2014 03:14 PM)lance99 Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 02:24 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 02:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  I honestly feel bad for them if they can't get an invite to the SBU. They are in a bad situation though. A10 is an upper level hoops league primarily on the east coast. UMass is an aspiring hoops program with some historical success and there is no question the A10 is by far the best option for them for non FB sports. However, football needs a home and it looks like FBS conferences are going to force them to go all in if they want to play FB. Tough stuff. None of the G5 outside of the AAC and MWC are even remotely prominent in hoops. I really do want to have another public state flagship FBS program in New England. Hope they get it figured out.

I don't feel bad for them. They need to get some cash together to build a real football stadium, at which point the AAC would probably be listening. UMass can still go indy or back to FCS, but if they want to be in the AAC then they need to stop playing it cheap.

I have a question:

I thought that there was a NCAA rule if you drop Football down, all sports must follow?

FCS schools are still DI. FBS/FCS only exists in football.

(05-16-2014 01:45 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 07:29 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(05-16-2014 07:00 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  I've never heard of Grambling.

Me neither.

You guys must be kind of young not to at least have heard of Grambling.

Grambling's coach Eddie Robinson was one of the longest tenured and all times wins leader in college football's history. Joe Paterno eventually broke Robinson's record.

Grambling has had over 100 players play in the NFL, including James Harris of the L.A. Rams, who was amongst the NFL's first black quarterbacks; Doug Williams of the Tampa Bay Bucanners and Washington Redskins, who was was the first black quarterback to be on a Superbowl winner and then there are all time NFL greats like Charlier Joiner, Willie Davis and Willie Brown, Sammy White,etc.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/sc...amblingst/

Yes, I don't understand how even a young sports fan couldn't have heard of Grambling just through the history of the game.