(10-03-2021 10:44 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 08:13 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2021 09:27 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2021 08:24 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: [ -> ] (10-02-2021 05:22 PM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]it's amazing that we have so many MD's on this board! I didn't even know Memphis had a medical school...
It doesn't take an MD to be able to see what's been going on. 
How you been doing? 
He's a pharmacy tech who believes hydroxychloroquine is dangerous to take.
I said it can cause blindness. (it can)
It can cause blindness for people who use it for a VERY long time, which some people do when they have lupus or other conditions. The blindness is temporary and returns normally when the person is taken off of hydroxy for a period of time. Something that even the dumbest of pharmacy techs should know. Especially given how often this drug is administered.
Which has nothing to do with the normal use of hydroxychloroquine for treating covid. How many people went blind from using it for covid? Zero.
And also a complete numbnut pharmacy tech would refer to a drug in use since the 70's as a horse dewormer. You know, that same de-wormer that knocked out Indias covid pandemic? Yea, that one.
The horse dewormer didn’t knock out India’s COVID. It was cow dung.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8239506/
(10-04-2021 12:54 AM)memtigbb Wrote: [ -> ]Dont you wear a hazmat suit, gloves, rubber boots, mask AND a face shield? Didnt you post a picture of yourself in the politics station looking like you just arrived from an alien infestation?
that was what they had us wear when we're giving shots. (so yeah, I wore it most the day) They have now backed off to surgical mask and gloves which is far more comfortable.
(10-04-2021 03:01 AM)McNavia93 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 11:05 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 09:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 10:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 10:44 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]It can cause blindness for people who use it for a VERY long time, which some people do when they have lupus or other conditions. The blindness is temporary and returns normally when the person is taken off of hydroxy for a period of time. Something that even the dumbest of pharmacy techs should know. Especially given how often this drug is administered.
Which has nothing to do with the normal use of hydroxychloroquine for treating covid. How many people went blind from using it for covid? Zero.
And also a complete numbnut pharmacy tech would refer to a drug in use since the 70's as a horse dewormer. You know, that same de-wormer that knocked out Indias covid pandemic? Yea, that one.
please...
Quote:Hydroxychloroquine retinopathy
It is known that some people who take
hydroxychloroquine for more than five years
and/or in high doses are at increased risk of
damage to their retina, the light sensitive layer
of cells at the back of the eye. This is known as
retinal toxicity or retinopathy...
Severe retinopathy, especially in the central area
called the macula, causes significant, irreversible
sight loss.
https://www.rcophth.ac.uk/wp-content/upl...raft-1.pdf
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Wait... you're a pharamacist and you don't even know that ivermectin is an actual drug that's prescribed to humans?
pharmacy tech. Which means he pulls the sack of meds off the shelf and runs the credit card.
And he's still fooled by a fake hydroxychloroquine study in the Lancet created by a porn star wannabe.
Chloroquine and Ivermectin are both on the World Health Organization’s list of essential medicines. Anyone who is interested can research this for themselves.
They are also generics, which means they are dirt cheap, which means big pharma and government officials arent going to be getting rich off of huge contract deals and kickbacks from them. WHich is why Fauci seems to have amnesia on those drugs now.
I mean, there was a REASON why the lancet ran a non-peer review study by a porn star wannabe that said hydroxychloroquine was killing people. Follow the money.
(10-04-2021 08:50 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (10-04-2021 03:01 AM)McNavia93 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 11:05 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 09:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 10:56 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ]please...
https://www.rcophth.ac.uk/wp-content/upl...raft-1.pdf
Wait... you're a pharamacist and you don't even know that ivermectin is an actual drug that's prescribed to humans?
pharmacy tech. Which means he pulls the sack of meds off the shelf and runs the credit card.
And he's still fooled by a fake hydroxychloroquine study in the Lancet created by a porn star wannabe.
Chloroquine and Ivermectin are both on the World Health Organization’s list of essential medicines. Anyone who is interested can research this for themselves.
They are also generics, which means they are dirt cheap, which means big pharma and government officials arent going to be getting rich off of huge contract deals and kickbacks from them. WHich is why Fauci seems to have amnesia on those drugs now.
I mean, there was a REASON why the lancet ran a non-peer review study by a porn star wannabe that said hydroxychloroquine was killing people. Follow the money.
They’re essential medicines because hydrochloroquine is paramount to fight malaria (caused by parasites) which has some anti-viral properties and ivermectin for human use is a breakthrough anti-parasetic. Which also means they are, fundamentally, not aimed at targeting viruses. If you’re going to take one, stick with chloroquine but remdesivir is FDA approved. And the new Merk’s anti-viral for CoVID is coming.
(10-05-2021 01:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-co...ases-masks
Maybe it means nothing or is a coincidence. Maybe those not wearing masks are social distancing more, while those wearing masks have a false sense of security, are letting their guard down and the masks don't really stop the spread.
I honestly don't know what to think. It doesn't seem possible that the homemade masks could work very well, but on the other hand, it doesn't seem possible that they don't help at least a little bit.
Years ago, you could trust most doctors and medical experts. From 2020 onward, you can't trust anyone.
(10-05-2021 02:10 PM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 01:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-co...ases-masks
Maybe it means nothing or is a coincidence. Maybe those not wearing masks are social distancing more, while those wearing masks have a false sense of security, are letting their guard down and the masks don't really stop the spread.
I honestly don't know what to think. It doesn't seem possible that the homemade masks could work very well, but on the other hand, it doesn't seem possible that they don't help at least a little bit.
Years ago, you could trust most doctors and medical experts. From 2020 onward, you can't trust anyone.
It's funny the numbers worked out that way in California. Take a look at what happened with Delta in Shelby County. The peak in the floating average is a couple of days after the mask mandate. Now, you can argue that the masks might not have done that but instead the mandate caused a change in behavior... but the mandate itself clearly had an affect on the COVID rate in Shelby County.
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(10-04-2021 08:39 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: [ -> ] (10-04-2021 12:54 AM)memtigbb Wrote: [ -> ]Dont you wear a hazmat suit, gloves, rubber boots, mask AND a face shield? Didnt you post a picture of yourself in the politics station looking like you just arrived from an alien infestation?
that was what they had us wear when we're giving shots. (so yeah, I wore it most the day) They have now backed off to surgical mask and gloves which is far more comfortable.
So which science was correct: full hazmat or mask & glove?
If people are too lazy to verify what they read they likely should just stay completely ignorant.
The Shelby County numbers do show show correlation.
And the LA County Vs. Orange County...They are looking at Case Rates...They say they are similar to indicate that masks must not be working...
The next logical question is what were the numbers before the mask mandate and what are they now.
LA's Numbers are ~1/3 of what they were in their peak in August.
Orange Counties numbers are ~1/2 of what they were in their peak in August.
When you look at the entire picture it seems a little different...Seems to show some correlation there as well.
Simple google search...LA County Coronavirus Numbers
And Orange County Coronavirus Numbers...Charts are on the page.
(10-05-2021 04:18 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]If people are too lazy to verify what they read they likely should just stay completely ignorant.
The Shelby County numbers do show show correlation.
And the LA County Vs. Orange County...They are looking at Case Rates...They say they are similar to indicate that masks must not be working...
The next logical question is what were the numbers before the mask mandate and what are they now.
LA's Numbers are ~1/3 of what they were in their peak in August.
Orange Counties numbers are ~1/2 of what they were in their peak in August.
When you look at the entire picture it seems a little different...Seems to show some correlation there as well.
Simple google search...LA County Coronavirus Numbers
And Orange County Coronavirus Numbers...Charts are on the page.
I think the biggest and most important things about the masks.. it is a constant reminder to becareful. If you are walking around with a mask on, you are less likely to be randomly touching things, standing close to people, coughing/sneezing in an open directions, etc.
(10-05-2021 04:06 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 02:10 PM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 01:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-co...ases-masks
Maybe it means nothing or is a coincidence. Maybe those not wearing masks are social distancing more, while those wearing masks have a false sense of security, are letting their guard down and the masks don't really stop the spread.
I honestly don't know what to think. It doesn't seem possible that the homemade masks could work very well, but on the other hand, it doesn't seem possible that they don't help at least a little bit.
Years ago, you could trust most doctors and medical experts. From 2020 onward, you can't trust anyone.
It's funny the numbers worked out that way in California. Take a look at what happened with Delta in Shelby County. The peak in the floating average is a couple of days after the mask mandate. Now, you can argue that the masks might not have done that but instead the mandate caused a change in behavior... but the mandate itself clearly had an affect on the COVID rate in Shelby County.
It's more complicated than that. For the first 9 months of the pandemic, SC had numbers higher than the state of TN as a whole. This being, while SC had a mask mandate longer than any other county in TN. Then, as things became even more relaxed, SC numbers mysteriously went lower than the state - and have been since then.
To say the mask is the only variable to correlate this thing just doesn't work. If it did, then the mask caused higher numbers through the 1st half of the pandemic, but then magically helped numbers through the 2nd half.
(10-05-2021 05:01 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 04:06 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 02:10 PM)Stammers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-05-2021 01:30 PM)griffin Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.foxnews.com/health/orange-co...ases-masks
Maybe it means nothing or is a coincidence. Maybe those not wearing masks are social distancing more, while those wearing masks have a false sense of security, are letting their guard down and the masks don't really stop the spread.
I honestly don't know what to think. It doesn't seem possible that the homemade masks could work very well, but on the other hand, it doesn't seem possible that they don't help at least a little bit.
Years ago, you could trust most doctors and medical experts. From 2020 onward, you can't trust anyone.
It's funny the numbers worked out that way in California. Take a look at what happened with Delta in Shelby County. The peak in the floating average is a couple of days after the mask mandate. Now, you can argue that the masks might not have done that but instead the mandate caused a change in behavior... but the mandate itself clearly had an affect on the COVID rate in Shelby County.
It's more complicated than that. For the first 9 months of the pandemic, SC had numbers higher than the state of TN as a whole. This being, while SC had a mask mandate longer than any other county in TN. Then, as things became even more relaxed, SC numbers mysteriously went lower than the state - and have been since then.
To say the mask is the only variable to correlate this thing just doesn't work. If it did, then the mask caused higher numbers through the 1st half of the pandemic, but then magically helped numbers through the 2nd half.
I’ve posted it here before. Every one of those peaks led to a mask mandate before severely dropping off. It’s hard to compare mask mandate stuff before the vaccine was available.
(10-03-2021 05:34 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 01:22 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Close the thread already.
Fukk no I do not trust the government to tell me the truth. When have they ever when it didn't align with the current social narrative? They haven't gotten anything right since WWII. Fukked up in Korea, fukked up in Vietnam, etc. etc.....
Before this thread is closed...
"Haven't gotten anything right since WWII"? Really? bluebacker, I hope your anti-U.S. Government rant is just pent-up frustration, exacerbated by an emotional response to this controversial topic. Without posting a list here, I would say OUR GOVERNMENT has gotten WAY MORE right than it got wrong since WWII. Many of the things we got right will never be known to the American public because of the sensitive/secret nature of the information/intelligence. I worked for the U.S. Government for 25 years, even survived a bombing attack by an anti-government extremist, and still think this is the best place to live on the planet. I worked in Europe for three years then lived in Central America for three years after that, and can say many Americans have no idea how good they have it living in
God's Country (USA). I do, however, share your frustration with declining morals and a society that is increasingly ignorant of the pitfalls of socialism. I just wish people would vent in a manner that avoids blanket condemnation of the entire U.S. Government, because that's what socialists love.
(10-05-2021 06:37 PM)Virginia Tiger Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 05:34 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 01:22 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Close the thread already.
Fukk no I do not trust the government to tell me the truth. When have they ever when it didn't align with the current social narrative? They haven't gotten anything right since WWII. Fukked up in Korea, fukked up in Vietnam, etc. etc.....
Before this thread is closed...
"Haven't gotten anything right since WWII"? Really? bluebacker, I hope your anti-U.S. Government rant is just pent-up frustration, exacerbated by an emotional response to this controversial topic. Without posting a list here, I would say OUR GOVERNMENT has gotten WAY MORE right than it got wrong since WWII. Many of the things we got right will never be known to the American public because of the sensitive/secret nature of the information/intelligence. I worked for the U.S. Government for 25 years, even survived a bombing attack by an anti-government extremist, and still think this is the best place to live on the planet. I worked in Europe for three years then lived in Central America for three years after that, and can say many Americans have no idea how good they have it living in God's Country (USA). I do, however, share your frustration with declining morals and a society that is increasingly ignorant of the pitfalls of socialism. I just wish people would vent in a manner that avoids blanket condemnation of the entire U.S. Government, because that's what socialists love.
I agree with a lot of what you have said. Those who want so much change don't realize just what it is like outside of this country.
But, as to his point.. even you are saying most we wont know about because of the sensitive/secretive nature. All we get are the dribble down lies and untruths. It makes trusting the government impossible when you know just about everything they release to the public is twisted in whatever current agenda is in the works.
(10-05-2021 06:37 PM)Virginia Tiger Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 05:34 PM)bluebacker Wrote: [ -> ] (10-03-2021 01:22 PM)aardWolf Wrote: [ -> ]Close the thread already.
Fukk no I do not trust the government to tell me the truth. When have they ever when it didn't align with the current social narrative? They haven't gotten anything right since WWII. Fukked up in Korea, fukked up in Vietnam, etc. etc.....
Before this thread is closed...
"Haven't gotten anything right since WWII"? Really? bluebacker, I hope your anti-U.S. Government rant is just pent-up frustration, exacerbated by an emotional response to this controversial topic. Without posting a list here, I would say OUR GOVERNMENT has gotten WAY MORE right than it got wrong since WWII. Many of the things we got right will never be known to the American public because of the sensitive/secret nature of the information/intelligence. I worked for the U.S. Government for 25 years, even survived a bombing attack by an anti-government extremist, and still think this is the best place to live on the planet. I worked in Europe for three years then lived in Central America for three years after that, and can say many Americans have no idea how good they have it living in God's Country (USA). I do, however, share your frustration with declining morals and a society that is increasingly ignorant of the pitfalls of socialism. I just wish people would vent in a manner that avoids blanket condemnation of the entire U.S. Government, because that's what socialists love.
God’s Country? I used to believe that. But, it’s a BLATANT LIE. Just look at MSM. Turn on your television or radio and what you will see and hear are the polar opposite of what was taught by the Apostles, Paul in particular who was very well educated on the Hebrew way.
Nope, this country is on the same level as Ancient Rome less the slaves for decay. My eyes have been opened. Remember I was blind but now I see. There are some that can see but are still blind.
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