(03-07-2014 03:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:15 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-04-2014 06:25 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

Not surprising this lowlife scumbucket is into hitting women. His people are putting out some great spin also.

A judge granted an injunction on Tuesday against Congressman Alan Grayson after his estranged wife accused him of shoving her during a confrontation over the weekend.

According to the injunction filed in the Orange County Clerk of Courts, Lolita Grayson said Alan Grayson injured her during an incident at their Windermere home, the Orlando Sentinel reports.

The Orange County Sheriff's Office confirmed with Local 6 that it is currently investigating the domestic violence incident between the Graysons.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/judge-i...index.html

What indication did you have that he hits women?

Yea, he just shoves them around so they know his is a bad ass. The day on this board I defend a conservative for shoving around a woman, then the end of the world is here. You leftists are a pathetic bunch to defend this animal.

Prove it, or continue to be a fraud. Your choice.

There's a 50/50 chance he did.

(03-07-2014 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:37 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And you're so ******* blinded by your partisanship that you can't even read what the hell I typed.

I said "maybe" idiot.

And loving family was cleary said in jest.

And you're also wrong. It wasn't filmed by the daughter.

I didn't know if it was the daughter or not, but she was mentioned in the story... However, is there proof that she wasn't shoved? I mean, it's such a coincidence that the video stayed on a van for about 10 or 12 seconds before it panned over to her pushing him away, and didn't you say there was no sound with the video? If that's the truth, then it's a fishy situation.

Are you seriously asking someone to prove something that didn't happen.

That's like asking someone to prove that Mickey Mouse doesn't exist.

She said she was shoved, is asking for proof that she wasn't shoved something out of the ordinary?

Ummmm, YEAH. Again, you can't prove that something didn't happen!

You guys would suck as investigators as long as the suspect was a leftie...

If she said he shoved her, and he said he's got video that he didn't, and you watch that video, the first thing you'll notice is that there's a critical piece of footage missing just by watching, because he kept the video on the van.

After the missed footage, you'll want to turn the sound up to see if you can hear a thud somewhere between the time she walked out of sight, and the time the lousy camera guy panned over to the altercation.

Sound, paired with critical footage both missing, you can neither prove, nor disprove that he didn't physically shove her as she claims. So, whose side do you take? It's all about the he said she said bullshiit...

(03-07-2014 03:53 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:37 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  I didn't know if it was the daughter or not, but she was mentioned in the story... However, is there proof that she wasn't shoved? I mean, it's such a coincidence that the video stayed on a van for about 10 or 12 seconds before it panned over to her pushing him away, and didn't you say there was no sound with the video? If that's the truth, then it's a fishy situation.

Are you seriously asking someone to prove something that didn't happen.

That's like asking someone to prove that Mickey Mouse doesn't exist.

She said she was shoved, is asking for proof that she wasn't shoved something out of the ordinary?

Ummmm, YEAH. Again, you can't prove that something didn't happen!

You guys would suck as investigators as long as the suspect was a leftie...

If she said he shoved her, and he said he's got video that he didn't, and you watch that video, the first thing you'll notice is that there's a critical piece of footage missing just by watching, because he kept the video on the van.

After the missed footage, you'll want to turn the sound up to see if you can hear a thud somewhere between the time she walked out of sight, and the time the lousy camera guy panned over to the altercation.

Sound, paired with critical footage both missing, you can neither prove, nor disprove that he didn't physically shove her as she claims. So, whose side do you take? It's all about the he said she said bullshiit...

I'm just trying to figure out how someone is supposed to prove something that didn't happen.

I could say that you punched me and then as you to prove that it didn't happen. How on earth are you going to prove that?

(03-07-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:53 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:43 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Are you seriously asking someone to prove something that didn't happen.

That's like asking someone to prove that Mickey Mouse doesn't exist.

She said she was shoved, is asking for proof that she wasn't shoved something out of the ordinary?

Ummmm, YEAH. Again, you can't prove that something didn't happen!

You guys would suck as investigators as long as the suspect was a leftie...

If she said he shoved her, and he said he's got video that he didn't, and you watch that video, the first thing you'll notice is that there's a critical piece of footage missing just by watching, because he kept the video on the van.

After the missed footage, you'll want to turn the sound up to see if you can hear a thud somewhere between the time she walked out of sight, and the time the lousy camera guy panned over to the altercation.

Sound, paired with critical footage both missing, you can neither prove, nor disprove that he didn't physically shove her as she claims. So, whose side do you take? It's all about the he said she said bullshiit...

I'm just trying to figure out how someone is supposed to prove something that didn't happen.

I could say that you punched me and then as you to prove that it didn't happen. How on earth are you going to prove that?

I'll say I wasn't there... Everything is here except the sound and ~10 seconds of footage. What I'm telling you guys is that if she was pushed, it could have happened in the moments that were missing in that video...

You have the estranged wife, you have Grayson, and you have a video phone all in the same place at the same time. Without those three things, you got nothing and we're in agreeance.

What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

(03-07-2014 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

Another sweet, delightful response. Reading is fundamental.

(03-07-2014 04:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

Another sweet, delightful response. Reading is fundamental.

So is wisdom and knowledge.

(03-07-2014 04:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

Another sweet, delightful response. Reading is fundamental.

So is wisdom and knowledge.

Try using it since I haven't made any convictions.

(03-07-2014 04:49 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

Another sweet, delightful response. Reading is fundamental.

So is wisdom and knowledge.

Try using it since I haven't made any convictions.

Likewise for you.

I said you guys...as a generalization. It's not exactly like you've been touting his innocence until proven guilty in your responses.

(03-07-2014 04:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:49 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:32 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 04:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  What if you were there moron?

And you accuse us of only holding a position because of right/left...when you're clearly doing that here.

And again, no one is saying that he is totally innocent. We're only saying we don't know yet. You guys on the other hand have already convicted him of this, and apparently of abuse on other women too, simply because you don't happen to like his politics.

But I'm the partisan. Geez.

Another sweet, delightful response. Reading is fundamental.

So is wisdom and knowledge.

Try using it since I haven't made any convictions.

Likewise for you.

I said you guys...as a generalization. It's not exactly like you've been touting his innocence until proven guilty in your responses.

"You guys" included me... And I'm just looking at it from both angles... I'm not claiming anyones innocence or guilt.

Fair enough.

Yea, that scumbag did it. you can tell by the smug on his disgusting face.

(03-07-2014 02:37 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 02:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 01:02 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(03-06-2014 05:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Well...actually, maybe he didn't do it.

Sounds like a loving family. Yikes!

Quote:The video released Wednesday was recorded by Juan Lopez, Grayson's director of constituent services. Earlier in the week, Lopez issued a statement saying he had witnessed the incident and that Grayson had "remained in a defensive posture and at no point in time did he lay a hand on [Carson-Grayson]."

The video, obtained by the Sentinel, does not include sound, and does not keep the couple in the frame the entire time. Grayson's attorneys on Wednesday also gave reporters a statement from the couple's adult daughter -- the same daughter who was arrested in November for allegedly pushing her mother during an argument.

"At no time did my father hit or push my mother," Skye Grayson, 18, said in the statement. "In fact, my father backed away from my mother when she became physically aggressive."

Video Shows Part Of Rep. Grayson's Altercation With Wife

Well, we saw them arguing, so where is the absolute proof that she wasn't shoved before she got pissed and pushed him back? Wasn't this filmed by the daughter who was arrested for pushing her mom down prior to this?

Damn, you're so naive, especially if you think they're a loving family.

And you're so ******* blinded by your partisanship that you can't even read what the hell I typed.

I said "maybe" idiot.

And loving family was cleary said in jest.

And you're also wrong. It wasn't filmed by the daughter.

I didn't know if it was the daughter or not, but she was mentioned in the story... However, is there proof that she wasn't shoved? I mean, it's such a coincidence that the video stayed on a van for about 10 or 12 seconds before it panned over to her pushing him away, and didn't you say there was no sound with the video? If that's the truth, then it's a fishy situation.

How do we know this video was actually taken on the day of the confrontation? They're getting divorced, things are rocky, so this could have happened any time. And why the need for someone to film an encounter with his wife? Who does that?

Grayson is hoping he is black enough to get Al Sharpton, Jessee Jackson and OJ Simpson type of justice.