Boise State and San Diego State to the AAC?
It looks like some smoke here since the MWC got a bad tv deal package. I am wondering if ESPN is behind this since their prize jewel of Boise State was taken away from them from the MWC commish?
Sigh....you and the Cincinnati.com guy have terrible reading comprehension
(01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
(01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too. That said, if the 5-1-2 playoff is coming, then Army may see the need to get into a conference for reasonable access to the playoff (mainly because Navy and AF would have better access).
Per Dennis Dodd: All of this hinges on the CFP going to 8 teams and the AAC being guaranteed to be one of the 8. This would be football only invites. Boise State and San Diego State would still have to place their Olympic sports elsewhere. And there probably would be a 3rd team invited. My take: Under these circumstances BYU could possibly consider joining the American for football and leaving their Olympic sports in the WCC because a shot at the CFP might entice them.
(01-14-2021 09:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too.
If Navy wants to keep playing in the west division they might invite Army.
Perhaps the AAC will ultimately go not just to 14 but all the way to 16.
West: SDSU, Boise St, AFA, Colorado St, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy
East: Tulane, Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF, Army
Offer the western schools all sport memberships. 16 FB/15 BB.
(01-14-2021 09:42 PM)SMUstang Wrote: [ -> ]Per Dennis Dodd: All of this hinges on the CFP going to 8 teams and the AAC being guaranteed to be one of the 8. This would be football only invites. Boise State and San Diego State would still have to place their Olympic sports elsewhere. And there probably would be a 3rd team invited. My take: Under these circumstances BYU could possibly consider joining the American for football and leaving their Olympic sports in the WCC.
My interpretation is the idea is to cut the MWC off at the pass and claim the NY6 bowl every year with a chance setting themselves up if the G5 spot becomes a playoff spot.
(01-14-2021 09:42 PM)SMUstang Wrote: [ -> ]Per Dennis Dodd: All of this hinges on the CFP going to 8 teams and the AAC being guaranteed to be one of the 8. This would be football only invites. Boise State and San Diego State would still have to place their Olympic sports elsewhere. And there probably would be a 3rd team invited. My take: Under these circumstances BYU could possibly consider joining the American for football and leaving their Olympic sports in the WCC.
That seems incredibly unlikely
(01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
What is lost in the shuffle is at the time the CFP deal was signed and Boise St recommitted to the MWC there was slim prospects for the AAC lasting and questions of whether it would be regularly the top G5 conferences.
Much of that doubt is now cast out. AAC is so far ahead top to bottom of the other G5 conferences that even with a few losses it would still be the best.
(01-14-2021 09:42 PM)SMUstang Wrote: [ -> ]Per Dennis Dodd: All of this hinges on the CFP going to 8 teams and the AAC being guaranteed to be one of the 8. This would be football only invites. Boise State and San Diego State would still have to place their Olympic sports elsewhere. And there probably would be a 3rd team invited. My take: Under these circumstances BYU could possibly consider joining the American for football and leaving their Olympic sports in the WCC because a shot at the CFP might entice them.
Boise & SDSU take two of the better football properties in the G5 away from the MWC. Curious who else might come too. BYU is probably the preferred AAC option but taking another valuable property from the MWC or CUSA/Belt could be the play too.
Hawaii already has non-fb parked elsewhere.
App State has a name and recent success
Army has non-fb parked elsewhere and is nationally known.
Interesting to think about.
This is just the same retread Thamel article.
Nothing to see here .....
(01-14-2021 09:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too. That said, if the 5-1-2 playoff is coming, then Army may see the need to get into a conference for reasonable access to the playoff (mainly because Navy and AF would have better access).
I don't see BYU making that move right now.
Army makes sense, but perhaps it's contingent on the rest of the plan coming together?
West: Boise State, San Diego State, SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Navy, Tulane
East: Army, Temple, Cincinnati, East Carolina, UCF, USF, Memphis
If Army and Navy are in the same league though, when do you play their game?
(01-14-2021 09:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too. That said, if the 5-1-2 playoff is coming, then Army may see the need to get into a conference for reasonable access to the playoff (mainly because Navy and AF would have better access).
I would think BYU would be interested. They can be as good a candidate for a P5 expansion slot just as well as they are as an indy. They would have a realistic shot at the access bowl that they don't have now and if a playoff spot is granted to the best G5 they would be in the right conference for that opportunity.
(01-14-2021 09:53 PM)solohawks Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:42 PM)SMUstang Wrote: [ -> ]Per Dennis Dodd: All of this hinges on the CFP going to 8 teams and the AAC being guaranteed to be one of the 8. This would be football only invites. Boise State and San Diego State would still have to place their Olympic sports elsewhere. And there probably would be a 3rd team invited. My take: Under these circumstances BYU could possibly consider joining the American for football and leaving their Olympic sports in the WCC.
That seems incredibly unlikely
I dont think thats what Dodd actually said. Dodd said the belief out there is the 5-1-2 eight-team playoff is coming. He said the expansion was based on the idea of creating a conference where the AAC would essentially dominate that "G5 slot" in a 5-1-2 playoff. It would not be a "guaranteed" slot for the AAC. It would simply be a slot the AAC would be built to win most of the time as a near "best of the rest" national conference.
(01-14-2021 11:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too. That said, if the 5-1-2 playoff is coming, then Army may see the need to get into a conference for reasonable access to the playoff (mainly because Navy and AF would have better access).
I don't see BYU making that move right now.
Army makes sense, but perhaps it's contingent on the rest of the plan coming together?
West: Boise State, San Diego State, SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Navy, Tulane
East: Army, Temple, Cincinnati, East Carolina, UCF, USF, Memphis
If Army and Navy are in the same league though, when do you play their game?
It works if their in different divisions. You just schedule cross-division and avoid that matchup. They play each other as a non-conference game.
BYU would not surprise me. They are pretty OK as they are, so could negotiate for whatever concessions they may want for themselves. It would be good for them, but definitely not a critical issue.
They are kind a loose fitting puzzle piece that floats around out there. It could fit in and fill a space in many different scenarios.
North Dakota State could be football only since they are good against P5 and it would keep MWC and MAC from taking them.
(01-15-2021 02:09 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]North Dakota State could be football only since they are good against P5 and it would keep MWC and MAC from taking them.
The only radar North Dakota State is on is the Macs radar at most. The school doesn't really help either the AAC or the MWC. The AAC is trying to portray themselves as a potential P6 team and getting a FCS call up doesn't scream P6.
If I'm the MWC in my mind I'm hoping Boise State goes. I'd honestly look at getting rid of Wyoming and add UTEP and NMSU. Boise State olympic sports go to the WAC in exchange for NMSU.. For the west 12th team (to fill Hawaii's olympic sport spot) I'd look at a middle WCC team. Gonzaga said no already so would teams like Loyla maramount, santa Clara or who ever say no to the MWC? You have the West focused in California and Nevada and the East in New Mexico and Colorado. You also most likely stop WAC FBS hopes.
In this scenario both teams stay at 12. If the AAC wants to go to 14 maybe look at 2 eastern teams if Navy wants to stay in the west. Let's say App state and a 14th school. For sale of convince a C-USA team. C-USA stays at 12 and the Sun Belt expands back to 10. (12 if they think the Big 12 is going to do something)