It makes no sense for Boise or SDSU to join the AAC until they know what is going to happen to the Big XII specifically. If they lose 2 or 4 teams, then the AAC will more than likely lose 4 of their current 7 football members. AAC immediately loses their appeal for SDSU and Boise unless they just can’t stand being in the MWC. Everyone knows that all the AAC schools want the P5 invite and would ditch their “P6” the minute they came calling.
(01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
(01-16-2021 04:16 PM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 03:15 PM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 11:18 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 02:27 AM)Sactowndog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 12:54 PM)46566 Wrote: [ -> ]I could see that. The only reason I didn't mention them was they are new to D1 and I didn't think San Diego State would want another San Diego school in conference. I'm guessing that San Diego State is staying in the MWC. It was mostly pick the best option california school not Saint mary's.i don't think Saint Mary would leave the WCC.
Losing Boise State almost signals a move to being a basketball focused conference. It's more trying to retain the current payout or limiting travel costs. Basically use divisions for scheduling purposes in basketball. Home and away in division and have only 2 home and away teams in the other division. The remaining teams are either played home or away. It'll be a 18 game conference schedule.
It depends on who the AAC takes. The best case scenario Boise State is the only one who leaves on their own. If the MWC loses anymore then they have less wiggle room.
UCSD could screw SDSU in more ways than just taking their spot in athletics. SDSU doctoral programs are all joint programs with UCSD. If UCSD pulled out of those agreements SDSU’s Academic ranking would fall dramatically.
UCSD is too classy to screw SDSU like that. They won't pull out of their doctoral agreements. But at the very least, they did throw a wrench in SDSU's backup plans by taking away their safety net.
UCSD was hell bent on getting into the Big West and playing with their fellow UCs. SDSU's remaining with the Mountain West allowed that to happen. UCSD's AD was adamant about being in a league alongside several UCs.
They're not going to ditch that to play Wyoming, Air Force and New Mexico. The only league UCSD will bolt for is the Pac 12.
Which keeps SDSU out of the Big West. Forget basketball metrics. The greatest potential harm to SDSU's program would be the rise of the Tritons. If UCSD starts defeating them on the court, that combined with their superior academic and research rankings will vault the Tritons to the front of the Pac 12 line, even without football.
You obviously know the inner-workings more than me. UCSD is a sleeping giant.
It's not knowing the inner-workings so much as it's common sense. UCSD's academic rankings dwarf SDSU's. The egghead presidents and chancellors who vote on membership loves that stuff. Also, UC is preferred to Cal State.
I was speaking more of the athletic side and their ambitions. Which I don’t believe is common sense otherwise they’d be in the Pac with a football team and a 70k seat stadium. I’m not from California nor do I reside there.
(01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
(01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
(01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
Which is why I'm sure ESPN wants more east coast eyeballs on them, during east coast viewer-friendly time slots.
(01-16-2021 04:46 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote: [ -> ]It makes no sense for Boise or SDSU to join the AAC until they know what is going to happen to the Big XII specifically. If they lose 2 or 4 teams, then the AAC will more than likely lose 4 of their current 7 football members. AAC immediately loses their appeal for SDSU and Boise unless they just can’t stand being in the MWC. Everyone knows that all the AAC schools want the P5 invite and would ditch their “P6” the minute they came calling.
I’ve been trying to press home this idea too. If everything operated in a vacuum this is the perfect move (and one I’ve even advocated for) but I think it’s important to see what happens in 2024 first. The AAC might not be as strong then.
(01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
(01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
To be fair---pretty sure ESPN has people who get paid a lot of money to analyze these sorts of considerations when they set their broadcast schedules. Its not like there is a law that all EST kickoffs must be at noon. If USC was playing Florida St---they would not put that game on at noon because they know it would do better in the afternoon or evening slot. I dont see this as a real issue. The travel and the olympic sports placement---those are real issues.
(01-16-2021 11:18 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 02:27 AM)Sactowndog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 12:54 PM)46566 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 10:25 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 09:44 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]If 2 or more schools leave the MWC and 1 of them is Boise St then the MWC would be in for a haircut for media deals. At that point its likely the only 2 schools interested in joining would be NMSU and UTEP so I hope it happens.
I could see the MWC presidents being very interested in UCSD for Olympic sports.
I could see that. The only reason I didn't mention them was they are new to D1 and I didn't think San Diego State would want another San Diego school in conference. I'm guessing that San Diego State is staying in the MWC. It was mostly pick the best option california school not Saint mary's.i don't think Saint Mary would leave the WCC.
Losing Boise State almost signals a move to being a basketball focused conference. It's more trying to retain the current payout or limiting travel costs. Basically use divisions for scheduling purposes in basketball. Home and away in division and have only 2 home and away teams in the other division. The remaining teams are either played home or away. It'll be a 18 game conference schedule.
It depends on who the AAC takes. The best case scenario Boise State is the only one who leaves on their own. If the MWC loses anymore then they have less wiggle room.
UCSD could screw SDSU in more ways than just taking their spot in athletics. SDSU doctoral programs are all joint programs with UCSD. If UCSD pulled out of those agreements SDSU’s Academic ranking would fall dramatically.
UCSD is too classy to screw SDSU like that. They won't pull out of their doctoral agreements. But at the very least, they did throw a wrench in SDSU's backup plans by taking away their safety net.
UCSD was hell bent on getting into the Big West and playing with their fellow UCs. SDSU's remaining with the Mountain West allowed that to happen. UCSD's AD was adamant about being in a league alongside several UCs.
They're not going to ditch that to play Wyoming, Air Force and New Mexico. The only league UCSD will bolt for is the Pac 12.
Which keeps SDSU out of the Big West. Forget basketball metrics. The greatest potential harm to SDSU's program would be the rise of the Tritons. If UCSD starts defeating them on the court, that combined with their superior academic and research rankings will vault the Tritons to the front of the Pac 12 line, even without football.
That possibility is a long ways away. UCSD just began its transition into Division I athletics this school year, and their teams won't be eligible for NCAA championships until fall 2024, whereas SDSU's basketball team is at the top of the MWC and would have been a top-3 seed in last year's NCAA tournament if it had been played. UCSD basketball has no shot at catching SDSU's program in this decade unless SDSU rapidly craters.
(01-16-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ]But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
Boise State is still under contract to ESPN for a few more years. MWC can't sell CBS-Sports any rights while Boise's contract is still going with ESPN. CBS-Sports have to wait until Boise's contract with ESPN is up which Boise is looking to leave for them to keep the contract. If they join the AAC? They will get a pay raise. If they stay? Their pay would be cut.
(01-16-2021 09:15 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 11:18 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 02:27 AM)Sactowndog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 12:54 PM)46566 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 10:25 AM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ]I could see the MWC presidents being very interested in UCSD for Olympic sports.
I could see that. The only reason I didn't mention them was they are new to D1 and I didn't think San Diego State would want another San Diego school in conference. I'm guessing that San Diego State is staying in the MWC. It was mostly pick the best option california school not Saint mary's.i don't think Saint Mary would leave the WCC.
Losing Boise State almost signals a move to being a basketball focused conference. It's more trying to retain the current payout or limiting travel costs. Basically use divisions for scheduling purposes in basketball. Home and away in division and have only 2 home and away teams in the other division. The remaining teams are either played home or away. It'll be a 18 game conference schedule.
It depends on who the AAC takes. The best case scenario Boise State is the only one who leaves on their own. If the MWC loses anymore then they have less wiggle room.
UCSD could screw SDSU in more ways than just taking their spot in athletics. SDSU doctoral programs are all joint programs with UCSD. If UCSD pulled out of those agreements SDSU’s Academic ranking would fall dramatically.
UCSD is too classy to screw SDSU like that. They won't pull out of their doctoral agreements. But at the very least, they did throw a wrench in SDSU's backup plans by taking away their safety net.
UCSD was hell bent on getting into the Big West and playing with their fellow UCs. SDSU's remaining with the Mountain West allowed that to happen. UCSD's AD was adamant about being in a league alongside several UCs.
They're not going to ditch that to play Wyoming, Air Force and New Mexico. The only league UCSD will bolt for is the Pac 12.
Which keeps SDSU out of the Big West. Forget basketball metrics. The greatest potential harm to SDSU's program would be the rise of the Tritons. If UCSD starts defeating them on the court, that combined with their superior academic and research rankings will vault the Tritons to the front of the Pac 12 line, even without football.
That possibility is a long ways away. UCSD just began its transition into Division I athletics this school year, and their teams won't be eligible for NCAA championships until fall 2024, whereas SDSU's basketball team is at the top of the MWC and would have been a top-3 seed in last year's NCAA tournament if it had been played. UCSD basketball has no shot at catching SDSU's program in this decade unless SDSU rapidly craters.
Those academics aren't going away and SDSU still has that Cal State label on them.
(01-16-2021 10:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ]Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
Boise State is still under contract to ESPN for a few more years. MWC can't sell CBS-Sports any rights while Boise's contract is still going with ESPN. CBS-Sports have to wait until Boise's contract with ESPN is up which Boise is looking to leave for them to keep the contract. If they join the AAC? They will get a pay raise. If they stay? Their pay would be cut.
Incorrect. Boise didn't have one game on ESPN this year.
https://broncosports.com/sports/football/schedule/2020
(01-16-2021 10:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ]Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
Boise State is still under contract to ESPN for a few more years. MWC can't sell CBS-Sports any rights while Boise's contract is still going with ESPN. CBS-Sports have to wait until Boise's contract with ESPN is up which Boise is looking to leave for them to keep the contract. If they join the AAC? They will get a pay raise. If they stay? Their pay would be cut.
No, FOX replaced ESPN as the rights holder.
Mountain West signs with CBS Sports & FOX Sports Media Group
Quote:The deal with Fox marks the first time that the Mountain West has partnered with the cable network, which replaces ESPN as its secondary partner.
Fox gains exclusive rights to Boise State home football games and to the Mountain West Football Championship game, while it will also carry a full slate of football and men’s basketball games each year across its linear platforms.
Boise State I believe was upset that they turned away ESPN (which probably didn't offer the money that FOX did) and the other members want the next TV deal to be equally shared, no more special treatment. That upset Boise State too, but they have no where to go. The Mountain West should just continue to pump out the best schedules they can and win. I do think FOX picked up the Mountain West because they won't re-up with the Pac-12 at the price they want, it's a safety move.
(01-14-2021 09:47 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 09:22 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ] (01-14-2021 08:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]Dennis Dodd on the same topic---
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-loose...-76232695/
If the AAC is really talking to both schools then they either want only one of them or both plus a 3rd school because they are not shooting for 13 football schools. Its either 12 or 14. So one more would be one of BYU, CSU or AFA.
Dodd says they want 3. Boise, SDSU and a "mystery" school. He doesnt know who it is--but says he's pretty sure it isnt BYU. Says he heard Army mentioned---but doesnt really know. Army seems far fetched too.
If Navy wants to keep playing in the west division they might invite Army.
Perhaps the AAC will ultimately go not just to 14 but all the way to 16.
West: SDSU, Boise St, AFA, Colorado St, Tulsa, SMU, Houston, Navy
East: Tulane, Memphis, Cincinnati, Temple, East Carolina, UCF, USF, Army
Offer the western schools all sport memberships. 16 FB/15 BB.
Maybe they'll go to 70 teams just for the hell of it.
(01-15-2021 12:36 PM)bill dazzle Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:36 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]The reason I said North Dakota State as the third team to the AAC is that if they go to the MAC? The AAC champ may get 1 loss while NDSU could go 13-0 by winning the MAC championship, and they could go to the G5 access bowl or a 8 team playoff ahead of the AAC champ for many years.
New Mexico State will never get an invite to the MWC while New Mexico is still there. I would look at Sacramento State to the west to replace SDSU and UTEP on the east.
There is always the risk of a 13-0 Sun Belt, C-USA or MAC team getting the NY6 nod, DavidSt.
But the optics of adding NDST might not be ideal for the AAC.
What do you mean? He's under the some impression that they are the best academic and athletic school in the land. My mistake, he thinks that's Boise State.
(01-16-2021 08:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
To be fair---pretty sure ESPN has people who get paid a lot of money to analyze these sorts of considerations when they set their broadcast schedules. Its not like there is a law that all EST kickoffs must be at noon. If USC was playing Florida St---they would not put that game on at noon because they know it would do better in the afternoon or evening slot. I dont see this as a real issue. The travel and the olympic sports placement---those are real issues.
You're giving them too much credit, ESPN is pretty clueless about most things.
(01-17-2021 12:47 AM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 10:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
Boise State is still under contract to ESPN for a few more years. MWC can't sell CBS-Sports any rights while Boise's contract is still going with ESPN. CBS-Sports have to wait until Boise's contract with ESPN is up which Boise is looking to leave for them to keep the contract. If they join the AAC? They will get a pay raise. If they stay? Their pay would be cut.
Incorrect. Boise didn't have one game on ESPN this year.
https://broncosports.com/sports/football/schedule/2020
That's the what it should be. They should always be on a lower rated hard to find network at an inconvenient time for the fans.
(01-17-2021 12:47 AM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 10:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 07:52 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 06:27 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote: [ -> ]ESPN is no longer involved with the MWC. FOX1 and 2 and CBSSN do still give BSU preferential treatment but not sure its quite the same.
ESPN still gets the best Boise State games than CBS-Sports and FS1. Boise State is still under ESPN's contract and they sell the rights of their home games like against Idaho State to CBS-Sports.
No.
The MWC new contract is with CBS and Fox. They are guarenteed a certain number of OTA games and will split the other selections to go on CBSsports and FS1/2.
Previously the MW contract was with CBSsports and ESPN for Boise games. The new contract began this year and ends in 2026 or 2027. It was an increase pay out and the cause of Boise looking around when the other MW schools first tried to not pay, didn't get special approval, and then told Boise they would no longer pay the extra of the sweetheart deal. Boise took the MW to court and shopped around for another home.
Boise State is still under contract to ESPN for a few more years. MWC can't sell CBS-Sports any rights while Boise's contract is still going with ESPN. CBS-Sports have to wait until Boise's contract with ESPN is up which Boise is looking to leave for them to keep the contract. If they join the AAC? They will get a pay raise. If they stay? Their pay would be cut.
Incorrect. Boise didn't have one game on ESPN this year.
https://broncosports.com/sports/football/schedule/2020
Correct. ESPN has no MW football games anymore. CBS and FOX have all the rights to the MW.
(01-17-2021 01:57 AM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 08:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 05:11 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: [ -> ] (01-16-2021 04:39 PM)BKTopper Wrote: [ -> ] (01-15-2021 11:25 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: [ -> ]If I’m Boise St and San Diego St, I’m waiting to see what happens in 2024 with the P5 before I commit to any moves.
The Big 12 could take a big hit and some of the AAC schools would be first in line as replacements. The balance of power between the AAC and MWC maybe soon equalizing, if not tipping in the MWC’s favor.
But the MWC will never have the east coast eyeballs the AAC can give these 2 programs.
Boise doesn’t need the AAC for that. They get preferential treatment from ESPN and the average Joe knows who they are. SDSU? Good luck attracting viewers in San Diego at 9am Pacific time when they play on the road against AAC East teams.
To be fair---pretty sure ESPN has people who get paid a lot of money to analyze these sorts of considerations when they set their broadcast schedules. Its not like there is a law that all EST kickoffs must be at noon. If USC was playing Florida St---they would not put that game on at noon because they know it would do better in the afternoon or evening slot. I dont see this as a real issue. The travel and the olympic sports placement---those are real issues.
You're giving them too much credit, ESPN is pretty clueless about most things.
lol...Ive actually listened to a few interviews with the guys who actually do the game and broadcast window selections before. It actually pretty interesting stuff. The last one I heard was on the podcast called the "The Audible" with Stewart Mandel and Bruce Feldman.