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Typically local governments have carved out exclusive service areas in exchange for franchise fees. In effect a sales tax on your service. So you pay, to get worse service.

(07-05-2011 04:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Typically local governments have carved out exclusive service areas in exchange for franchise fees. In effect a sales tax on your service. So you pay, to get worse service.

what i expected

(07-05-2011 04:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Typically local governments have carved out exclusive service areas in exchange for franchise fees. In effect a sales tax on your service. So you pay, to get worse service.

Individual city franchises are a thing of the past - the states now regulate CATV as well as the FCC.

(07-05-2011 08:01 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-05-2011 04:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Typically local governments have carved out exclusive service areas in exchange for franchise fees. In effect a sales tax on your service. So you pay, to get worse service.

Individual city franchises are a thing of the past - the states now regulate CATV as well as the FCC.

Thanks for the update. I haven't worked in the area in 20 years or so, and have not stayed current.

(07-05-2011 08:01 PM)smn1256 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-05-2011 04:28 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]Typically local governments have carved out exclusive service areas in exchange for franchise fees. In effect a sales tax on your service. So you pay, to get worse service.

Individual city franchises are a thing of the past - the states now regulate CATV as well as the FCC.

Not true - at least not in Alabama, Georgia, or Florida.

Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

(07-07-2011 08:33 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

This is one of those things that few people here understand, but something that we should definitely take a look at. There are any number of ills in our current system that this would tend to help rectify. And do so much more effectively and efficiently than adversarial government regulation.

(07-07-2011 11:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 08:33 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

This is one of those things that few people here understand, but something that we should definitely take a look at. There are any number of ills in our current system that this would tend to help rectify. And do so much more effectively and efficiently than adversarial government regulation.

We agree on the principle, but I doubt we would agree on the details.

(07-07-2011 11:54 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 11:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 08:33 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

This is one of those things that few people here understand, but something that we should definitely take a look at. There are any number of ills in our current system that this would tend to help rectify. And do so much more effectively and efficiently than adversarial government regulation.

We agree on the principle, but I doubt we would agree on the details.

I doubt we'd actually disagree that much on the details. As a refugee from corporate America, I'm very much of the belief that it needs significant reform.

We probably have much more room for agreement on many issues than you'd be willing to admit. Of course, then you'd have to admit either that I'm not the right wing nut you want to label, or perhaps even worse, that you are not the left wing nut that you portray on here.

But you appear to be more interested in getting your jollies by being a jerk than in engaging in reasonable discussion. That's your problem, not mine.

(07-07-2011 08:33 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

So who pays for the upgrades for faster speeds; government or corporations and why? You do know that your phone bill has fees to subsidize rural phone lines so people in the sticks can have phone service. Your cable bill has fees so the old and poor can get basic service at a cheaper rate. Same with your power and probably water bills. Who subsidizes the higher speeds for people who will probably never need it? Why can't the free market dictate what services are offered? And right now there is a very, very small market for 100meg speed, so why should corps pay for a huge upgrade when the payoff will be small.

(07-07-2011 11:58 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 11:54 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 11:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-07-2011 08:33 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: [ -> ]Of course that is ignoring the fact that in many European countries, such as Germany, corporate interests are much more aligned with social interests through forced BoD representation. You righties really need to get out more often.

This is one of those things that few people here understand, but something that we should definitely take a look at. There are any number of ills in our current system that this would tend to help rectify. And do so much more effectively and efficiently than adversarial government regulation.

We agree on the principle, but I doubt we would agree on the details.

I doubt we'd actually disagree that much on the details. As a refugee from corporate America, I'm very much of the belief that it needs significant reform.

We probably have much more room for agreement on many issues than you'd be willing to admit. Of course, then you'd have to admit either that I'm not the right wing nut you want to label, or perhaps even worse, that you are not the left wing nut that you portray on here.

But you appear to be more interested in getting your jollies by being a jerk than in engaging in reasonable discussion. That's your problem, not mine.

+1 on all of that.