(09-14-2021 11:16 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:58 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to play the market size game... ;-)
Springfield, MO
73rd TV market
Largest alumni base outside of the Springfield, MO market, St. Louis is #23 and next largest, Kansas City, is 32nd.
I like Missouri St if we get stuck in CUSA and need to call up an FCS program. You guys and JMU are the only FCS schools I would consider.
Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
(09-15-2021 08:07 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 11:16 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:58 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to play the market size game... ;-)
Springfield, MO
73rd TV market
Largest alumni base outside of the Springfield, MO market, St. Louis is #23 and next largest, Kansas City, is 32nd.
I like Missouri St if we get stuck in CUSA and need to call up an FCS program. You guys and JMU are the only FCS schools I would consider.
Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
(09-15-2021 08:25 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:07 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 11:16 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:58 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to play the market size game... ;-)
Springfield, MO
73rd TV market
Largest alumni base outside of the Springfield, MO market, St. Louis is #23 and next largest, Kansas City, is 32nd.
I like Missouri St if we get stuck in CUSA and need to call up an FCS program. You guys and JMU are the only FCS schools I would consider.
Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
(09-15-2021 08:53 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:25 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:07 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 11:16 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:58 PM)MSUBear42 Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to play the market size game... ;-)
Springfield, MO
73rd TV market
Largest alumni base outside of the Springfield, MO market, St. Louis is #23 and next largest, Kansas City, is 32nd.
I like Missouri St if we get stuck in CUSA and need to call up an FCS program. You guys and JMU are the only FCS schools I would consider.
Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
You would be suprised how many football fans look for whatever football is on especially in apps.
(09-15-2021 09:09 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:53 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:25 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:07 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 11:16 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ]I like Missouri St if we get stuck in CUSA and need to call up an FCS program. You guys and JMU are the only FCS schools I would consider.
Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
You would be suprised how many football fans look for whatever football is on especially in apps.
I agree that there are a lot. I'm one of those people. I get Youtube TV for the football season, which has a lot of channels, and before that I would just browse the ESPN app for games with a borrowed login.
That said, my father in law has football on every single time we go visit. Never any particular team, but it's always on an OTA channel. I don't think he knows where ESPN is on his guide, and he's certainly not going to apps to find games.
While the landscape is changing, in the context of the next 5-10 years of everyone's media contracts, the old guy demographic is still a very real piece of the viewership pie.
(09-12-2021 08:58 PM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (09-12-2021 08:36 PM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]Based on the posts of BigHouston, Attack and Pesik, they want us to add teams which will cause us to fail. Seems strange since we helped you succeed.
the opposite....
1st off me and attack have completely opposite ideas on teams...we don't even align
he says "win now" team (App state , la tech, Louisiana type teams)..maximize the immediate tv deal
i say long-term potential teams (ga states, umass charlotte type teams, doesn't have to be these) and infuse them with tons of tv exposure and the aac branding..
if they arent great in the short term- easy wins to make smu look better for the next realignment (i think on per-team basis {after divided 10-12 ways}, i don't think the tv money will be that much different no matter who is added)
if you are stuck in the aac, you want teams that can challenge the big 12 at some point .. sure these teams cant compete with the big 12 short-term but maybe can in the future, but who has a path to 50k fans and 4star recruits in 10years . I like the school with 54k enrollment, in a mega recruiting hotbed, in a metro of 6million people
we arent even preaching the same message .... and i think you are referencing the fact that both of us have referenced rice. no one is advocating for rice, but noting the presidents will strongly consider them based on the past
I've been fantasizing about what App State would look like with conference branding, ABC games, Saturday ESPN games, etc.
(09-15-2021 09:23 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 09:09 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:53 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:25 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:07 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote: [ -> ]Market size was big in the last round of realignment. Now not as much. If the B10 were doing it all over again I don’t think they take Rutgers and Maryland. It hasn’t worked out well. It’s about fans and winning programs. It’s about streaming and PPV moving forward. You’ve got to have fans for that. It’s Boise, SDSU (they almost joined the BE/AAC before) Army. If they don’t work out it’s UAB and App. I’m not sure there are 2 others that work. Maybe Marshall and one more (Louisiana, ?) if you want 4 instead of 2.
They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
You would be suprised how many football fans look for whatever football is on especially in apps.
I agree that there are a lot. I'm one of those people. I get Youtube TV for the football season, which has a lot of channels, and before that I would just browse the ESPN app for games with a borrowed login.
That said, my father in law has football on every single time we go visit. Never any particular team, but it's always on an OTA channel. I don't think he knows where ESPN is on his guide, and he's certainly not going to apps to find games.
While the landscape is changing, in the context of the next 5-10 years of everyone's media contracts, the old guy demographic is still a very real piece of the viewership pie.
Exactly. My Papaw watches football all day on Saturdays. He watches every Marshall and WVU game that is on the actual TV. If it's not on TV then he will just find another game to watch. He's 81. He's not going to mess with apps and streaming.
(09-15-2021 11:43 AM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 09:23 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 09:09 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:53 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:25 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ]They would do exactly the same. The B1G is on the East Coast now and those alumni, fans and associated people will turn on their TVs for Rutgers and Maryland confrence games they would otherwise not care about.
That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
You would be suprised how many football fans look for whatever football is on especially in apps.
I agree that there are a lot. I'm one of those people. I get Youtube TV for the football season, which has a lot of channels, and before that I would just browse the ESPN app for games with a borrowed login.
That said, my father in law has football on every single time we go visit. Never any particular team, but it's always on an OTA channel. I don't think he knows where ESPN is on his guide, and he's certainly not going to apps to find games.
While the landscape is changing, in the context of the next 5-10 years of everyone's media contracts, the old guy demographic is still a very real piece of the viewership pie.
Exactly. My Papaw watches football all day on Saturdays. He watches every Marshall and WVU game that is on the actual TV. If it's not on TV then he will just find another game to watch. He's 81. He's not going to mess with apps and streaming.
My point is that for those who use apps and streaming it is the same.
(09-14-2021 07:07 PM)FrankyP Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 05:50 PM)All4One Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be surprised if AAC officials visited some schools that aren't even being talked about, but Louisiana-Lafayette is one of the top teams in the Sun Belt, so it would make sense that they visit schools that fit a unique national profile, which Lafayette has. They would probably be a good addition, but Tulane would likely block them.
...no with the whole Tulane blocking us crap. That was never going to happen, and especially not now: there was a whole lot of bonding since both schools have been working closely on covid-19 research.
The idea of Tulane blocking another Louisiana school seems like a bit of a stretch. A Tulane/Louisiana rivalry could boost attendance and viewership for both schools.
If 6/8 of the AAC schools vote to add a new member, it will be added. No single member can "block" a team on their own.
It's in the AAC's best interests to add the strongest possible FB/BB schools, and that would be their major consideration. LLU and LTU are two of the strongest programs that are under consideration.
(09-14-2021 01:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]...which of UAB, LaTech, Buffalo, and AppSt would cause Memphis to fail?
If the MW schools are off the table----the four schools I think the presidents could very well end up selecting are currently among the very top performers in CUSA, MAC, or the Sunbelt...
Those four schools would definitely strengthen the AAC:
AAC East:
AAC 1.0:
Cincy,
UCF, ECU, Temple, UConn, & USF
AAC 2.0:
App St./VCU, Buffalo,
UAB, ECU, Temple, & USF
AAC West:
AAC 1.0:
Houston, Marshall, Navy/WSU, SMU, Tulane, & Tulsa
AAC 2.0:
LaTech, Marshall, Navy/WSU, SMU, Tulane, & Tulsa
(09-15-2021 12:06 PM)Milwaukee Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 07:07 PM)FrankyP Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 05:50 PM)All4One Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't be surprised if AAC officials visited some schools that aren't even being talked about, but Louisiana-Lafayette is one of the top teams in the Sun Belt, so it would make sense that they visit schools that fit a unique national profile, which Lafayette has. They would probably be a good addition, but Tulane would likely block them.
...no with the whole Tulane blocking us crap. That was never going to happen, and especially not now: there was a whole lot of bonding since both schools have been working closely on covid-19 research.
The idea of Tulane blocking another Louisiana school seems like a bit of a stretch. A Tulane/Louisiana rivalry could boost attendance and viewership for both schools.
If 6/8 of the AAC schools vote to add a new member, it will be added. No single member can "block" a team on their own.
It's in the AAC's best interests to add the strongest possible FB/BB schools, and that would be their major consideration. LLU and LTU are two of the strongest programs that are under consideration.
Yeah both Louisiana Tech and Louisiana are solid programs.
Maybe a Tulane fan can jump in, but I believe they prefer “Tech” over “ULL”. Recruiting competition was biggest reason I read. LaTech recruits Texas more apparently.
(09-15-2021 11:45 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 11:43 AM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 09:23 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 09:09 AM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 08:53 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: [ -> ]That's valid, but the games are on TV. The lower you go down on the chain, the less chance there is of a casual fan flipping over to your game.
OTA: ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox
then
Basic Cable: ESPN/ESPN 2/etc
then
Extended Cable: ESPNU/CBSSN/FS1
then
Streaming on a TV: ESPN+
then
Streaming on...your phone(honestly don't know how this works and need to figure out by Saturday)?: Facebook
You would be suprised how many football fans look for whatever football is on especially in apps.
I agree that there are a lot. I'm one of those people. I get Youtube TV for the football season, which has a lot of channels, and before that I would just browse the ESPN app for games with a borrowed login.
That said, my father in law has football on every single time we go visit. Never any particular team, but it's always on an OTA channel. I don't think he knows where ESPN is on his guide, and he's certainly not going to apps to find games.
While the landscape is changing, in the context of the next 5-10 years of everyone's media contracts, the old guy demographic is still a very real piece of the viewership pie.
Exactly. My Papaw watches football all day on Saturdays. He watches every Marshall and WVU game that is on the actual TV. If it's not on TV then he will just find another game to watch. He's 81. He's not going to mess with apps and streaming.
My point is that for those who use apps and streaming it is the same.
Yes. That I agree with. Honestly from a personal standpoint I actually like the Facebook games. No commercials and lot of info on the teams etc.
But its terrible from an exposure standpoint.
So as good as ULL has been lately they only draw 15-20K per game?
(09-15-2021 01:32 PM)b2b Wrote: [ -> ]So as good as ULL has been lately they only draw 15-20K per game?
Lousisana used to draw a lot more before Hudspeth screwed every mom in attendance.
(09-14-2021 11:02 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:47 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:39 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:21 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ]Rice gives us nothing, no fans, no market. Aside from baseball, they seem to care less about athletics. Marshall, App St, UAB even Coastal Car or Louisiana would be much better choices.
And yet they, UAB and Marshall are all being seriously considered.
Tulane, ECU, and Temple we’re all added and none were the current hot team. Hell, Memphis at the time wasn’t great… but they had so much more than just a couple winning seasons.
You don’t build for the future by adding a flash in the pan.
you can choose to go marketz and thats a fair strategy. If you want a big TV market where no one cares or watches then definitely look elsewhere.
But App is not a flash in the pan. Inviting CCU on their 1 good season would be a flash in the pan invite. We have 2 losing seasons over the last 30 years.
But if you are going to go marketz, stay away from Marshall.
Huntington is the #75 TV Market with 427k homes....and we actually control this market. We are also the #2 team in our state and get a lot of casual eyeballs because of that. WV only has two D1 teams... WVU and Marshall.
Is our market huge compared to Houston? No. Is our market huge when compared to Boone, NC? Yes.
Either way, marketz are over rated. Both Marshall and App draw eyeballs above our market because we have actual brands that casual fans recognize.
I am sorry....but you keep bragging about running the #75 market.
That's like claiming your backyard in the name of Spain. Nice thought but um...
I should hope you dominate the #75 market
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I wouldn’t be so cocky. Marshall’s viewership numbers dwarf everyone in the Sunbelt.
They may have the 75th market but it looks like every damn one of them is turning on the game.
I’ve heard their name along with some MWC teams and UAB the most. The people I talk to all give at a minimum of $50k a year on a recurring basis.
(09-15-2021 07:50 AM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:21 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 07:58 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t see any Louisiana school being added. With Tulane rising, there is no need to create any impediment. We also cover most of the state with Tulane already.
We’re gonna look for new markets and Louisiana isn’t large enough to have multiple schools. Look at the AAC. Two states got multiple teams… Texas and florida. The #2 and 3 largest population states.
It’s another reason that I don’t see App State. Marshal, Rice, UAB all give us new markets. No overlap… and no overlap is better than even moderate overlap.
Rice gives us nothing, no fans, no market. Aside from baseball, they seem to care less about athletics. Marshall, App St, UAB even Coastal Car or Louisiana would be much better choices.
And yet they, UAB and Marshall are all being seriously considered.
Tulane, ECU, and Temple we’re all added and none were the current hot team. Hell, Memphis at the time wasn’t great… but they had so much more than just a couple winning seasons.
You don’t build for the future by adding a flash in the pan.
And you don't build for the future adding Rice, who brings no fans, no market (who watches Rice?) & doesn't win - past, present or future. And BTW, our university president made clear the criteria, Rice doesn't fit it....I'm a donor too, lol.
It’s not like I am advocating for them. Every person I have talked to has heard their name. It could be because we are looking for a solid academic add with an amazing market… like we did when we took Tulane. That’s working out for us pretty well. Love Tulane!
I honestly don’t care if they get in or not, but I think many people on here are gonna be surprised as to who is added.
Everyone is trying to add one single definition of what will be added. Look at last time. How much did Tulane and ECU have in common? SMU and UCF, what was the commonality there.
Teams will be added that fit what the PRESIDENTS want. ADs have no true say in all of this.
We have I think 5 or 6 teams that are right at the top 100 and higher. Tulane, SMU, USF, Temple and Navy all have high academic ratings. It’s gonna be important to those presidents that we maintain that. It won’t be ignored.
Let’s be honest, if we had to take App State or UAB… um, it’s a no brainer. UAB has solid tv numbers and their academics are right in line with those schools. That’s not my personal opinion or me knocking app state. It’s what a president of an academic institute is gonna look at. Two similar types of teams, but one “fits” better.
Also, geography is gonna okay a role. We’re not gonna pack 4 super eastern teams in. That will just piss off our western teams.
So much will go into this, and the “obvious” choices many times won’t make it. Look at all the “hot” schools that never got invited to the AAC.
(09-15-2021 03:12 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 11:02 PM)panama Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 10:47 PM)herdfan129 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:39 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:21 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]And yet they, UAB and Marshall are all being seriously considered.
Tulane, ECU, and Temple we’re all added and none were the current hot team. Hell, Memphis at the time wasn’t great… but they had so much more than just a couple winning seasons.
You don’t build for the future by adding a flash in the pan.
you can choose to go marketz and thats a fair strategy. If you want a big TV market where no one cares or watches then definitely look elsewhere.
But App is not a flash in the pan. Inviting CCU on their 1 good season would be a flash in the pan invite. We have 2 losing seasons over the last 30 years.
But if you are going to go marketz, stay away from Marshall.
Huntington is the #75 TV Market with 427k homes....and we actually control this market. We are also the #2 team in our state and get a lot of casual eyeballs because of that. WV only has two D1 teams... WVU and Marshall.
Is our market huge compared to Houston? No. Is our market huge when compared to Boone, NC? Yes.
Either way, marketz are over rated. Both Marshall and App draw eyeballs above our market because we have actual brands that casual fans recognize.
I am sorry....but you keep bragging about running the #75 market.
That's like claiming your backyard in the name of Spain. Nice thought but um...
I should hope you dominate the #75 market
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I wouldn’t be so cocky. Marshall’s viewership numbers dwarf everyone in the Sunbelt.
They may have the 75th market but it looks like every damn one of them is turning on the game.
I’ve heard their name along with some MWC teams and UAB the most. The people I talk to all give at a minimum of $50k a year on a recurring basis.
Interesting and glad to hear. Things at Marshall are tight lipped right now, which is actually unusual. We don't know if that's a good sign or a bad sign.
People who live in cities with pro towns probably have a hard time understanding that Marshall is our pro team, and even though I wasn't alive during the plane crash, it's something that is taught to us when we are very young. To say the locals are passionate about the program and truly appreciate it would be an understatement.
(09-15-2021 03:26 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (09-15-2021 07:50 AM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:21 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 08:08 PM)Atlanta Wrote: [ -> ] (09-14-2021 07:58 PM)mtmedlin Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t see any Louisiana school being added. With Tulane rising, there is no need to create any impediment. We also cover most of the state with Tulane already.
We’re gonna look for new markets and Louisiana isn’t large enough to have multiple schools. Look at the AAC. Two states got multiple teams… Texas and florida. The #2 and 3 largest population states.
It’s another reason that I don’t see App State. Marshal, Rice, UAB all give us new markets. No overlap… and no overlap is better than even moderate overlap.
Rice gives us nothing, no fans, no market. Aside from baseball, they seem to care less about athletics. Marshall, App St, UAB even Coastal Car or Louisiana would be much better choices.
And yet they, UAB and Marshall are all being seriously considered.
Tulane, ECU, and Temple we’re all added and none were the current hot team. Hell, Memphis at the time wasn’t great… but they had so much more than just a couple winning seasons.
You don’t build for the future by adding a flash in the pan.
And you don't build for the future adding Rice, who brings no fans, no market (who watches Rice?) & doesn't win - past, present or future. And BTW, our university president made clear the criteria, Rice doesn't fit it....I'm a donor too, lol.
It’s not like I am advocating for them. Every person I have talked to has heard their name. It could be because we are looking for a solid academic add with an amazing market… like we did when we took Tulane. That’s working out for us pretty well. Love Tulane!
I honestly don’t care if they get in or not, but I think many people on here are gonna be surprised as to who is added.
Everyone is trying to add one single definition of what will be added. Look at last time. How much did Tulane and ECU have in common? SMU and UCF, what was the commonality there.
Teams will be added that fit what the PRESIDENTS want. ADs have no true say in all of this.
We have I think 5 or 6 teams that are right at the top 100 and higher. Tulane, SMU, USF, Temple and Navy all have high academic ratings. It’s gonna be important to those presidents that we maintain that. It won’t be ignored.
Let’s be honest, if we had to take App State or UAB… um, it’s a no brainer. UAB has solid tv numbers and their academics are right in line with those schools. That’s not my personal opinion or me knocking app state. It’s what a president of an academic institute is gonna look at. Two similar types of teams, but one “fits” better.
Also, geography is gonna okay a role. We’re not gonna pack 4 super eastern teams in. That will just piss off our western teams.
So much will go into this, and the “obvious” choices many times won’t make it. Look at all the “hot” schools that never got invited to the AAC.
It may be a no-brainer, and if it is, my bet would be on the AAC taking App. State - if they would be willing to join as a FB member and play their olympic sports in another conference.
It would be a no-brainer because the AAC
would (a) be getting the nation's #1 (win %) FBS school and (b) would be able to add a perennial NCAA tournament school such as VCU (a R1 university), thereby "killing two birds with one stone."
I love when people don’t read, respond emotionally and don’t make any sense at all. Then we get to hear it 400 more times in multiple threads.
UAB will get in over App state everyday and twice on Sunday. It won’t be close.
Whether I like it or not I'll believe a small market school is added when I see it. It took the Big East getting raided down to basically no one and ECU averaging close to 50k a game while actually being good at the time to get a FB only invite behind Tulane. Not an insult to any of the small market teams out there but ECU was a different animal at that time and they still tried to avoid adding us like the plague. I am also guessing the fact that we've been pretty awful ever since joining and struggle to keep up financially is not going to be lost on the presidents of other schools. If ECU struggles to run 50 million+ budgets I don't see any way App or Marshall will be able to do it.