(05-06-2020 09:58 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 09:54 AM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 08:15 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]The offseason is where ECU posters really shine.
Because saying a dude that averaged 7.1ppg, 2.4apg with weak effiency on a #6 high school team in Jersey probably won't help us much NEXT YEAR is some hot take. Good god. The guy never even shot threes is a terrible fit on the 347th ranked 3 point shooting team. I don't know what's so crazy about any of that. That's all I said and then you literally got a dude saying his high school team would beat ECU and dragging me into this insanity.
So do you think some 18-8 , #6 team in NJ high school would beat ECU? Go ahead and get on the record. Let's hear it. Do you think a guy that made 13 three's in 26 games is a good fit on the #347th ranked three point shooting team? These are just the things I pushed back on I think any reasonable fan gets. It's not like I claimed a nothing special high school team could be a college team. Hey but if you believe that say it. It's your moment to shine, so man up or shut up.
context he doesnt want to ad.. all their top recruits missed games...most of their losses are to elite top 15 high school teams...who also have stacked rosters
he just wants to put 18-8 becuase you lack common sense as usual
WTF do you think putting the #6 ranking in New Jersey beside that is. That's the entire context, there is nothing else to spell out, that's everything which is what a ranking encompasses. They weren't even that great as a high school team goes and you want to talk about them beating a college team, we are litterally still arguing this nonsense. You clearly have no sense period.
Hell even if he's was on a good team who cares, it doesn't explain why he did nothing. Can't even get an assist or make an open shot as the 5th banana with no pressure and easy assist oppertunities. Good players find ways to shine even on good teams and contribute. This team wasn't anything special and he did very little positive on top of that even as a role player on that team. That's just the facts.
People complained about Mine and Forever's little chat ... and now you have a Jones/Pesik battle ... plus Miggy just entered the chat. Be careful what you wish for!
(05-06-2020 10:16 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ]Best players in high school regardless of class 2020 included:
247sports: https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Be...45652054_1
#2 JON KUMINGA
rivals: https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/...in-america
#4 Jonathan Kuminga
espn: https://twitter.com/espn/status/1255564506325024770
#5 Jonathan Kuminga
when did we get to a point of offseason delusion that we started believing ecu would be favored over any team with elite recruits
When a team is led by 16 year old Juniors that was nothing special to begin with even in high school. How about those facts? Games aren't played in 247 rankings last I checked and they went 18-8 and were #6 best in NJ and nearly lost to the local Farm team down the road here in 2A. That's just the reality. They weren't even that great of a team even in HS.
Tell me what Farrakan was ranked his Jr year? #22. You put way to much blind faith in high school rankings many of which are proven wrong every year. It's all pointless anyway, he still did nothing impressive on the court that was actually translated into much value. Make an open shot with 5th banana pressure, get an easy assist if you have all this talent around you, make a FT, do something.
(05-06-2020 10:07 AM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ]1) That's the entire context, there is nothing else to spell out,
2) Hell even if he's was on a good team who cares, it doesn't explain why he did nothing.
1) that is manipulation--thats like making a point specifically based around about wiseman and using memphis full season to judge....to state thats the entire context is crooked and deceitful
"wiseman wont be a star in the nba, he couldnt even get memphis into the tourney"
this is you: "memphis wasnt an atlarge thats the entire context"
2) there is only one basketball and minutes are decreased ... we've had this same convo about depth like 50 times ..
(05-06-2020 10:20 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: [ -> ]People complained about Mine and Forever's little chat ... and now you have a Jones/Pesik battle ... plus Miggy just entered the chat. Be careful what you wish for!
you guys were just trashing each others schools..that had very little to do with the sports..it wasnt it the convo, but where you guys were going
atleast we are taking about sports again...
(05-06-2020 10:29 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 10:20 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: [ -> ]People complained about Mine and Forever's little chat ... and now you have a Jones/Pesik battle ... plus Miggy just entered the chat. Be careful what you wish for!
you guys were just trashing each others schools..that had very little to do with the sports..it was it the convo, but where you guys were going
atleast we re taking about sports again...
Yes, but it was at least entertaining ...
(05-06-2020 09:54 AM)StillJonesing Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 08:15 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: [ -> ]The offseason is where ECU posters really shine.
Because saying a dude that averaged 7.1ppg, 2.4apg with weak effiency on a #6 high school team in Jersey probably won't help us much NEXT YEAR is some hot take. Good god. The guy never even shot threes is a terrible fit on the 347th ranked 3 point shooting team. I don't know what's so crazy about any of that. That's all I said and then you literally got a dude saying his high school team would beat ECU and dragging me into this insanity.
So do you think some 18-8 , #6 team in NJ high school would beat ECU? Go ahead and get on the record. Let's hear it. Do you think a guy that made 13 three's in 26 games is a good fit on the #347th ranked three point shooting team? These are just the things I pushed back on I think any reasonable fan gets. It's not like I claimed a nothing special high school team could be a college team. Hey but if you believe that say it. It's your moment to shine, so man up or shut up.
I don't have a strong opinion here. I am just enjoying the show.
(05-06-2020 10:29 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 10:20 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote: [ -> ]People complained about Mine and Forever's little chat ... and now you have a Jones/Pesik battle ... plus Miggy just entered the chat. Be careful what you wish for!
you guys were just trashing each others schools..that had very little to do with the sports..it wasnt it the convo, but where you guys were going
atleast we are taking about sports again...
Nothing like the "it counts, because it involves me" Pesik take.
Just to be clear, recruiting and rosters are definitely in the college sports talk realm. In particular talking about a kid who did or didn't make it on a thread about transfer, news, and discussions definitely counts.
Also I hate to say it but I agree with Pesik.
Jones goes up and down on Dooley and his coaching or recruiting etc. Nice to see some other ECU fans getting in on offseason basketball talk. I think it's safe to assume that Dooley has at least raised the program from the dead of three years ago.
(05-06-2020 09:55 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 08:47 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]Saying that Farrakhan’s HS team would beat ECU is way out there, but one would expect that from Pesik.
we are aware the #1 player in the country plays at farrakhans high school, aswell as 2 other top 30 recruits ...and that ecu was 11-20 with most wins coming from a trash ooc...where ecu lost to 300+ RPI coppin state by doouble digits
i said put his high school roster on any random college, and that college will be favored over ecu...that's not out there, that is common sense
I went to a scrimmage game and watched an average St.Benedict’s team come from 12-points down to lose to The Patrick team by 4-points.
The Patrick school not a well-coached team. Except for Kuminga and Farrahkhan their guards were awful as St. Benedict’s guard’s made steal after steal in their comeback. Kuminga is a tremendous player, but not exactly a team player, and does have chinks in his armor. St. Patrick’s bigs did nothing inside offensively.
Rather then look at rankings and player ratings, actually watch teams play.
(05-06-2020 04:53 PM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 09:55 AM)pesik Wrote: [ -> ] (05-06-2020 08:47 AM)Miggy Wrote: [ -> ]Saying that Farrakhan’s HS team would beat ECU is way out there, but one would expect that from Pesik.
we are aware the #1 player in the country plays at farrakhans high school, aswell as 2 other top 30 recruits ...and that ecu was 11-20 with most wins coming from a trash ooc...where ecu lost to 300+ RPI coppin state by doouble digits
i said put his high school roster on any random college, and that college will be favored over ecu...that's not out there, that is common sense
I went to a scrimmage game and watched an average St.Benedict’s team come from 12-points down to lose to The Patrick team by 4-points.
The Patrick school not a well-coached team. Except for Kuminga and Farrahkhan their guards were awful as St. Benedict’s guard’s made steal after steal in their comeback. Kuminga is a tremendous player, but not exactly a team player, and does have chinks in his armor. St. Patrick’s bigs did nothing inside offensively.
Rather then look at rankings and player ratings, actually watch teams play.
I've watched Sanogo. He is an absolute stud.
Well. I think I have to give someone else the throne of best transfer on the market. Mac McClung is in the portal. This kid is going to be an All-American before he is done.
(05-13-2020 07:50 PM)Joprior23 Wrote: [ -> ]Well. I think I have to give someone else the throne of best transfer on the market. Mac McClung is in the portal. This kid is going to be an All-American before he is done.
Virginia? North Carolina? He’d make either a final four contender.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...188699002/
He announces Friday. Fingers crossed....
(05-14-2020 02:35 AM)SadderBudweiser Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2020 07:50 PM)Joprior23 Wrote: [ -> ]Well. I think I have to give someone else the throne of best transfer on the market. Mac McClung is in the portal. This kid is going to be an All-American before he is done.
Virginia? North Carolina? He’d make either a final four contender.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...188699002/
Huh? Will have to sit a year. May declare again before he ever steps on a college court. Also, he is a good, not great college player. Will not make a team a final four team. You aren't adding a Sampson, Ewing, or David Robinson. You are adding a good guard.
(05-14-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]
He announces Friday. Fingers crossed....
When ECU blew out Evansville, this guy had 2 points and fouled out.
(05-14-2020 12:47 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: [ -> ]When ECU blew out Evansville, this guy had 2 points and fouled out.
exactly he fouled out quick and barely played..and had to be super cautious the minutes he was in for foul trouble
(05-14-2020 12:47 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2020 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]
He announces Friday. Fingers crossed....
When ECU blew out Evansville, this guy had 2 points and fouled out.
Despite the bad game, I think ECU would not deny him a scholarship. Do you agree or are programs like KY, Arkansas, Baylor, and Memphis foolish to pursue him?
Williams dealt with a back injury this past season, and only played 18 games, averaging 27 mpg. He averaged 15 pts, 7 RBs and 3 assists per game. Scored 9 vs. UK at Lexington. He also shot 46% from 3, 65% from the field, and 80% from the FT line.
He likely will get a waiver, since he lost 2 coaches last season.
Good to know ECU doesn't want him. I was sweating that out.
