(06-11-2020 12:08 AM)MercerFan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a bad deal for the private schools involved in the “ASUN 7”. What do they get out of this? Some private schools have to join the UAC just to make it legal and then they’re going to be sent back to the ASUN? No private school should agree to this.
Only Liberty and Bellarmine, and it's just because, in order to do what they are doing, 7 schools have to be with each other for a certain amount of time. UNA, Liberty, and Bellarmine does not qualify. After the papers are done, they go right back, as if nothing happened. It's just a formality, but it's the NCAA rules.
UNA ans Kennessaw are the only 2 that are going to be separated from the ASUN that is currently in the ASUN.
I don't understand one thing.
If the purpose of the UAC is to come up with 8 public schools, that are in a tight geographic footprint, from three or four different conferences, that want to play like-minded schools, why are these 8 schools not playing each other now? Every season, each team has at least 3 and sometimes 4 out-of-conference games to play. Why then are so many schools in the Big South, OVC, SoCon, and the HBCU conferences having trouble scheduling in football and basketball, and have to resort to scheduling non-D1 teams?
(06-11-2020 08:23 AM)The Cats Wrote: [ -> ]I don't understand one thing.
If the purpose of the UAC is to come up with 8 public schools, that are in a tight geographic footprint, from three or four different conferences, that want to play like-minded schools, why are these 8 schools not playing each other now? Every season, each team has at least 3 and sometimes 4 out-of-conference games to play. Why then are so many schools in the Big South, OVC, SoCon, and the HBCU conferences having trouble scheduling in football and basketball, and have to resort to scheduling non-D1 teams?
Have no idea... We dont have trouble...
(06-11-2020 11:37 AM)The Cats Wrote: [ -> ]NJIT is joining the America East Conference. They will depart the ASUN immediately, and begin competition in the America East in the 2020-21 season
https://twitter.com/happeninghoops/statu...85025?s=20
Very good for them. I didn't mind them in the ASUN but it make a lot of sense for NJIT to play in a northern conference. I wish them well.
That's great for both parties...
If this is true it is good for NJIT.
I don’t think it’s good for the ASUN at all, minus travel to NJ.
1. It’s bad optics to keep losing members to other conferences.
2. It’s bad to lose a media market like NJ/NY.
3. We need more members to have more product to offer.
4. We have no one to replace them.
(06-11-2020 05:05 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ]If this is true it is good for NJIT.
I don’t think it’s good for the ASUN at all, minus travel to NJ.
1. It’s bad optics to keep losing members to other conferences.
2. It’s bad to lose a media market like NJ/NY.
3. We need more members to have more product to offer.
4. We have no one to replace them.
Your right...
But NJIT is only in the ASUN because a, nobody else invited them and b, the ASUN was in a bad spot.
Either way, they both benefited.
Do we really get visibility in New Jersey and New York? Does NJIT?
How do you know there is nobody to replace them?
I dont mind them in the conference at all, but it will help NJIT tremendously If its true. If the ASUN was to keep them, they need a partner...
VISIBILITY? The very smallest extent. I imagine NJIT scores and maybe a few sentences are reported. But it’s better than nothing.
REPLACEMENT? Yeah, I don’t really know. And of course the commish has said we’ve talked to other schools. Maybe there is someone.
I would definitely be going after Howard and NCCU.
I can’t stand weird directional combined with State names. NCCU’s gotta change the name... Shepard University or Chatauqua University maybe?
NCCU is a recent name anyway. Name it after their founder James E. Shepard or use part of the original school name, National Religious Training School and Chatauqua for the Colored Race.
(06-11-2020 05:39 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ]VISIBILITY? The very smallest extent. I imagine NJIT scores and maybe a few sentences are reported. But it’s better than nothing.
REPLACEMENT? Yeah, I don’t really know. And of course the commish has said we’ve talked to other schools. Maybe there is someone.
I would definitely be going after Howard and NCCU.
I can’t stand weird directional combined with State names. NCCU’s gotta change the name... Shepard University or Chatauqua University maybe?
NCCU is a recent name anyway. Name it after their founder James E. Shepard or use part of the original school name, National Religious Training School and Chatauqua for the Colored Race.
You dont like North Alabama? Lol...
I like Howard...
NCCU just screams Big South....
What about Monmouth? They are also in New Jersey, and football already plays in the Big South. I'm speaking on adding, not replacing.
Ha! No, I’m just being particular. I don’t mid North, South, East, West. But don’t like Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western, Middle, Central. I know, it’s petty and makes no sense. Although I do tolerate Southern Miss.
(06-11-2020 06:54 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ] Ha! No, I’m just being particular. I don’t mid North, South, East, West. But don’t like Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western, Middle, Central. I know, it’s petty and makes no sense. Although I do tolerate Southern Miss.
What would be difficult is if there was schools named,
North North Carolina
North South Carolina
Bla bla bla with all the different combinations for the Carolinas and Dakotas.
(06-11-2020 07:52 PM)lion1983 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020 06:54 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ] Ha! No, I’m just being particular. I don’t mid North, South, East, West. But don’t like Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western, Middle, Central. I know, it’s petty and makes no sense. Although I do tolerate Southern Miss.
What would be difficult is if there was schools named,
North North Carolina
North South Carolina
Bla bla bla with all the different combinations for the Carolinas and Dakotas.
ASUN should take South Carolina State and Bethune Cookman University for all sports except football. MEAC conference should let South Carolina State and Bethune Cookman University continue to play football in a football only MEAC conference. Those 2 schools make for easy travel for several current ASUN schools.
(06-11-2020 08:11 PM)DeeHee33 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020 07:52 PM)lion1983 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-11-2020 06:54 PM)army56mike Wrote: [ -> ] Ha! No, I’m just being particular. I don’t mid North, South, East, West. But don’t like Northern, Southern, Eastern, Western, Middle, Central. I know, it’s petty and makes no sense. Although I do tolerate Southern Miss.
What would be difficult is if there was schools named,
North North Carolina
North South Carolina
Bla bla bla with all the different combinations for the Carolinas and Dakotas.
ASUN should take South Carolina State and Bethune Cookman University for all sports except football. MEAC conference should let South Carolina State and Bethune Cookman University continue to play football in a football only MEAC conference. Those 2 schools make for easy travel for several current ASUN schools.
Not if they dont play football in the Big South.
Yuck. They are both small financially struggling schools.
It's been said over the years, but the ASUN never seemed interested in this idea: they could add several Florida D2 schools and become the smaller D1 conference of Florida. Toss in Bethune Cookman too if they can handle it financially. Eventually the northern schools will look to leave anyways, but the Florida group will be much more likely to stick around. The SoCon and Big South have zero Florida schools. It makes perfect sense if they can convince a couple schools to make the move up. Florida A&M would have been a good pickup for this reason too, but they might only consider HBCU conferences.
Stetson is their longest tenured member, since 1985. Jacksonville is the 2nd longest, a member since 1998. North Florida and FL Gulf Coast have been great additions. Florida teams seem to stick around, unless they get football ambitions (UCF, FAU). Luckily for the ASUN, Jacksonville went in reverse and eliminated football. I'd be looking into Bethune Cookman for my 5th school in Florida, and I'd be on the phone with Tampa trying to convince them to move up. Maybe Nova Southeastern. Honestly I'd be on the phone with all non-football D2's in Florida, which is just about all of them. Tampa and Nova Southeastern have great baseball programs, both recent national champions of D2.
This would actually give the ASUN "direction". That's something I'm not sure this conference has ever had. It's always been in survival mode. Florida seems like the only area unchallenged by other mid major conferences. Gotta think outside the box, because the Big South has clearly established themselves as a notch above the ASUN in the pecking order. Big South has tight territory, so the ASUN needs to look for teams within their new footprint that are at the same time distant from the Big South. The new footprint in my opinion begins in Florida and gradually works its way into Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi.
The ASUN commish said there would be no D2 teams added, but, you know, things change.
There are only a few D2 teams I could even imagine making a move..... West Florida and Nova Southeastern, and to a much lesser extent, Florida Tech and Tampa as you suggested.
Robert Morris to Join Horizon League in Most Sports; Football to Big South
https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2020/06/11/robert-morris-to-join-horizon-league-in-most-sports/
Does Robert Morris have a football plan?
I’d say they need to either disband it or go to the Pioneer League