(01-08-2014 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 09:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The goal of separation of church and state was not so as to be a tool for people to have at one another. The whole rotten discussion is a perversion of intent draped in self-righteousness.

Hence what I am saying. The so called atheist movement is not a real atheist movement. Real atheists don't need a God to not believe in. Real atheists don't care about a 10 Commandment monument, because it has zero affect on them.

This is about the secular progressive movement who see religion hindering their agenda...an agenda of removing accountability. It's no coincidence that it's the same people who are usually pushing for the legalization of drugs and other societal poisons. When I hear these sad people applauding this evil group promoting their statue using the Constitution, I immediately see right through their poorly veiled facade. They do not care about our Constitution, and they don't care about civil rights. They only care about how much they want to remove our Judeo Christian foundation and their war against the moral right.



There they are. Look at that fat slob. How much pot do you think that guy smokes? These are the people we want shaping our society? These are the lowlifes the secularists are defending. These are people without a moral center. These are people without sense of pride for themselves or our country. They are the cancer. Not religion.

Listen, you can attack the character of the people involved all you want, but that doesn't change the legitimacy of the point they're trying to make with this statue. What do you think would happen if Hindus or Buddhists tried this?

Wouldn't think that too many Christians are rooting for the Satanic statue to go up.

(01-08-2014 11:05 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 10:01 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 09:49 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The goal of separation of church and state was not so as to be a tool for people to have at one another. The whole rotten discussion is a perversion of intent draped in self-righteousness.

Hence what I am saying. The so called atheist movement is not a real atheist movement. Real atheists don't need a God to not believe in. Real atheists don't care about a 10 Commandment monument, because it has zero affect on them.

This is about the secular progressive movement who see religion hindering their agenda...an agenda of removing accountability. It's no coincidence that it's the same people who are usually pushing for the legalization of drugs and other societal poisons. When I hear these sad people applauding this evil group promoting their statue using the Constitution, I immediately see right through their poorly veiled facade. They do not care about our Constitution, and they don't care about civil rights. They only care about how much they want to remove our Judeo Christian foundation and their war against the moral right.



There they are. Look at that fat slob. How much pot do you think that guy smokes? These are the people we want shaping our society? These are the lowlifes the secularists are defending. These are people without a moral center. These are people without sense of pride for themselves or our country. They are the cancer. Not religion.

Listen, you can attack the character of the people involved all you want, but that doesn't change the legitimacy of the point they're trying to make with this statue. What do you think would happen if Hindus or Buddhists tried this?

There is nothing legitimate about their cause, because it is a dishonest one. This is not a political debate. This is about secular progressives using a fake debate to achieve their hidden agenda. You are part of that. Just like you continue to push a false global warming agenda. You want the Govt to completely regulate every aspect of our energy sector.

(01-08-2014 11:06 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't think that too many Christians are rooting for the Satanic statue to go up.

Ah screw it. It could become a cool Halloween prop, which would be neat. Sort of.

(01-09-2014 12:05 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:06 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't think that too many Christians are rooting for the Satanic statue to go up.

Ah screw it. It could become a cool Halloween prop, which would be neat. Sort of.

Pure comedy gold. But with a real purpose. To provide a cautionary tale to those who seek to hijack Christianity for political purposes.

Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

(01-09-2014 12:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:05 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-08-2014 11:06 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't think that too many Christians are rooting for the Satanic statue to go up.

Ah screw it. It could become a cool Halloween prop, which would be neat. Sort of.

Pure comedy gold. But with a real purpose. To provide a cautionary tale to those who seek to hijack Christianity for political purposes.

/sarcasm.

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

The Islamists in Oklahoma don't have time for this. They're busy trying to implement Islamic Sharia law regime in Oklahoma. Its apparently such a big problem that the Oklahoma legislature passed and the Governor signed, a bill banning Islamic Sharia law in Oklahoma.

The Muslim Brotherhood will be traveling to Oklahoma, singing "Oklahoma".

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

(01-09-2014 12:19 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

The Islamists in Oklahoma don't have time for this. They're busy trying to implement Islamic Sharia law regime in Oklahoma. Its apparently such a big problem that the Oklahoma legislature passed and the Governor signed, a bill banning Islamic Sharia law in Oklahoma.

People in the UK were snarky about it when they were on their multiculturalism push. People just as clueless as you. They aren't clueless anymore. Sadly, it's too late.

(01-09-2014 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

The Satanic statue, not the Ten Commandments.

(01-09-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

The Satanic statue, not the Ten Commandments.

No, but they, too, can put up a monument on the State Capitol grounds with Koranic verses. My guess is that they wouldn't do it.

No, the right of the Satanists to have equal access for religious messages in the public square, cannot be abridged due to fundamentalist (Christian/Islamic) opposition.

(01-09-2014 03:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

The Satanic statue, not the Ten Commandments.

No, but they, too, can put up a monument on the State Capitol grounds with Koranic verses. My guess is that they wouldn't do it.

No, the right of the Satanists to have equal access for religious messages in the public square, cannot be abridged due to fundamentalist (Christian/Islamic) opposition.

Then UFO believers, and flat earth people, and conspiracy theorists, etc. The list would be endless.
Seems like Satan is considered by a huge majority to be a bad thing. Would think most would be overwhelmingly against it.

(01-09-2014 03:41 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:13 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Wouldn't the Islamists demand it be taken down then?
We have to be so PC.

No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

The Satanic statue, not the Ten Commandments.

No, but they, too, can put up a monument on the State Capitol grounds with Koranic verses. My guess is that they wouldn't do it.

No, the right of the Satanists to have equal access for religious messages in the public square, cannot be abridged due to fundamentalist (Christian/Islamic) opposition.

Then UFO believers, and flat earth people, and conspiracy theorists, etc. The list would be endless.
Seems like Satan is considered by a huge majority to be a bad thing. Would think most would be overwhelmingly against it.

Yes, the list is endless. That's why smart governments simply encourage people to keep religious messaging off of public property.

Public support/opposition does not factor into the equation of whether they can or can't put up a statue on the Okla. State Capitol Grounds.

(01-09-2014 03:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:41 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 03:31 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 12:28 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  No, the Ten Commandments are not a Christian document. They are part of Islam as well.

The Satanic statue, not the Ten Commandments.

No, but they, too, can put up a monument on the State Capitol grounds with Koranic verses. My guess is that they wouldn't do it.

No, the right of the Satanists to have equal access for religious messages in the public square, cannot be abridged due to fundamentalist (Christian/Islamic) opposition.

Then UFO believers, and flat earth people, and conspiracy theorists, etc. The list would be endless.
Seems like Satan is considered by a huge majority to be a bad thing. Would think most would be overwhelmingly against it.

Yes, the list is endless. That's why smart governments simply encourage people to keep religious messaging off of public property.

Public support/opposition does not factor into the equation of whether they can or can't put up a statue on the Okla. State Capitol Grounds.

Here's how it's going to go down Tom. The Supreme Court may rule that Oklahoma must remove to 10 Commandments from the Capitol. Oklahoma will then find a loophole and the monument will end up remaining. The Satanist group in New York will waste every last dime they raise and their monument will not become a reality in the state of Oklahoma.

Going to actually be interesting to see what does happen.
Considering today's ridiculous government interference with states rights,
wouldn't doubt Oklahoma having to put up a statue honoring Texas.

(01-09-2014 04:00 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Going to actually be interesting to see what does happen.
Considering today's ridiculous government interference with states rights,
wouldn't doubt Oklahoma having to put up a statue honoring Texas.

More appropriate if Oklahoma put up a monument to the Confederacy.

At any rate, this will be a long drawn out and expensive process, which will ultimately result in Oklahoma losing and the best part is that the government pays the court costs and attorney fees when they lose. Full employment for liberal lawyers in Oklahoma.

(01-09-2014 04:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 04:00 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Going to actually be interesting to see what does happen.
Considering today's ridiculous government interference with states rights,
wouldn't doubt Oklahoma having to put up a statue honoring Texas.

More appropriate if Oklahoma put up a monument to the Confederacy.

At any rate, this will be a long drawn out and expensive process, which will ultimately result in Oklahoma losing and the best part is that the government pays the court costs and attorney fees when they lose. Full employment for liberal lawyers in Oklahoma.

Unfortunately unlike some would say, you cannot just fight the wars that you can win. When you feel you are right you still need to fight the good fight.

(01-09-2014 04:07 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-09-2014 04:00 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Going to actually be interesting to see what does happen.
Considering today's ridiculous government interference with states rights,
wouldn't doubt Oklahoma having to put up a statue honoring Texas.

More appropriate if Oklahoma put up a monument to the Confederacy.

At any rate, this will be a long drawn out and expensive process, which will ultimately result in Oklahoma losing and the best part is that the government pays the court costs and attorney fees when they lose. Full employment for liberal lawyers in Oklahoma.

The Confederate Flag flies at the State Capitol building.