(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

(02-13-2014 01:42 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Good point. It'd definitely be interesting to see someone challenge the GOR if only to see how it would play out. I personally don't think anything is 100% set in stone with the legal system that we have today, but that's just my opinion.

Ultimately, i tend to agree: If a school like Kansas wants to join the B1G, a settlement will be reached with the Big 12 about the GOR. Money will talk.

Some interesting points in this thread, and the biggest question that seems to be in a gray area is what would happen if a GOR were challenged by a school ... what would happen then?

An interesting question, but before we even get to the answer, my question is ..... are there any schools willing to DO that? Challenge the GOR they participated in? And ... are there any conferences with an established GOR in place, that want to open the door to weaken their GOR by inviting a school from another conference that, in order to accept their invitation, would have to go through the process of "beating" their current conference's GOR (and ultimately weaken EVERY conferences GOR)?


I just don't see any appetite out there, by either the conferences, or their members, to go to the trouble of seeing what would happen if the GOR they are operating under are ... in fact ... successfully challenged.

As long as the revenues to members within those conferences are somewhat close, the economics behind trying such a thing just don't add up.



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(02-13-2014 04:25 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Some interesting points in this thread, and the biggest question that seems to be in a gray area is what would happen if a GOR were challenged by a school ... what would happen then?

An interesting question, but before we even get to the answer, my question is ..... are there any schools willing to DO that? Challenge the GOR they participated in? And ... are there any conferences with an established GOR in place, that want to open the door to weaken their GOR by inviting a school from another conference that, in order to accept their invitation, would have to go through the process of "beating" their current conference's GOR (and ultimately weaken EVERY conferences GOR)?


I just don't see any appetite out there, but either the conferences, or their members, to go to the trouble of seeing what would happen if the GOR they are operating under are ... in fact ... successfully challenged.

As long as the revenues to members within those conferences are somewhat close, the economics behind trying such a thing just don't add up.



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I can see certain teams (WVU, Kansas) getting fed up with certain dictators (Texas) and contemplating a challenge, given they have a safe, stable, and more lucrative landing spot elsewhere (B1G, SEC).

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

I was curious as to whether the state line is an important factor in the northeast, given that the states are much smaller and closer together. UConn is much closer to Boston than Penn State is to Philadelphia, for example.

(02-13-2014 05:24 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

I was curious as to whether the state line is an important factor in the northeast, given that the states are much smaller and closer together. UConn is much closer to Boston than Penn State is to Philadelphia, for example.

Boston and NYC are the two cities with the most UCONN alum so there is a following in both places. I think that one NYC poll had UCONN as the 4th most followed college team in the city (especially since the southwest part of Connecticut is part of greater NYC). SNY is a New York-based sports channel. While we are not "New York's college team" this is the reality: http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-lik...yed.40752/. Also, New England residents tend to root for New England teams. It's not uncommon to have Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Maine, and even some Massachusetts residents following/rooting for UCONN. I've followed the Hockey East conference for quite a while now (even though UCONN doesn't join until next year) because it's full of New England-based teams.

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

With all due respect, I think you are looking at this rather simplistically. BC views New England as a region it wants to be competitive and have a strong presence in. That does not stop at the Massachusetts borders any more than Uconn believes its presence stops at the CT state borders (unless I am mistaken and Uconn is not trying to expand its presence in NYC (or should that be left to SU?).

BC and the ACC are currently on NESN, which is the NEW ENGLAND Cable News Network and is televised throughout New England. Naturally, BC wants to protect that exclusivity in New England. So what? You don't think that UF, USC, and UG don't protect their "SEC exlcusivity" in Florida, SC, and Georgia respectively? Why should BC be any different? BC and Uconn are 90 miles apart. Closer than either UF/FSU (148 miles) or Clemson/USC (139 miles). The notion that BC and Uconn are not geographic competitors is ridiculous, IMO.

To expect BC to act any differently than any of these other schools is not fair to BC. IMO, If the roles were reversed, Uconn would be doing nothing different than what BC is doing. To infer otherwise is naive, IMO.

BTW, in reference to your other post, I agree with you that people in New England tend to root for New England teams depending on the situation...that holds true for Uconn...it also holds true for BC...which again supports my point that New England is one region for college sports.

(02-13-2014 05:24 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

I was curious as to whether the state line is an important factor in the northeast, given that the states are much smaller and closer together. UConn is much closer to Boston than Penn State is to Philadelphia, for example.

As far as CT is concerned, state lines are just as important as anywhere else. Yes our region has some integration, for CT this is mainly SW CT and NYC. However, in terms of population, CT is a medium sized state, not a small one. CT has about the same population as OK, but with only one FBS school and no P5 representative. The reason UConn has the following it does in CT is because its the only nationally prominent athletic institution that actually represents CT. That obviously is not about to change.

(02-13-2014 06:01 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

With all due respect, I think you are looking at this rather simplistically. BC views New England as a region it wants to be competitive and have a strong presence in. That does not stop at the Massachusetts borders any more than Uconn believes its presence stops at the CT state borders (unless I am mistaken and Uconn is not trying to expand its presence in NYC (or should that be left to SU?).

BC and the ACC are currently on NESN, which is the NEW ENGLAND Cable News Network and is televised throughout New England. Naturally, BC wants to protect that exclusivity in New England. So what? You don't think that UF, USC, and UG don't protect their "SEC exlcusivity" in Florida, SC, and Georgia respectively? Why should BC be any different? BC and Uconn are 90 miles apart. Closer than either UF/FSU (148 miles) or Clemson/USC (139 miles). The notion that BC and Uconn are not geographic competitors is ridiculous, IMO.

To expect BC to act any differently than any of these other schools is not fair to BC. IMO, If the roles were reversed, Uconn would be doing nothing different than what BC is doing. To infer otherwise is naive, IMO.

BTW, in reference to your other post, I agree with you that people in New England tend to root for New England teams depending on the situation...that holds true for Uconn...it also holds true for BC...which again supports my point that New England is one region for college sports.

Like I said, I understand the intrastate examples. I just don't get it when it comes to BC and New England. New England is a large area and BC will never be considered New England's representative in the college sports world, at least not Connecticut's. Maybe BC does de facto represent MA, RI, NH, VT, and ME, but all of those states are much smaller than CT and are much more culturally aligned with Boston. I personally feel that people in CT might actually pay attention to BC if it was in a conference with UConn. At this point, BC sports are not something that gets mentioned by Connecticut media. However, I often see UConn related articles in the Boston Globe and Herald, which may explain some of BC's position regarding "turf".

(02-13-2014 07:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 06:01 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 02:44 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  The Turf issues thing as it relates to BC and CT is so comical to me. To even suggest that a private university in Boston should have any sort of market protection over CT because it happens to be a New England state is so galling. It is bad enough as it pertains to NY and Boston claiming dominion over CT as far as pro-sports are concerned but for BC trying to claim some kind of market presence in CT, that's all kinds of ridiculous. New England is not a state.

Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

With all due respect, I think you are looking at this rather simplistically. BC views New England as a region it wants to be competitive and have a strong presence in. That does not stop at the Massachusetts borders any more than Uconn believes its presence stops at the CT state borders (unless I am mistaken and Uconn is not trying to expand its presence in NYC (or should that be left to SU?).

BC and the ACC are currently on NESN, which is the NEW ENGLAND Cable News Network and is televised throughout New England. Naturally, BC wants to protect that exclusivity in New England. So what? You don't think that UF, USC, and UG don't protect their "SEC exlcusivity" in Florida, SC, and Georgia respectively? Why should BC be any different? BC and Uconn are 90 miles apart. Closer than either UF/FSU (148 miles) or Clemson/USC (139 miles). The notion that BC and Uconn are not geographic competitors is ridiculous, IMO.

To expect BC to act any differently than any of these other schools is not fair to BC. IMO, If the roles were reversed, Uconn would be doing nothing different than what BC is doing. To infer otherwise is naive, IMO.

BTW, in reference to your other post, I agree with you that people in New England tend to root for New England teams depending on the situation...that holds true for Uconn...it also holds true for BC...which again supports my point that New England is one region for college sports.

Like I said, I understand the intrastate examples. I just don't get it when it comes to BC and New England. New England is a large area and BC will never be considered New England's representative in the college sports world, at least not Connecticut's. Maybe BC does de facto represent MA, RI, NH, VT, and ME, but all of those states are much smaller than CT and are much more culturally aligned with Boston. I personally feel that people in CT might actually pay attention to BC if it was in a conference with UConn. At this point, BC sports are not something that gets mentioned by Connecticut media. However, I often see UConn related articles in the Boston Globe and Herald, which may explain some of BC's position regarding "turf".

BC has media outlets in VT, NH, Maine, and RI. Their main broadcasts from Boston hit all of New England as well as chunk of eastern Connecticut. They do consider you in their market footprint.

Current radio affiliates[edit]


Station

Frequency

City

Format

Sports carried

Notes

WPOP 1410 Hartford, Connecticut Sports Football
WJJB-FM 96.3 Gray, Maine Sports Football, basketball
WRED 1440 Westbrook, Maine Sports Football, basketball
WEEI 850 Boston, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball Co-flagship of the football & basketball networks with WRKO.
WRKO 680 Boston, Massachusetts News/Talk Football, basketball Co-flagship of the football & basketball networks with WEEI/WEEI-FM.
WROL 950 Boston, Massachusetts Brokered Ice hockey Flagship for the ice hockey network
WWEI 105.5 Easthampton, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball
WEEI-FM 93.7 Lawrence, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball Simulcast of football & basketball co-flagship WEEI.
WMRC 1490 Milford, Massachusetts Full Service Football, basketball
WVEI 1440 Worcester, Massachusetts Sports (WEEI network) Football, basketball
WTPL 107.7 Hillsborough, New Hampshire News/Talk Football, basketball
WGAM 1250 Manchester, New Hampshire Sports Football, basketball
WGHM 900 Nashua, New Hampshire Sports Football, basketball
WVEI-FM 103.7 Westerly, Rhode Island Sports Football, basketball
WVMT 620 Burlington, Vermont News/Talk Football, basketball

Former affiliates (3 stations)[edit]
WARL/1320: Attleboro, Massachusetts (2006 & 2009)
WCRN/830: Worcester, Massachusetts (2010)
WTSA/1450: Brattleboro, Vermont (2009)

BC is New England's team. And that shows up every time there is a regional telecast split in the area - look at the ABC/ESPN maps. There were there before you and they will do everything they can to block you.

(02-13-2014 07:27 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 07:17 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 06:01 PM)Eagle78 Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 04:41 PM)HartfordHusky Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 03:17 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Just curious: Does UConn market itself outside of Connecticut at all, or just in-state?

UConn obviously markets itself nationally and internationally and views itself as a national and global institution. USNWR ranks it the 19th public university in the US. That is not really my point though. My point is about protected markets as it pertains to marketing athletic programs. It just makes no sense for one school to try to claim all of New England, a region that spans 6 states. Maybe that's just the way I'm looking at it though. I can understand Ohio St. vs Cincy and Florida vs FSU to the SEC as those institutions represent the same state. BC doesn't represent anything about the state of CT so them blocking UConn due to turf simply makes no sense. Not that that is the major factor keeping UConn from gaining an ACC invite.

With all due respect, I think you are looking at this rather simplistically. BC views New England as a region it wants to be competitive and have a strong presence in. That does not stop at the Massachusetts borders any more than Uconn believes its presence stops at the CT state borders (unless I am mistaken and Uconn is not trying to expand its presence in NYC (or should that be left to SU?).

BC and the ACC are currently on NESN, which is the NEW ENGLAND Cable News Network and is televised throughout New England. Naturally, BC wants to protect that exclusivity in New England. So what? You don't think that UF, USC, and UG don't protect their "SEC exlcusivity" in Florida, SC, and Georgia respectively? Why should BC be any different? BC and Uconn are 90 miles apart. Closer than either UF/FSU (148 miles) or Clemson/USC (139 miles). The notion that BC and Uconn are not geographic competitors is ridiculous, IMO.

To expect BC to act any differently than any of these other schools is not fair to BC. IMO, If the roles were reversed, Uconn would be doing nothing different than what BC is doing. To infer otherwise is naive, IMO.

BTW, in reference to your other post, I agree with you that people in New England tend to root for New England teams depending on the situation...that holds true for Uconn...it also holds true for BC...which again supports my point that New England is one region for college sports.

Like I said, I understand the intrastate examples. I just don't get it when it comes to BC and New England. New England is a large area and BC will never be considered New England's representative in the college sports world, at least not Connecticut's. Maybe BC does de facto represent MA, RI, NH, VT, and ME, but all of those states are much smaller than CT and are much more culturally aligned with Boston. I personally feel that people in CT might actually pay attention to BC if it was in a conference with UConn. At this point, BC sports are not something that gets mentioned by Connecticut media. However, I often see UConn related articles in the Boston Globe and Herald, which may explain some of BC's position regarding "turf".

BC has media outlets in VT, NH, Maine, and RI. Their main broadcasts from Boston hit all of New England as well as chunk of eastern Connecticut. They do consider you in their market footprint.

Current radio affiliates[edit]


Station

Frequency

City

Format

Sports carried

Notes

WPOP 1410 Hartford, Connecticut Sports Football
WJJB-FM 96.3 Gray, Maine Sports Football, basketball
WRED 1440 Westbrook, Maine Sports Football, basketball
WEEI 850 Boston, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball Co-flagship of the football & basketball networks with WRKO.
WRKO 680 Boston, Massachusetts News/Talk Football, basketball Co-flagship of the football & basketball networks with WEEI/WEEI-FM.
WROL 950 Boston, Massachusetts Brokered Ice hockey Flagship for the ice hockey network
WWEI 105.5 Easthampton, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball
WEEI-FM 93.7 Lawrence, Massachusetts Sports Football, basketball Simulcast of football & basketball co-flagship WEEI.
WMRC 1490 Milford, Massachusetts Full Service Football, basketball
WVEI 1440 Worcester, Massachusetts Sports (WEEI network) Football, basketball
WTPL 107.7 Hillsborough, New Hampshire News/Talk Football, basketball
WGAM 1250 Manchester, New Hampshire Sports Football, basketball
WGHM 900 Nashua, New Hampshire Sports Football, basketball
WVEI-FM 103.7 Westerly, Rhode Island Sports Football, basketball
WVMT 620 Burlington, Vermont News/Talk Football, basketball

Former affiliates (3 stations)[edit]
WARL/1320: Attleboro, Massachusetts (2006 & 2009)
WCRN/830: Worcester, Massachusetts (2010)
WTSA/1450: Brattleboro, Vermont (2009)

BC is New England's team. And that shows up every time there is a regional telecast split in the area - look at the ABC/ESPN maps. There were there before you and they will do everything they can to block you.

True...Boston is the largest and most populated city in New England - due to the small footprint, it's obviously gonna go into other states. It does go into Eastern CT, but that's also the least populated part of the state. Why would Connecticut residents care about BC more than any of the other 50 universities in or around Boston? They don't...

You calling BC New England's college team is like Syracuse calling itself New York's college team...It's a way for the university to market itself despite it simply not being accurate...

Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

(02-13-2014 07:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

If that's the case then Connecticut is New York's college team...http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-lik...yed.40752/

(02-13-2014 07:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 07:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

If that's the case then Connecticut is New York's college team...http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-lik...yed.40752/

I have lived in CT my entire life and nobody watches, talks about or thinks about BC. Even BC alumni don't care about BC aside from hockey.

And what is this noise about being on TV...who is watching it? Point to a single rating that is above a 0.0.

(02-13-2014 07:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

You are correct, lumberpack.

For the first time in many years, BC has a sports management team in place that actually understands brand marketing and it is in the process of pushing its brand. Its not about "claiming turf"; that kind of stuff is idiotic, IMO. What is important is: (1) increasing exposure, (2) using that exposure to market your brand, and, finally, (3) attaining the performance to take advantage of #1 and #2. The rest takes care of itself.

The new AD and FB HC are following a careful strategy. SA, for example, was all over ESPN this past season. To look at BC FB now, as compared to where they were just a year ago, is beathtaking.

(02-13-2014 08:30 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 07:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 07:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

If that's the case then Connecticut is New York's college team...http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-lik...yed.40752/

I have lived in CT my entire life and nobody watches, talks about or thinks about BC. Even BC alumni don't care about BC aside from hockey.

And what is this noise about being on TV...who is watching it? Point to a single rating that is above a 0.0.

Amazing. Are these the group-think talking points from The Boneyard? 0.0? Here are some ratings for you from the just completed FB season. BC crushed Uconn in the TV ratings.

Again, read what lumberpack posted. Regardless of the noise some people like to throw out there. What is important is what people are watching. In New England, the results are clear.

Actual facts and data are wonderful things.

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

NESN also broadcasts the Amherst-Williams game, 8 hours of NESN live, like 6 hours of Charlie Moore outdoors in a row, a bunch of infomercials, I see a children's candle pin bowling tournament the weekend, and for some reason Larry king is on NESN. With the Bruins being off they have almost no programming.

(02-13-2014 09:57 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  NESN also broadcasts the Amherst-Williams game, 8 hours of NESN live, like 6 hours of Charlie Moore outdoors in a row, a bunch of infomercials, I see a children's candle pin bowling tournament the weekend, and for some reason Larry king is on NESN. With the Bruins being off they have almost no programming.

And this is significant, how? All networks have filler programming. So what? Are either Umass or Uconn on NESN? What does that tell you?

(02-13-2014 07:39 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(02-13-2014 07:37 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Husky, it's not about caring, it's about what's on TV. The reason you have a bunch of 55 plus Redskins fans in NC is because that's who we say on CBS back in the 70's. Same with the Atlanta Braves and WTBS.

If that's the case then Connecticut is New York's college team...http://syracusefan.com/threads/looks-lik...yed.40752/

That's a very week example you are using for the second time in this thread. Guess what? SU's games are now on MSG and YES, which both happen to be national channels that dwarf lil ole SNY, that no one outside of Connecticut cares about. You know what else YES and MSG have in common? They are both NYC based channels. Your infatuation with SU really isn't healthy.