(05-19-2021 03:03 PM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:20 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte has absolutely pulled their weight in putting CUSA on the map and has done this league proud.
Marshall hosted CLT this season, so I am guessing we will play in CLT next season. That should be a big match, and if it is the last match of the season like it was this year, it could decide the regular season champs.
I get the feeling that will be the case for some time. At least while we both hang onto our coaches. I just don't want to be a one off and fade away. We fought a lot of naysaying and condescension this year and I don't want those smug sonsabitches going well we knew it was a fluke.
The best thing for Charlotte would be for Grassie to stay, and for Marshall to continue to be a top team--and pain in our butt. We all need ranked opponents to be ranked, so it is a symbiotic relationship. For Grassie though, he may never have a better opportunity to write his own ticket than coming off the National Championship. Sure, if he makes it two in a row that is better, but so many things must go right for that to happen, and many of them require pure luck because soccer is a stupid game. So I hope he stays with you, but he would be a fool not to interview with some of the schools that are no doubt already calling him. Even if Marshall is his dream job, he will gain leverage he can use for his salary, staff salaries, facility upgrades, or whatever is on his list.
(05-19-2021 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 03:03 PM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:20 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte has absolutely pulled their weight in putting CUSA on the map and has done this league proud.
Marshall hosted CLT this season, so I am guessing we will play in CLT next season. That should be a big match, and if it is the last match of the season like it was this year, it could decide the regular season champs.
I get the feeling that will be the case for some time. At least while we both hang onto our coaches. I just don't want to be a one off and fade away. We fought a lot of naysaying and condescension this year and I don't want those smug sonsabitches going well we knew it was a fluke.
The best thing for Charlotte would be for Grassie to stay, and for Marshall to continue to be a top team--and pain in our butt. We all need ranked opponents to be ranked, so it is a symbiotic relationship. For Grassie though, he may never have a better opportunity to write his own ticket than coming off the National Championship. Sure, if he makes it two in a row that is better, but so many things must go right for that to happen, and many of them require pure luck because soccer is a stupid game. So I hope he stays with you, but he would be a fool not to interview with some of the schools that are no doubt already calling him. Even if Marshall is his dream job, he will gain leverage he can use for his salary, staff salaries, facility upgrades, or whatever is on his list.
clt says this is the truth. cusa schools need to invest in sports other than fb
(05-19-2021 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 03:03 PM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:20 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte has absolutely pulled their weight in putting CUSA on the map and has done this league proud.
Marshall hosted CLT this season, so I am guessing we will play in CLT next season. That should be a big match, and if it is the last match of the season like it was this year, it could decide the regular season champs.
I get the feeling that will be the case for some time. At least while we both hang onto our coaches. I just don't want to be a one off and fade away. We fought a lot of naysaying and condescension this year and I don't want those smug sonsabitches going well we knew it was a fluke.
The best thing for Charlotte would be for Grassie to stay, and for Marshall to continue to be a top team--and pain in our butt. We all need ranked opponents to be ranked, so it is a symbiotic relationship. For Grassie though, he may never have a better opportunity to write his own ticket than coming off the National Championship. Sure, if he makes it two in a row that is better, but so many things must go right for that to happen, and many of them require pure luck because soccer is a stupid game. So I hope he stays with you, but he would be a fool not to interview with some of the schools that are no doubt already calling him. Even if Marshall is his dream job, he will gain leverage he can use for his salary, staff salaries, facility upgrades, or whatever is on his list.
It would not shock me to see Grassie get a shot at the USMNT if he continues his success. Our national team is a complete dumpster fire.
(05-19-2021 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ]For Grassie though, he may never have a better opportunity to write his own ticket than coming off the National Championship. Sure, if he makes it two in a row that is better, but so many things must go right for that to happen, and many of them require pure luck because soccer is a stupid game.
In his 10 seasons as a collegiate head coach, Grassie has won 7 regular season conference championship, 7 conference tournament championships (out of 8 contested), he’s made 4 College Cups, produced 10 All-Americans, and now has a national title. (And that’s including the 2 rebuild years when he took over here at Marshall). Take away those two rebuild years, and he has won every conference trophy he has ever competed for except one - and he finished in second 2 points back in 1 season. I doubt he’s worried about getting cold anytime soon.
If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
(05-19-2021 05:42 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 03:18 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 03:03 PM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:20 PM)Nugget49er Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 02:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ]Charlotte has absolutely pulled their weight in putting CUSA on the map and has done this league proud.
Marshall hosted CLT this season, so I am guessing we will play in CLT next season. That should be a big match, and if it is the last match of the season like it was this year, it could decide the regular season champs.
I get the feeling that will be the case for some time. At least while we both hang onto our coaches. I just don't want to be a one off and fade away. We fought a lot of naysaying and condescension this year and I don't want those smug sonsabitches going well we knew it was a fluke.
The best thing for Charlotte would be for Grassie to stay, and for Marshall to continue to be a top team--and pain in our butt. We all need ranked opponents to be ranked, so it is a symbiotic relationship. For Grassie though, he may never have a better opportunity to write his own ticket than coming off the National Championship. Sure, if he makes it two in a row that is better, but so many things must go right for that to happen, and many of them require pure luck because soccer is a stupid game. So I hope he stays with you, but he would be a fool not to interview with some of the schools that are no doubt already calling him. Even if Marshall is his dream job, he will gain leverage he can use for his salary, staff salaries, facility upgrades, or whatever is on his list.
It would not shock me to see Grassie get a shot at the USMNT if he continues his success. Our national team is a complete dumpster fire.
I said that too, it would be awesome. You know he would turn it around. It would also help propel youth men's soccer to adapting to the international style. It would only do good things for all of us.
clt says this is getting absurd.
(05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
Uhhh, you don't get the USMNT gig by winning one college cup... Coach Grassie is the man but you don't hire a college coach with no professional coaching experience as the National team coach. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Now Marshall is the flagship of football and futbol
After missing 2 Olympics and a World Cup (losing to freaking Trinidad and Tobago in the final qualifier), the USMNT needs change and quickly. Simply unacceptable for a country with the resources we have.
As much as I love Coach Grassie, riley there is no way the USMNT is coming for him. You not only have to be a high caliber coach, you also have to be in the same circle and have connections.
Plus what Coach Grassie does best would serve no propose there or in a pro league. By identifying and developing players Grassie is more suited to be a college or ammature league coach. And not an ego manager.
If Coach Grassie's salary goes up from 120K to 180K from this year to next. Then it will be extremely hard to pull him away from Marshall. I don't have a list anywhere with salaries but Ive read a few things and have come to the conclusion that the avg salary for a DI men's soccer HC is somewhere between 48K and 62K per year. I read that was the avg somewhere around a 180 out of 205 men's soccer coaches. That means only 25 programs really believe in and invest in their head coach. If true you could probably go back through the last 10 years and see who was there and get just about every program there is except 2. Marshall being 1 and Seton Hall being the other.
(05-20-2021 12:21 AM)HerdZoned Wrote: [ -> ]As much as I love Coach Grassie, riley there is no way the USMNT is coming for him. You not only have to be a high caliber coach, you also have to be in the same circle and have connections.
Plus what Coach Grassie does best would serve no propose there or in a pro league. By identifying and developing players Grassie is more suited to be a college or ammature league coach. And not an ego manager.
If Coach Grassie's salary goes up from 120K to 180K from this year to next. Then it will be extremely hard to pull him away from Marshall. I don't have a list anywhere with salaries but Ive read a few things and have come to the conclusion that the avg salary for a DI men's soccer HC is somewhere between 48K and 62K per year. I read that was the avg somewhere around a 180 out of 205 men's soccer coaches. That means only 25 programs really believe in and invest in their head coach. If true you could probably go back through the last 10 years and see who was there and get just about every program there is except 2. Marshall being 1 and Seton Hall being the other.
clt says a voice of reason has arrived
(05-19-2021 11:31 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote: [ -> ]Now Marshall is the flagship of football and futbol
I will give you men's soccer but I would love for you to explain how you think you are the flagship in football
(05-19-2021 11:15 PM)herdthatandrew Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
Uhhh, you don't get the USMNT gig by winning one college cup... Coach Grassie is the man but you don't hire a college coach with no professional coaching experience as the National team coach. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Uhhhh.... Steve Sampson ring a bell, new guy? Or Bruce Arena? (He coached an MLS team for less than two years before being handed the reins of the USMNT).
(05-20-2021 06:14 AM)Dusky Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 11:31 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote: [ -> ]Now Marshall is the flagship of football and futbol
I will give you soccer but I would love for you to explain how you think you are the flagship in football
Well, we have been in the CCG three times winning one (yes, UAB,WKU, and FAU have one more), but no school in CUSA has a winning record against us. The closest is WKU and Middle each with three wins against us. Hell, Rice and Charlotte have more wins against us than FAU
(05-20-2021 08:50 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 11:15 PM)herdthatandrew Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
Uhhh, you don't get the USMNT gig by winning one college cup... Coach Grassie is the man but you don't hire a college coach with no professional coaching experience as the National team coach. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Uhhhh.... Steve Sampson ring a bell, new guy? Or Bruce Arena? (He coached an MLS team for less than two years before being handed the reins of the USMNT).
Yeah guys, geez. I was only saying hypothetical scenarios where he could actually leave. He's paid too well to leave for another college program, I could only see it being MLS or US Men's national team. Keep in mind, I don't think this is all we will see from coach Grassie. What if he strings together a series of national championship winning teams? It is absolutely not out of the realm of possibility.
It's just one scenario guys. Thanks for sticking up for me struck.
(05-20-2021 08:50 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 11:15 PM)herdthatandrew Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
Uhhh, you don't get the USMNT gig by winning one college cup... Coach Grassie is the man but you don't hire a college coach with no professional coaching experience as the National team coach. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Uhhhh.... Steve Sampson ring a bell, new guy? Or Bruce Arena? (He coached an MLS team for less than two years before being handed the reins of the USMNT).
Sampson wnet 64-19-19 and won a title at Santa Clara. If you look back in history, he wasn’t a great hire, and his World Cup was a disaster. Arena won 5 titles at Virginia, and had a record of 295-58-32 while there for 18 years. I have the upmost respect for Grassie and what he has done, but he isn’t even on the national radar at the moment. I doubt most soccer fans in America would even recognize his name, let alone where he coaches. Over time that may change.
The US also currently has a coach, and while I didn’t agree with the guy we chose, he has done nothing to concern me up to this point. We have a really good wave of young talent coming up, and I think we can be competitive at the next World Cup, with a real shot at a quality finish when it comes to the US in 2028. Maybe if the wheels fall off, we will need a new coach in 3 years, and Grassie’s name may be in the conversation at that point.
2020-21 Marshall Women's Soccer Schedule (3-7-0)
3 wins over east tenn state, lowly appy, and something called west va tech
clt says that is not a "flagship"
(05-20-2021 08:50 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 11:15 PM)herdthatandrew Wrote: [ -> ] (05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
Uhhh, you don't get the USMNT gig by winning one college cup... Coach Grassie is the man but you don't hire a college coach with no professional coaching experience as the National team coach. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Uhhhh.... Steve Sampson ring a bell, new guy? Or Bruce Arena? (He coached an MLS team for less than two years before being handed the reins of the USMNT).
Completely different era. The standard for coaching the USMNT is much different than it was pre mls and in the leagues infancy. It's apples to oranges.
(05-19-2021 06:59 PM)rileylives Wrote: [ -> ]If the US Men's national team came calling, it would be hard for coach Grassie to turn that down.
But his salary will now be 180,000 a year, I don't see another power team coming way over that.
So his destiny would either be a MLS coaching opportunity or the US Men's national team.
Regardless, coach has established himself as a Marshall legend. I can actually see us renaming that field as the Chris Grassie Veterans Memorial Park, or something to that effect.
How do you know his salary will grow to 180K? I haven’t heard that but that would be awesome. He and Hamrick were supposed to meet yesterday. I think he’ll stay a few years and have success. After that, who knows.