(02-10-2014 09:49 AM)cmt Wrote:  Smart wasn't smart.

Remember the special on TV prior to the Memphis game at Stillwater? Marcus Smart was as great a college athlete as he could possibly be. Then that game proved it. It was Smart to come back to school and lead the Cowboys to the promised land.

Then his center went down, then his shot went away, then another player bit the dust. Now in danger of missing the NCAA's all together and losing mega-millions in NBA money, Smart takes it out on a chair, then who knows what else and now on a fan. (From what some are saying here, the first fan to ever say something mean to an opposing player.) And like the article said, his mentor, his teacher, his coach seems to only be concerned with winning the next game and salvaging his job. And I agree the NBA plug was way too easy to see through. I wonder what Smart was promised to come back this year?

Just glad no body remembered Pierre's slap.

HA! No body remembered? Check out the first thread on this.

(02-10-2014 09:14 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  No racial slur was made. In the audio, you hear the obnoxious fan say "you piece of crap". Smart says. "F*#k you!". And the fan replies "you're not my type." Smart gets pissed and shoves the guy. Teenager or not, racial slur or not...from a legal standpoint, Smart committed assault. I certainly don't think he should be prosecuted. But for folks to blame Travis Ford , the stupid fan, or anyone other than Smart is stupid.

Assault my ass.. You gotta be kidding


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(02-10-2014 10:23 AM)tigers311 Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:14 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  No racial slur was made. In the audio, you hear the obnoxious fan say "you piece of crap". Smart says. "F*#k you!". And the fan replies "you're not my type." Smart gets pissed and shoves the guy. Teenager or not, racial slur or not...from a legal standpoint, Smart committed assault. I certainly don't think he should be prosecuted. But for folks to blame Travis Ford , the stupid fan, or anyone other than Smart is stupid.

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Yes, assault. Shoving someone is assaulting them.

Smart's NBA future will not ride on the success or failure of this college basketball season in Stillwater... but acting a fool could cost him a ton of money.

(02-10-2014 09:07 AM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  Maybe meaningless to you, but I would love to see how you would've reacted when you were 19 if someone called you a piece of crap or racial slur. Its easy for us to say let it go when we are watching on tv, debating on a mesageboard, and passing judgement when we have no idea what was said.

Tiger fans thought it was "funny" when Pierre slapped orange jumpsuit guy. Yet Smart was wrong for a two handed shove to the chest?

(02-10-2014 10:33 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:28 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:23 AM)tigers311 Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:14 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  No racial slur was made. In the audio, you hear the obnoxious fan say "you piece of crap". Smart says. "F*#k you!". And the fan replies "you're not my type." Smart gets pissed and shoves the guy. Teenager or not, racial slur or not...from a legal standpoint, Smart committed assault. I certainly don't think he should be prosecuted. But for folks to blame Travis Ford , the stupid fan, or anyone other than Smart is stupid.

Assault my ass.. You gotta be kidding


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Yes, assault. Shoving someone is assaulting them.

Good luck with that. Oh, I see no assault charges have been filed, that's strange...

Whether charges are filed or not, that's the definition of assault.

(02-10-2014 10:37 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:34 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:07 AM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  Maybe meaningless to you, but I would love to see how you would've reacted when you were 19 if someone called you a piece of crap or racial slur. Its easy for us to say let it go when we are watching on tv, debating on a mesageboard, and passing judgement when we have no idea what was said.

Tiger fans thought it was "funny" when Pierre slapped orange jumpsuit guy. Yet Smart was wrong for a two handed shove to the chest?

Not only that, but he should be kicked out of college and thrown in jail for the rest of his natural life.

lol

(02-10-2014 08:12 AM)jamtiger Wrote:  What Smart did was not restraint. Restraint is walking away from the person making the terrible remarks. I've been in the same situation before, and have moved on. If he was physically assaulted that would be a different story.

Life is full of people that will try to bring you down to their level, you cannot let them succeed or they have won.

I agree. Some posters here think they can type some words on a screen and think, believe, and act as if what they said is fact.

(02-10-2014 10:33 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:28 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:23 AM)tigers311 Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:14 AM)howboutthemtigers Wrote:  No racial slur was made. In the audio, you hear the obnoxious fan say "you piece of crap". Smart says. "F*#k you!". And the fan replies "you're not my type." Smart gets pissed and shoves the guy. Teenager or not, racial slur or not...from a legal standpoint, Smart committed assault. I certainly don't think he should be prosecuted. But for folks to blame Travis Ford , the stupid fan, or anyone other than Smart is stupid.

Assault my ass.. You gotta be kidding


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Yes, assault. Shoving someone is assaulting them.

Good luck with that. Oh, I see no assault charges have been filed, that's strange...

Simply because charges weren't filed doesn't mean it wasn't assault, genius. Wether it was assault or not was not the point. The point was that Dana O'neil wrote a inflammatory piece that placed the blame everywhere except where it should be.

(02-10-2014 10:32 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Smart's NBA future will not ride on the success or failure of this college basketball season in Stillwater... but acting a fool could cost him a ton of money.

Not in the NBA or NFL

(02-10-2014 08:44 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  I played several years of competitive baseball as a kid and I can tell you when I was on the pitcher's mound it was business as usual for the opposing team's redneck parents to shout out all sorts of negative insults directed at me throughout the game. Instead of allowing it to bother me, I would use their insults as additional motivation to strike out the batter...and believe you me, it helped me throw that fastball a little harder and made my breaking ball cut a little quicker.

great post. a lot of posters here haven't played competitive sports so basically they have no idea what you are talking about.

(02-10-2014 09:13 AM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:09 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:06 AM)holysheetman Wrote:  Honestly, to elicit that kind of response from Smart, he sure called him something worse than "a piece of crap", that wouldnt make me lunge at someone... Had to of been the N word or something more provoking than "a piece of crap"

I disagree. Smart has been unraveling emotionally for several games now. Frustration has been building. There was the incident where he kicked the chair. I think you have a guy who was already on the edge and just lost it.

Not sure why he came back; should have gone pro already. Now his stock is dropping and he is probably feeling that pressure. Both were wrong in this incident, but one should have been a better man than the other, but it didn't happen. Mr. Smart is a world class athelete. Just think if he really whaled on the guy, punched him in the face. He could have actually killed the guy. What would be said then?

Just think if he had gone over to the cheerleaders, retrieved one of those t shirt launchers, put in a T shirt wrapped around a billiard ball and fired it directly into the guy's cojones. Now that would have been a story.

In other words, why speculate about something that didn't happen?

(02-10-2014 09:49 AM)cmt Wrote:  Smart wasn't smart.

Remember the special on TV prior to the Memphis game at Stillwater? Marcus Smart was as great a college athlete as he could possibly be. Then that game proved it. It was Smart to come back to school and lead the Cowboys to the promised land.

Then his center went down, then his shot went away, then another player bit the dust. Now in danger of missing the NCAA's all together and losing mega-millions in NBA money, Smart takes it out on a chair, then who knows what else and now on a fan. (From what some are saying here, the first fan to ever say something mean to an opposing player.) And like the article said, his mentor, his teacher, his coach seems to only be concerned with winning the next game and salvaging his job. And I agree the NBA plug was way too easy to see through. I wonder what Smart was promised to come back this year?

Just glad no body remembered Pierre's slap.

Yep.

Amazing how people can be so sanctimonious and hypocritical people if they think they can get another politically correct merit badge

(02-10-2014 09:13 AM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:09 AM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:06 AM)holysheetman Wrote:  Honestly, to elicit that kind of response from Smart, he sure called him something worse than "a piece of crap", that wouldnt make me lunge at someone... Had to of been the N word or something more provoking than "a piece of crap"

I disagree. Smart has been unraveling emotionally for several games now. Frustration has been building. There was the incident where he kicked the chair. I think you have a guy who was already on the edge and just lost it.

Not sure why he came back; should have gone pro already. Now his stock is dropping and he is probably feeling that pressure. Both were wrong in this incident, but one should have been a better man than the other, but it didn't happen. Mr. Smart is a world class athelete. Just think if he really whaled on the guy, punched him in the face. He could have actually killed the guy. What would be said then?

The college experience and to work on his jump shot .



Guilty .

(02-10-2014 10:37 AM)Lord2FLI Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:34 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:07 AM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  Maybe meaningless to you, but I would love to see how you would've reacted when you were 19 if someone called you a piece of crap or racial slur. Its easy for us to say let it go when we are watching on tv, debating on a mesageboard, and passing judgement when we have no idea what was said.

Tiger fans thought it was "funny" when Pierre slapped orange jumpsuit guy. Yet Smart was wrong for a two handed shove to the chest?

Not only that, but he should be kicked out of college and thrown in jail for the rest of his natural life.

as long as you are his cell mate, lock em up.

(02-10-2014 07:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  If the fan called Smart the N word; he showed restraint. I don't blame him one bit.

Was his "manhood" insulted? If so he is a mental midget.

It's a double standard to presume a young man will represent his university in a mature manner in all situations. Yet this is precisely what is expected. And the athlete signs up for that trip when he accepts the scholarship.

I'm not saying it's the way it ought to be; it isn't. But it's the way it is.

(02-10-2014 10:41 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 10:32 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Smart's NBA future will not ride on the success or failure of this college basketball season in Stillwater... but acting a fool could cost him a ton of money.

Not in the NBA or NFL

Right. They're all ambassadors and artists of good in their own sight. Here's when I stopped watching NBA games.

(02-10-2014 10:34 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2014 09:07 AM)AtlTigerfan Wrote:  Maybe meaningless to you, but I would love to see how you would've reacted when you were 19 if someone called you a piece of crap or racial slur. Its easy for us to say let it go when we are watching on tv, debating on a mesageboard, and passing judgement when we have no idea what was said.

Tiger fans thought it was "funny" when Pierre slapped orange jumpsuit guy. Yet Smart was wrong for a two handed shove to the chest?

Well, that was kinda funny.

(02-10-2014 11:07 AM)holyterror Wrote:  It's a double standard to presume a young man will represent his university in a mature manner in all situations. Yet this is precisely what is expected. And the athlete signs up for that trip when he accepts the scholarship.

I'm not saying it's the way it ought to be; it isn't. But it's the way it is.

It's not that difficult. It's really not. I remember being in the band, we were held to that same standard. I remember making that trip to UTEP for the conference games in (I think it was) 2011. They had the band seated right next to the UTEP student section. They actually at one point had to place a security officer between us because of how rowdy the students had gotten. There were quite a few less than kind words yelled at us then. And we're the band. But guess what? We didn't go over and push anyone.