(07-04-2011 07:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
Where do you live? What's wrong?
Sunnyside in Queens. It actually started being better, but for the past 11 months i could expect anywhere from 1-8 down and around .3 up. the past couple weeks have been a lot better though. i'm getting between 8-12 down
(07-04-2011 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?
He's implying that the US gov is looking after the companies that create jobs as being somehow wrong.
I'm implying that corporate interests and citizen interests aren't anywhere near perfectly correlated. Do try to keep up, sport. You could start by trying to figure out what the first sentence means.
(07-04-2011 08:12 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?
He's implying that the US gov is looking after the companies that create jobs as being somehow wrong.
I'm implying that corporate interests and citizen interests aren't anywhere near perfectly correlated. Do try to keep up, sport. You could start by trying to figure out what the first sentence means.
Good luck with that. That first sentence is going to be tough for him to understand.
(07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
Whats your zip code? That you cant get DSL, Clear4g, Satellite, or other providers...
(07-04-2011 08:46 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
Whats your zip code? That you cant get DSL, Clear4g, Satellite, or other providers...
11104. I do have other options, just not high speed ones. I can get hughes Net, but that's a joke. I can get verizon, but its slowest version. There are no legitimate high speed competitors
(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
We need 100 Megabit for the telecommuting workforce.
We need 100 Megabit to push HSI and 1080p HD Television (and in the future 4K resolution television) and Digital Phone down the pipe to each household.
We need 100 Megabit to have meaningful offsite storage and backup for somebody putting more than spreadsheets and docs in the Cloud.
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
Wow. Just wow. Granted, the US is one giant crony corporatism orgy, but in Europe it is elevated to an art form. HSI is the exception to the rule.
(07-04-2011 08:12 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I'm implying that corporate interests and citizen interests aren't anywhere near perfectly correlated.
Do you believe that government interests and citizen interests are anywhere near perfectly correlated?
The frequency with which you advocate increased government involvement as the solution to almost every problem would suggest that you do believe this, but I would like clarification on the specific point.
(07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
(07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?
Ha. So you think the U.S. is on the verge of collapse like Greece, Italy, Spain, etc.?
(07-04-2011 11:26 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
Wow. Just wow. Granted, the US is one giant crony corporatism orgy, but in Europe it is elevated to an art form. HSI is the exception to the rule.
Hence my "bizarre" comment above.
(07-05-2011 08:38 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.
BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
??? I'm talking about internet. I have DirecTV for my television needs and Time Warner for internet.
(07-05-2011 09:59 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 08:38 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
??? I'm talking about internet. I have DirecTV for my television needs and Time Warner for internet.
Okay, there's still satellite, AT&T U-Verse, Verizon, etc.
You may have multiple high speed options, but they are still crap options compared to Europe. Having 10 ****** options isn't something to be happy about.
(07-04-2011 08:10 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote: [ -> ]It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
Where do you live? What's wrong?
Sunnyside in Queens. It actually started being better, but for the past 11 months i could expect anywhere from 1-8 down and around .3 up. the past couple weeks have been a lot better though. i'm getting between 8-12 down
Queens, I'd kill for one of your pizzas, I'm originally from Fort Lee, NJ, Ever go to Hiram's or Callahan's? Anyway, were your speeds always slow or just at night? Might have bandwidth utilization issues due to too many users. From what you said it looks like they may have gotten that resolved. What speed are you paying for?
(07-05-2011 10:34 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 09:59 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 08:38 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
??? I'm talking about internet. I have DirecTV for my television needs and Time Warner for internet.
Okay, there's still satellite, AT&T U-Verse, Verizon, etc.
OMG, dude just read what I wrote. I do have access to Verizon, but only their slowest option, i.e. not high speed. U-verse isn't available in my zip code. satellite internet is like freakin dial up. Believe me, the only high speed option is Time Warner. There's no legitimate alternative
(07-05-2011 01:36 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 08:10 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:22 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
Where do you live? What's wrong?
Sunnyside in Queens. It actually started being better, but for the past 11 months i could expect anywhere from 1-8 down and around .3 up. the past couple weeks have been a lot better though. i'm getting between 8-12 down
Queens, I'd kill for one of your pizzas, I'm originally from Fort Lee, NJ, Ever go to Hiram's or Callahan's? Anyway, were your speeds always slow or just at night? Might have bandwidth utilization issues due to too many users. From what you said it looks like they may have gotten that resolved. What speed are you paying for?
i don't eat pizza, so no i haven't been there.
it's hard to say how speeds were during the day, cuz I was at work. Definitely slowed down a lot at night though. But yeah, it definitely seems to be a lot better lately. Very odd
I'm paying for max 10 down and around .5 up. $50/month. I did a speed test last night and found it to be 12 down, which was amazing considering I went nearly a full year never seeing speeds like that
(07-05-2011 02:13 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 10:34 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 09:59 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 08:38 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ]I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
??? I'm talking about internet. I have DirecTV for my television needs and Time Warner for internet.
Okay, there's still satellite, AT&T U-Verse, Verizon, etc.
OMG, dude just read what I wrote. I do have access to Verizon, but only their slowest option, i.e. not high speed. U-verse isn't available in my zip code. satellite internet is like freakin dial up. Believe me, the only high speed option is Time Warner. There's no legitimate alternative
Just because you don't like the choices doesn't make it a monopoly.
(07-05-2011 02:30 PM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 02:13 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 10:34 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 09:59 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote: [ -> ] (07-05-2011 08:38 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote: [ -> ]That means you have one cable option. There's always satellite, U-verse (if it's available there), Hulu, etc.
??? I'm talking about internet. I have DirecTV for my television needs and Time Warner for internet.
Okay, there's still satellite, AT&T U-Verse, Verizon, etc.
OMG, dude just read what I wrote. I do have access to Verizon, but only their slowest option, i.e. not high speed. U-verse isn't available in my zip code. satellite internet is like freakin dial up. Believe me, the only high speed option is Time Warner. There's no legitimate alternative
Just because you don't like the choices doesn't make it a monopoly.
they're not choices. there's one high speed option. Neither RCN nor comcast are allowed to be in that area. that's not competition
Note that the mechanics by which one is provided only a single option in a service area will almost certainly involve governmental regulation.
(07-05-2011 03:17 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Note that the mechanics by which one is provided only a single option in a service area will almost certainly involve governmental regulation.
I have no doubt that it's due to some ridiculous NYC regulation