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I sat with 3 players from the 1990s and they were very critical about the play calling. It was too predictable. Also needs a tight end if going to pound the middle.

(11-01-2021 12:29 AM)75src Wrote: [ -> ]I sat with 3 players from the 1990s and they were very critical about the play calling. It was too predictable. Also needs a tight end if going to pound the middle.

Not only is it predictable, there was NO deception in the plays (especially the running plays). Why the heck not?

(11-01-2021 09:04 AM)Almadenmike Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2021 12:29 AM)75src Wrote: [ -> ]I sat with 3 players from the 1990s and they were very critical about the play calling. It was too predictable. Also needs a tight end if going to pound the middle.

Not only is it predictable, there was NO deception in the plays (especially the running plays). Why the heck not?

Yes. Considering the number of 'athletes' we have on this team, I'm just shocked at the lack of motion and misdirection. Its as if we keep giving our offense the scout team playbook. It's not merely 'pound the rock'.... It's run a 1960's style offense against a defense that was specifically designed to stop it.

Numbers, I think you said something about us trying all sorts of offenses and I don't disagree... but they've all shown positive signs... except really this one and Berndt's. The problem has often been that because of thin numbers at lineman and backers, we've often had to sacrifice on defense to GET those signs of life on offense.

MY biggest disappointment in Bloomgren is that he's a linemen who can't seem to recruit a lot of great linemen.... even by g5/CUSA standards.

I'm sick to my stomach over the loss. We go on the road to beat UAB, and then come home to lose to a 1-6 team. We committed more penalties than we had all season. Their head's weren't in the game, and neither was Bloomgren's. Very disappointing to lose like that after such a great game against a good team. There's no way we keep this guy if we can't win six games. We're going to a new conference and we need to make a change. Bloomgren isn't the future. It's his fourth season, and we're still losing to 1-6 teams at home. WTH?

(11-01-2021 11:10 AM)Ourland Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sick to my stomach over the loss. We go on the road to beat UAB, and then come home to lose to a 1-6 team. We committed more penalties than we had all season. Their head's weren't in the game, and neither was Bloomgren's. Very disappointing to lose like that after such a great game against a good team. There's no way we keep this guy if we can't win six games. We're going to a new conference and we need to make a change. Bloomgren isn't the future. It's his fourth season, and we're still losing to 1-6 teams at home. WTH?

A 1-6 team that we were clearly athletically superior to everywhere except our O-line

A 1-6 team that gave us ample opportunities via their own lack of discipline.

A 1-6 team that, by my eye test and many computer rankings that go down that far, was the most hapless team we've seen this year

And that "1" was to Northwestern State, a Southland bottom feeder....

A 1-6 team that wasn't playing their top four receivers (as of the start of the season).

A 1-6 team that was starting two cornerbacks who were receivers at the start the season.

A 1-6 team that was starting their fourth team defensive backs.

(10-30-2021 05:33 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]The top officials in the athletic department were on their high horse today. Was told this is the perfect coach and the perfect offense for this university. There will be no changes, I can guarantee you.

I kinda sat back and waited to see what happened to this thread after the UAB win. It was silent, THEN we lose and it's back on fire.....see that week after the win a lot of you took your eyes off of what is important, running a good program. winning a game doesn't change that the program is still being run poorly.

with regard to the OP, this what i believe and this is why i asked to be removed from the caller list just yesterday when rice called to ask me for money again. i told the young lady that i don't agree with their recruiting practices, i don't agree with how the ath dept is being ran, and until i see changes for the better rice will not see a dime of my money for anything at all.

if they believe this offense is perfect for this university they don't understand football at any level.

(11-01-2021 11:30 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]A 1-6 team that wasn't playing their top four receivers (as of the start of the season).

A 1-6 team that was starting two cornerbacks who were receivers at the start the season.

A 1-6 team that was starting their fourth team defensive backs.

I missed the game but this seemed to be akin to the Nicholl's State loss after which we probably needed to replace that coach immediately.

(11-01-2021 11:30 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]A 1-6 team that wasn't playing their top four receivers (as of the start of the season).

A 1-6 team that was starting two cornerbacks who were receivers at the start the season.

A 1-6 team that was starting their fourth team defensive backs.

I'm not sure about the secondary, but they had some of their top receivers. Their top two receivers on the year (Burns and Pirtle) both played most of the game for UNT.

In terms of Rice being better at every position, that was wrong too. UNT's DL was solid and vastly better than ours. #97 was all over the field, and their freshmen DE twins are future stars. Which makes the running strategy even more stupid by Bloomgren and the OC (unless I guess they felt the OL couldn't protect long enough to get the passes thrown?).

There hasn’t been a hint of progress in four years. It’s so evident Bloomgren needs to go. Sorry it didn’t work out.

(11-01-2021 11:19 AM)That Guy 2012 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2021 11:10 AM)Ourland Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sick to my stomach over the loss. We go on the road to beat UAB, and then come home to lose to a 1-6 team. We committed more penalties than we had all season. Their head's weren't in the game, and neither was Bloomgren's. Very disappointing to lose like that after such a great game against a good team. There's no way we keep this guy if we can't win six games. We're going to a new conference and we need to make a change. Bloomgren isn't the future. It's his fourth season, and we're still losing to 1-6 teams at home. WTH?

A 1-6 team that we were clearly athletically superior to everywhere except our O-line

A 1-6 team that gave us ample opportunities via their own lack of discipline.

A 1-6 team that, by my eye test and many computer rankings that go down that far, was the most hapless team we've seen this year

And that "1" was to Northwestern State, a Southland bottom feeder....

Yeah there's no excuse for it. On the game thread, I predicted a blowout, because that's what it should have been. This coach needs to go. He needs to be fired at the end of the season. The new coach needs to get in here before we go to the AAC. The last four seasons have been a complete waste of time, energy, and resources. Bring someone in who's qualified this time. Attendance at games is horrible. It's embarrassing. We can't keep this up.

(10-31-2021 09:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-30-2021 05:33 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Was told this is the perfect coach and the perfect offense for this university.

By whom?

I don’t want to throw this person under the bus. Direct quote from someone at the top of the athletics hierarchy.

(11-01-2021 11:52 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2021 11:30 AM)Houston Owl 2 Wrote: [ -> ]A 1-6 team that wasn't playing their top four receivers (as of the start of the season).

A 1-6 team that was starting two cornerbacks who were receivers at the start the season.

A 1-6 team that was starting their fourth team defensive backs.

I'm not sure about the secondary, but they had some of their top receivers. Their top two receivers on the year (Burns and Pirtle) both played most of the game for UNT.

In terms of Rice being better at every position, that was wrong too. UNT's DL was solid and vastly better than ours. #97 was all over the field, and their freshmen DE twins are future stars. Which makes the running strategy even more stupid by Bloomgren and the OC (unless I guess they felt the OL couldn't protect long enough to get the passes thrown?).

This was definitely the case. Constantine was rarely afforded even an uncomfortable pocket whether or not we kept a back in to block. A lot of his more electric plays were scramble drills when he kept his eyes downfield (and dangerously across field) longer than a lot of college QBs. I think he only actually ran the ball on such plays twice the entire game, and I don't think he made an egregiously bad throwing decision on any of them.

(11-01-2021 01:23 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-31-2021 09:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-30-2021 05:33 PM)RiceOwls2019 Wrote: [ -> ]Was told this is the perfect coach and the perfect offense for this university.

By whom?

I don’t want to throw this person under the bus. Direct quote from someone at the top of the athletics hierarchy.

Can we instead put that person ON the bus?

I mean seriously... if someone in a position to hire coaches thinks that a version of smash-mouth football is a perfect offense for a University that has been consistently out-athleted for 50+ years then I'd really like to speak to that person.

(11-01-2021 02:31 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ]Can we instead put that person ON the bus?

I mean seriously... if someone in a position to hire coaches thinks that a version of smash-mouth football is a perfect offense for a University that has been consistently out-athleted for 50+ years then I'd really like to speak to that person.

If we could put together an all-star team of the best athletes from the last 15 or so years, we would not have 10% of the athletes that Texas A&M has right now - on their 2nd team.

Another Monday morning without a press conference makes me more despondent.

(11-01-2021 03:32 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]Another Monday morning without a press conference makes me more despondent.

In my opinion Bloomgren is highly unlikely to be fired during the season, and if he does it will be the Monday after Rice's 7th loss.

Rice has unfortunately built a track record of being okay with mediocrity in football. Bloomgren being fired today would have floored me.

(11-01-2021 04:00 PM)Seventyniner Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2021 03:32 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: [ -> ]Another Monday morning without a press conference makes me more despondent.

In my opinion Bloomgren is highly unlikely to be fired during the season, and if he does it will be the Monday after Rice's 7th loss.

Rice has unfortunately built a track record of being okay with mediocrity in football. Bloomgren being fired today would have floored me.

Yep!

I responded in part to bump this back to the top.

If we lose this weekend, the path to six wins gets very difficult.

(11-05-2021 05:24 PM)Ourland Wrote: [ -> ]If we lose this weekend, the path to six wins gets very difficult.

I am a bit conflicted. I want guys like Elijah Garcia to get to a bowl game. But doing so would reinforce a warped belief in "the process" that is not a viable long-term solution for Rice.