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Why is European Internet Faster and Cheaper?
They say it's the government's fault. Warning: heavy lib in the comment section

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Good video. I'm a fan of the UK unbundling approach. I really very seriously wonder if fiber optic networks should be handled like roads or an electric utility. It's THAT important.
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(07-04-2011 01:38 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Good video. I'm a fan of the UK unbundling approach. I really very seriously wonder if fiber optic networks should be handled like roads or an electric utility. It's THAT important.

Yes, they are the railroads and interstates of the 21st century.
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My question is, could we legally have a company open their lines?
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(07-04-2011 10:57 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  My question is, could we legally have a company open their lines?
Wouldn't that require the government sticking its nose into private business? What are you, a socialist fascist commie? No. We can NOT allow that to happen!
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Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
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(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.
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(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.

personally you dont really need it. I guess you dont really need any of it personally, but faster speeds definitely help businesses large and small.
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(07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.

Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...
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(07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.

Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...

More than you probably know.
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I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.
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(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

And how's Europe doing these days?
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(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

Bizarre comment, even considering the source.
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(07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?
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(07-04-2011 05:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

Bizarre comment, even considering the source.
Why is it bizarre?
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(07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?

He's implying that the US gov is looking after the companies that create jobs as being somehow wrong.
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(07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.

Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...

I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.
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(07-04-2011 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?

He's implying that the US gov is looking after the companies that create jobs as being somehow wrong.

Well, obviously terms such as "looking after" and "look out for" are too general and are the basis of 90% of political message board debates.

Your privacy? Your wallet? Your business? Your education? Your bedroom? Your body? Your vices? Etc. Etc. Etc. And everyone will have a different opinion as to the extent government should "look after" its constituents within each of these subjects.
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(07-04-2011 07:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 04:36 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:42 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 12:12 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Last week we had a Croation soldier visiting Fort Bliss who was bitching that we only provided him with 15mbs rather than the 100 he was used to in his homeland. No one is putting a gun to his head and forcing him to stay here.

BTW, why does anyone really need 100 megabits per second? And if anyone wants to know why cable tv is so expensive just ask me and I'll tell ya.
It is because we have to pay your salary. THat and there is a virtual monopoly.

Virtual monopoly is *CRAP*... I have at least three high speed options and that is about average...

I have 1. Time warner and it's crap.

Where do you live? What's wrong?
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(07-04-2011 06:59 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 06:19 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:30 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(07-04-2011 05:17 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  I agree about the government statement in the story. The problem is that US governments largely look out for the interests of corporations and european governments largely look out for the interests of citizens.

And how's Europe doing these days?
About the same as us except for Germany. What is your point?

He's implying that the US gov is looking after the companies that create jobs as being somehow wrong.
Not exactly, try again.
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