(07-18-2020 07:50 AM)ChooChoo Wrote: [ -> ]I have it as do both my parents. I’ve had symptoms for over two weeks and the fatigue is crippling. Both of my parents have been to the ER 3 separate times and sent home because of lack of Covid beds. My dad is currently in ICU and has been since Wednesday. He is suffering, hallucinating, and we can’t be with him. This stuff wreaks havoc on your mind, your breathing, and every facet of your life. Relatively healthy people can be taken out in days while some people show little to no signs. It angers me to no end to see people not take this seriously. Unfortunately it will eventually get to you or one of your loved ones. Just pray you’re on the merciful side of its effects.
Choo Choo, I certainly hope you and your family better health and that you guys overcome and survive this virus. I for one fall on the skeptical side of this argument, not that the virus is not real, it is, but I also think the timing and the circumstances greatly benefit those who do not like the freedom we had and booming economy that we also had. People like me are not saying the virus is not real or that people are not suffering, we are just saying that there are too many weird circumstances and coincidences for there not to be nefarious activity going on. Why did the virus have a patent on it from the Gates foundation, why was money given to the Wuhan clinic from the previous administration, why does people like Fauci have money invested in that same clinic, why are big pharma pushing a new drug that the wealthy have stock in versus discrediting drugs that are already out there and showing good results and much much cheaper. Why are doctors saying that wearing a mask helps not spread the virus when other research is showing that it doesn't. These are all things that I think about, not because I'm a conspiracy theorist but because I refuse to believe what people in power tell us, people that stand to benefit in power, control and money from us just blindly accepting their "truths". If there is one thing history can teach us and that is to not put blind faith in anyone in power. I'm always amazed when I encounter someone who gets all of their beliefs and information just off the US Network News.
Again I wish everyone who is suffering from this a speedy and full recovery.
Deano, after reading your post, I feel like you're someone who's heart is in the right place but has been exposed to a lot of information that has been warped, distorted or is flat out wrong. Here are some fact checks on a few things you mentioned. I really hope that you'll take a look with an open mind. I know you're first instinct may be to assume the fact-checkers are biased, but please consider that they have a ton of real evidence to back them up.
I appreciate the articles, I did read them and found the information interesting. My mind was changed on some points. I will say that there is alot of information on both sides of these issues and for every article that you can find supporting one side of the argument, there is someone out there who will find an article slanted the other way. My whole point is that I am a skeptical person in general and I've seen enough through my times in the service and downrange that I just don't trust the official message regardless of who puts it out.
Thank you for giving them a look and reconsidering some things. I think healthy skepticism is good and I try to maintain some myself, but we’ve got to make sure the skepticism cuts both ways.
Speaking to the mask are helpful theory. I'm sitting in the Docs office waiting room yesterday donning a mask as everyone else. The elderly lady sitting across from me is speaking at a distance to the nurse behind the desk. This goes on for several minutes. I noticed the elderly guy sitting to my left becoming shifty and angry and pretty quick realized the lady speaking is constantly holding, touching, positioning, and pooling on the tip of her mask. She's all over it. Literally nonstop! Talking seemed to displace the mask but also she was concerned that the nurse couldn't hear what she was saying so she'd pull it away from her face as she yelled. Clearly in our minds her hands were covered in Corona as she whaled about on the seat arm rest and whatever else she touched while in the physical therapy area we were there for. Is it best for the virus to dissipate or transfer by air or be transferred by touch? If the mask is a simple cotton mask it's little more than a virus incubator holding the virus for future convenient transfer... If you're asymptomatic how does the mask protect others? If your'e symptomatic the cough is dry and face in elbow works fine. If it turns out that touching one another or things that someone has touched is how much of the virus is transferred we've made another mistake.
(07-18-2020 09:29 AM)DeanoAPP Wrote: [ -> ]Choo Choo, I certainly hope you and your family better health and that you guys overcome and survive this virus. I for one fall on the skeptical side of this argument, not that the virus is not real, it is, but I also think the timing and the circumstances greatly benefit those who do not like the freedom we had and booming economy that we also had. People like me are not saying the virus is not real or that people are not suffering, we are just saying that there are too many weird circumstances and coincidences for there not to be nefarious activity going on. Why did the virus have a patent on it from the Gates foundation, why was money given to the Wuhan clinic from the previous administration, why does people like Fauci have money invested in that same clinic, why are big pharma pushing a new drug that the wealthy have stock in versus discrediting drugs that are already out there and showing good results and much much cheaper. Why are doctors saying that wearing a mask helps not spread the virus when other research is showing that it doesn't. These are all things that I think about, not because I'm a conspiracy theorist but because I refuse to believe what people in power tell us, people that stand to benefit in power, control and money from us just blindly accepting their "truths". If there is one thing history can teach us and that is to not put blind faith in anyone in power. I'm always amazed when I encounter someone who gets all of their beliefs and information just off the US Network News.
Again I wish everyone who is suffering from this a speedy and full recovery.
Deano, after reading your post, I feel like you're someone who's heart is in the right place but has been exposed to a lot of information that has been warped, distorted or is flat out wrong. Here are some fact checks on a few things you mentioned. I really hope that you'll take a look with an open mind. I know you're first instinct may be to assume the fact-checkers are biased, but please consider that they have a ton of real evidence to back them up.
I appreciate the articles, I did read them and found the information interesting. My mind was changed on some points. I will say that there is alot of information on both sides of these issues and for every article that you can find supporting one side of the argument, there is someone out there who will find an article slanted the other way. My whole point is that I am a skeptical person in general and I've seen enough through my times in the service and downrange that I just don't trust the official message regardless of who puts it out.
Thank you for giving them a look and reconsidering some things. I think healthy skepticism is good and I try to maintain some myself, but we’ve got to make sure the skepticism cuts both ways.
Speaking to the mask are helpful theory. I'm sitting in the Docs office waiting room yesterday donning a mask as everyone else. The elderly lady sitting across from me is speaking at a distance to the nurse behind the desk. This goes on for several minutes. I noticed the elderly guy sitting to my left becoming shifty and angry and pretty quick realized the lady speaking is constantly holding, touching, positioning, and pooling on the tip of her mask. She's all over it. Literally nonstop! Talking seemed to displace the mask but also she was concerned that the nurse couldn't hear what she was saying so she'd pull it away from her face as she yelled. Clearly in our minds her hands were covered in Corona as she whaled about on the seat arm rest and whatever else she touched while in the physical therapy area we were there for. Is it best for the virus to dissipate or transfer by air or be transferred by touch? If the mask is a simple cotton mask it's little more than a virus incubator holding the virus for future convenient transfer... If you're asymptomatic how does the mask protect others? If your'e symptomatic the cough is dry and face in elbow works fine. If it turns out that touching one another or things that someone has touched is how much of the virus is transferred we've made another mistake.
Can't protect yourself from everything no matter how hard you try.
(07-18-2020 09:29 AM)DeanoAPP Wrote: [ -> ]Choo Choo, I certainly hope you and your family better health and that you guys overcome and survive this virus. I for one fall on the skeptical side of this argument, not that the virus is not real, it is, but I also think the timing and the circumstances greatly benefit those who do not like the freedom we had and booming economy that we also had. People like me are not saying the virus is not real or that people are not suffering, we are just saying that there are too many weird circumstances and coincidences for there not to be nefarious activity going on. Why did the virus have a patent on it from the Gates foundation, why was money given to the Wuhan clinic from the previous administration, why does people like Fauci have money invested in that same clinic, why are big pharma pushing a new drug that the wealthy have stock in versus discrediting drugs that are already out there and showing good results and much much cheaper. Why are doctors saying that wearing a mask helps not spread the virus when other research is showing that it doesn't. These are all things that I think about, not because I'm a conspiracy theorist but because I refuse to believe what people in power tell us, people that stand to benefit in power, control and money from us just blindly accepting their "truths". If there is one thing history can teach us and that is to not put blind faith in anyone in power. I'm always amazed when I encounter someone who gets all of their beliefs and information just off the US Network News.
Again I wish everyone who is suffering from this a speedy and full recovery.
Deano, after reading your post, I feel like you're someone who's heart is in the right place but has been exposed to a lot of information that has been warped, distorted or is flat out wrong. Here are some fact checks on a few things you mentioned. I really hope that you'll take a look with an open mind. I know you're first instinct may be to assume the fact-checkers are biased, but please consider that they have a ton of real evidence to back them up.
I appreciate the articles, I did read them and found the information interesting. My mind was changed on some points. I will say that there is alot of information on both sides of these issues and for every article that you can find supporting one side of the argument, there is someone out there who will find an article slanted the other way. My whole point is that I am a skeptical person in general and I've seen enough through my times in the service and downrange that I just don't trust the official message regardless of who puts it out.
Thank you for giving them a look and reconsidering some things. I think healthy skepticism is good and I try to maintain some myself, but we’ve got to make sure the skepticism cuts both ways.
Speaking to the mask are helpful theory. I'm sitting in the Docs office waiting room yesterday donning a mask as everyone else. The elderly lady sitting across from me is speaking at a distance to the nurse behind the desk. This goes on for several minutes. I noticed the elderly guy sitting to my left becoming shifty and angry and pretty quick realized the lady speaking is constantly holding, touching, positioning, and pooling on the tip of her mask. She's all over it. Literally nonstop! Talking seemed to displace the mask but also she was concerned that the nurse couldn't hear what she was saying so she'd pull it away from her face as she yelled. Clearly in our minds her hands were covered in Corona as she whaled about on the seat arm rest and whatever else she touched while in the physical therapy area we were there for. Is it best for the virus to dissipate or transfer by air or be transferred by touch? If the mask is a simple cotton mask it's little more than a virus incubator holding the virus for future convenient transfer... If you're asymptomatic how does the mask protect others? If your'e symptomatic the cough is dry and face in elbow works fine. If it turns out that touching one another or things that someone has touched is how much of the virus is transferred we've made another mistake.
If you are asymptomatic you have the virus but you are not showing the normal signs such as fever, breathing problems, having strokes in some cases, having to be intubated. You have the virus and can spread it but are not showing signs basically.
Coughing into an elbow is better than nothing is better than nothing but even better is having a mask. Show me some research that states coughing into one's elbow is fine. I have never heard that. I have heard it suggested to be done as it helps, but that is not the same thing.
I think coughing/sneezing into one’s elbow isn’t necessarily to stop germs from getting out, but to keep one from coughing/sneezing into their hands and then touching things other people will also touch.
Are we following the science now or should we ignore this as it doesn’t fit the narrative?
SCIENCE ?? This is 'Merica . . . We don't use Science. We don't need no stinking Science . . .
Did we need Science when we put a Man on the Moon?
Did we need Science when we invented the A-Bomb?
Did we need Science when we invented the Personal Computer?
The cell-phone?
Micro-wave popcorn?
NO ! We didn't need no Science then, and we don't need no Science now . . . ..
I appreciate the well wishes. It’s been since July 2 since I showed symptoms. My mother and I both tested negative this week but continue to have shortnsss of breath, a cough, and fatigue. My dad is still testing potive in ICU and is in critical condition with new issues including blood clots. This virus is best described as hitting fast forward on your body. My dad wasn’t in great health but he was cleaning out the garage and working in the yard at the beginning of the month. Now he’s fighting for his life with issues that may have taken him out 10 years from now but shouldn’t be 2 weeks later.
I’ve had three friends each lose their mothers since my dad was admitted. Whether you choose to believe it will be the death of you is on you. But if you have an older loved one or someone you know with any history of health issues please consider them when you decide to make your way into the world. Are they not worth saving if you can prevent them possibly getting it? Is it not worth trying?
It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Someone not wearing a mask does not make them self absorbed. We've got this flawed view in this country of those who don't wear masks as those that go into stores and make a big show about not wearing one, or arguing and throwing a fit when asked to wear one.
The reality of the situation is there are people who don't wear masks, but also practice social distancing and stay away from vulnerable people.
Yelling at someone for not wearing a mask is no better than the person who intentionally doesn't wear a mask to make a scene.
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Someone not wearing a mask does not make them self absorbed. We've got this flawed view in this country of those who don't wear masks as those that go into stores and make a big show about not wearing one, or arguing and throwing a fit when asked to wear one.
The reality of the situation is there are people who don't wear masks, but also practice social distancing and stay away from vulnerable people.
Yelling at someone for not wearing a mask is no better than the person who intentionally doesn't wear a mask to make a scene.
If they are in a store or other public place without a mask then how do they know they are not near someone that is vulnerable?
Coastal's talking about doing at least the first three weeks of classes exclusively online! What about other Sun Belt schools? I was wondering about your Corona-restrictions. And as far as football goes, this season was going to be the inaugural Myrtle Beach Bowl at Brooks Stadium so who knows when it will actually debut...
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Been wearing a mask since April in public places. Don’t assume you know someone’s take of every facet of a subject based upon a few posts...
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Someone not wearing a mask does not make them self absorbed. We've got this flawed view in this country of those who don't wear masks as those that go into stores and make a big show about not wearing one, or arguing and throwing a fit when asked to wear one.
The reality of the situation is there are people who don't wear masks, but also practice social distancing and stay away from vulnerable people.
Yelling at someone for not wearing a mask is no better than the person who intentionally doesn't wear a mask to make a scene.
If they are in a store or other public place without a mask then how do they know they are not near someone that is vulnerable?
Its not hard honestly. If you are staying outdoors, just keep 6 feet away from others. If you are doing something like going shopping, do it late at night when there's no crowds, and make use of self checkouts.
I do all my shopping at 10pm. There's like 10 people in the entire store at that point, and I've been in and out in under 15 minutes every time. Mask or no mask, its been a wise decision.
(07-24-2020 09:39 PM)El Chanto Wrote: [ -> ]Coastal's talking about doing at least the first three weeks of classes exclusively online! What about other Sun Belt schools? I was wondering about your Corona-restrictions. And as far as football goes, this season was going to be the inaugural Myrtle Beach Bowl at Brooks Stadium so who knows when it will actually debut...
ULM is planning to start in-person August 17th. Most classes now have one of two hybrid models, and a lot of classes with older professors are online now.
Deano, after reading your post, I feel like you're someone who's heart is in the right place but has been exposed to a lot of information that has been warped, distorted or is flat out wrong. Here are some fact checks on a few things you mentioned. I really hope that you'll take a look with an open mind. I know you're first instinct may be to assume the fact-checkers are biased, but please consider that they have a ton of real evidence to back them up.
I appreciate the articles, I did read them and found the information interesting. My mind was changed on some points. I will say that there is alot of information on both sides of these issues and for every article that you can find supporting one side of the argument, there is someone out there who will find an article slanted the other way. My whole point is that I am a skeptical person in general and I've seen enough through my times in the service and downrange that I just don't trust the official message regardless of who puts it out.
Thank you for giving them a look and reconsidering some things. I think healthy skepticism is good and I try to maintain some myself, but we’ve got to make sure the skepticism cuts both ways.
Speaking to the mask are helpful theory. I'm sitting in the Docs office waiting room yesterday donning a mask as everyone else. The elderly lady sitting across from me is speaking at a distance to the nurse behind the desk. This goes on for several minutes. I noticed the elderly guy sitting to my left becoming shifty and angry and pretty quick realized the lady speaking is constantly holding, touching, positioning, and pooling on the tip of her mask. She's all over it. Literally nonstop! Talking seemed to displace the mask but also she was concerned that the nurse couldn't hear what she was saying so she'd pull it away from her face as she yelled. Clearly in our minds her hands were covered in Corona as she whaled about on the seat arm rest and whatever else she touched while in the physical therapy area we were there for. Is it best for the virus to dissipate or transfer by air or be transferred by touch? If the mask is a simple cotton mask it's little more than a virus incubator holding the virus for future convenient transfer... If you're asymptomatic how does the mask protect others? If your'e symptomatic the cough is dry and face in elbow works fine. If it turns out that touching one another or things that someone has touched is how much of the virus is transferred we've made another mistake.
If you are asymptomatic you have the virus but you are not showing the normal signs such as fever, breathing problems, having strokes in some cases, having to be intubated. You have the virus and can spread it but are not showing signs basically.
Coughing into an elbow is better than nothing is better than nothing but even better is having a mask. Show me some research that states coughing into one's elbow is fine. I have never heard that. I have heard it suggested to be done as it helps, but that is not the same thing.
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(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Someone not wearing a mask does not make them self absorbed. We've got this flawed view in this country of those who don't wear masks as those that go into stores and make a big show about not wearing one, or arguing and throwing a fit when asked to wear one.
The reality of the situation is there are people who don't wear masks, but also practice social distancing and stay away from vulnerable people.
Yelling at someone for not wearing a mask is no better than the person who intentionally doesn't wear a mask to make a scene.
If they are in a store or other public place without a mask then how do they know they are not near someone that is vulnerable?
Its not hard honestly. If you are staying outdoors, just keep 6 feet away from others. If you are doing something like going shopping, do it late at night when there's no crowds, and make use of self checkouts.
I do all my shopping at 10pm. There's like 10 people in the entire store at that point, and I've been in and out in under 15 minutes every time. Mask or no mask, its been a wise decision.
My question is, why try so hard to do everything but wear a mask? Why are people so obsessed with not wearing a mask when all the science says wearing one is exponentially more safe than not? 6ft-12ft Social distancing is supplementary. It does not keep you safe. Particles travel very easily.
(07-24-2020 03:25 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]It is clear we need to protect the elderly and those with preexisting coniditions.
This isn’t black and white, society can take precautions and get back to activities that educate our youth and provide ecomonic support for families while staying away from those that are most susceptible to the virus.
The logic that everyone must quarantine forever or you want others to die is a farce.
I wish you and your family only the best, I also wish the underprivileged child that doesn’t have the resources to supplement their education the ability learn fundamentals of reading, math, and social intelligence. It is possible to do both.
How about the logic of people wearing a mask in public so we don’t have to quarantine? But noooooo that’s too difficult and infringes on my constitutional right to be a self absorbed *******
Someone not wearing a mask does not make them self absorbed. We've got this flawed view in this country of those who don't wear masks as those that go into stores and make a big show about not wearing one, or arguing and throwing a fit when asked to wear one.
The reality of the situation is there are people who don't wear masks, but also practice social distancing and stay away from vulnerable people.
Yelling at someone for not wearing a mask is no better than the person who intentionally doesn't wear a mask to make a scene.
If they are in a store or other public place without a mask then how do they know they are not near someone that is vulnerable?
Its not hard honestly. If you are staying outdoors, just keep 6 feet away from others. If you are doing something like going shopping, do it late at night when there's no crowds, and make use of self checkouts.
I do all my shopping at 10pm. There's like 10 people in the entire store at that point, and I've been in and out in under 15 minutes every time. Mask or no mask, its been a wise decision.
I wish I could do that here. Even the 24-hour Walmart in Monroe closes at 8 now.
(07-06-2020 07:32 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting point. Because I don’t want to hear epidemiologists tell us when we should open businesses back up, because they are not economists.
Soooo, I guess in your mind ECONOMISTS should be the experts on a Health Care issue . . . . That's Brilliant thinkin' right there.
NEWS FLASH: Virus don't care about your economic plans . . . Don't care about your businesses . . . . Don't care when you want to reopen.
You want Business Back, you want customers to have faith/trust in returning to those businesses . . . .
Get the Virus under Control.
No. I want economists to be the experts on economic issues.
They all agree we’ve wrecked our economy, and we can’t continue to do so.
I don’t think Dr. Joe Blow Virus Alarmist understands the societal fallout from shutting down the economy indefinitely.
Look across the country right now. Murders are sky rocketing in the cities that locked down. This is just the beginning if the country shuts down again.
You want to talk about loss of life? Stop worrying about flu 2.0 and start worrying about Great Depression 2.0.
The US makes up approximately 4.5% of the World's Population, yet we lead the world in COVID cases, approximately 3 million and COVID Deaths, approximately 131,000.
Almost every other country dealing with this thing has managed to get it somewhat under control, flatten the curve, except The U.S.
Here, there is NO unified National Response to this crisis, Probably a major contributing factor to our inability to control the spread of the Disease.
The experts (scientists and Doctors not economists) warned the country that if states tried to open too soon, we'd see this thing spike again . . . . and here we are.
Almost every state that reopened early is seeing COVID spikes, and at least 20 states have now either stopped or reversed their attempted reopenings.
There are Hospitals in Fla. and TX that are rapidly approaching capacity. Your calling this "The Flu 2.0" is amusing, though I doubt Front line Doctors and Nurses who've been fighting this thing day in and day out would see any humor. Many of these people are working double shifts, some away from their families in order to limit infecting them, many have fallen by the wayside. BTW, lose enough Doctors and Nurses, and who is going to take care of the sick and dying? Your economists?
Nobody wants the country in lockdown indefinitely, sorry if this Health Care Emergency is an inconvenience to you. Everyone wants the economy reopened and a return to normalcy. But it's not going to happen just because you want it to, and it's not going to happen by ignoring this Virus. The virus don't care.
Like it or not, you get the economy back when you get the Virus under control , not the other way around.
No thanks. I’ll stick with the reopening now, thanks.
Already been through the whole discussion about the death count being bogus so I’m not going to rehash all of that.
By the way, spare me the lecture about the medical professionals. My brother is a doctor in a hospital, my younger sister is a nurse, and my mother is a nurse. They’re all in the hospital every day. I hear directly from them what they think about this, so you giving me your opinion of how they feel is irrelevant.
FWIW: Go back and actually read what I posted, I wasn’t giving a “lecture” about medical officials, nor was I giving an opinion on “how they feel.” Merely reporting what Medical Officials have themselves said on various media outlets.
BTW, Miami/Dade ICU’s reported to be at 146% capacity
(As of today).
.. . just thought I’d pass that along to you . . . you know . . . in case you didn’t get the “all encompassing” update from your brother, sister, mom, etc. . . ..