(07-03-2023 06:46 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 05:20 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 04:13 PM)former guest Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I would much rather be in the Big 12 with their current teams--than in a depleted ACC with their left behinds.

Opinions vary - you're welcome to yours.

Yes indeed -and thank you -and as fellow TIGER fans, it is OKAY to have a difference of opinion .

You have no idea how hard it was to not type “as dumb as it may be” on the end of my statement.

As long as you are thinking it, it counts.

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 08:34 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 05:17 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 05:06 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  ....and more importantly what it ISN'T.

Hey man, there are probably 5,000 fans that live and die with Prairie View football. Good for them if they are having a good time. Everybody gets to decide for themselves what they do and don't want to support.

I'm just going to sit back and wait and see what happens. I did my part for 30-40 years. Someone else can carry the torch - I will gladly go along for the ride if times ever change for Tiger athletics.

I’m still doing my part. But they are about to price me out. On a fixed income and don’t feel like paying a premium price to watch Rice, North Texas and Charlotte

You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

This isn't necessarily true. It isn't possible to be sure without actually buying tickets, but if you go to the school websites, there are a lot of affordable tickets. For premium seating, the prices are very high, for good seats to end zone seats, most schools are reasonable, including donation.

Iowa State $275 - $900
WVU $365 - $800
Baylor $475 - $600
Kansas $300 - $450
Kansas State $525 - $625
UCF $450 - $600 (single seats)
Houston $450 - $750
Cincinnati $400 - $500 + unspecified donation
Texas Tech $350 - $900
Oklahoma State $325 - $925

Memphis $274 - $475

Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

(07-03-2023 05:15 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 03:36 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  I would much rather be in the Big 12 with their current teams--than in a depleted ACC with their left behinds.

We disagree there. My opinion might change with time. We'll see. I don't think the middle of the country is much better off than the west coast. They're aren't enough people to generate the revenue. Things do change though.

WOW---how refreshing for someone to disagree with another poster without calling them stupid/dumb/weird etc etc--thank you

If we can get in the ACC without them losing their better teams --then yes I would be 100% in agreement . However, If they lose Clemson/North Carolina/Florida State/North Carolina State or maybe more---then it would basically be the equivalent of the AAC prior to losing UCF/Houston/Cincinnati or only slightly better---and we were trying to get of that conference but were left behind.

I just think the Big 12 as it exists now, has much better teams than a torn apart ACC would be .

An ACC w/o the top four teams would strongly resemble the old Metro Conference. Some different teams, but similar makeup.

(07-03-2023 12:15 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(07-02-2023 08:55 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-02-2023 12:36 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 05:06 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 04:58 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  That’s fine as long as you realize what it is

....and more importantly what it ISN'T.

Hey man, there are probably 5,000 fans that live and die with Prairie View football. Good for them if they are having a good time. Everybody gets to decide for themselves what they do and don't want to support.

I'm just going to sit back and wait and see what happens. I did my part for 30-40 years. Someone else can carry the torch - I will gladly go along for the ride if times ever change for Tiger athletics.

I really don't get this POV.

Is it depressing right now in this current landscape? Yes for sure.

However, UofM athletics has never been in a better position than it is now. Rudd and company, sustained football success, much better facilities and finances, increased emphasis on non-revenue programs.

We have done our part and are showing that we will continue to do our part. The failure would be if we were still practicing football on HS fields and letting LBMS crumble.

So what has changed for you?

The years piled up. I was there all through the late 70's, the 80's, the 90's, and getting left behind in CUSA the first time in the 00s. It wears on you. We finally turn the corner and it's not enough. We finally achieved a success level that was on par with the glory days of the 60's and then the rules change and the money gap is worse than ever, we get left behind again and we have the Pastner version of a football coach being given a 4th year.

As I said, I think it's primarily the cumulative effect of decades of disappointment.....

Terminal Battered Fan Syndrome?

That pretty much sums it up. I have had battered fan syndrome since the 2008 National Championship game. Ever since then I just tell my self it is not life or death it is just sports.

I think the true battered fan syndrome started when Kentucky looked at our bball program and said they wanted to take it - coaches, recruits and all. Similar (but different) feeling with Fuente and Norvell. Now its specific players like Prieskhorn and our women's bball coach and our baseball coach. Its not a question of if we can be successful, its a question of what gets taken away from us if we are successful.

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 08:34 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 05:17 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  I’m still doing my part. But they are about to price me out. On a fixed income and don’t feel like paying a premium price to watch Rice, North Texas and Charlotte

You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

This isn't necessarily true. It isn't possible to be sure without actually buying tickets, but if you go to the school websites, there are a lot of affordable tickets. For premium seating, the prices are very high, for good seats to end zone seats, most schools are reasonable, including donation.

Iowa State $275 - $900
WVU $365 - $800
Baylor $475 - $600
Kansas $300 - $450
Kansas State $525 - $625
UCF $450 - $600 (single seats)
Houston $450 - $750
Cincinnati $400 - $500 + unspecified donation
Texas Tech $350 - $900
Oklahoma State $325 - $925

Memphis $274 - $475

Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

(07-03-2023 05:36 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  We don't always get what we want. You can deal or cry forever.

Or walk away. Everybody has a limit.

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 08:34 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

This isn't necessarily true. It isn't possible to be sure without actually buying tickets, but if you go to the school websites, there are a lot of affordable tickets. For premium seating, the prices are very high, for good seats to end zone seats, most schools are reasonable, including donation.

Iowa State $275 - $900
WVU $365 - $800
Baylor $475 - $600
Kansas $300 - $450
Kansas State $525 - $625
UCF $450 - $600 (single seats)
Houston $450 - $750
Cincinnati $400 - $500 + unspecified donation
Texas Tech $350 - $900
Oklahoma State $325 - $925

Memphis $274 - $475

Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

Doesn't that speak specifically to what is left in the Big 12? More than half of the teams in the ACC, SEC, Big10, and even Pac12 would be major draws at the Liberty Bowl

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-01-2023 08:34 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

This isn't necessarily true. It isn't possible to be sure without actually buying tickets, but if you go to the school websites, there are a lot of affordable tickets. For premium seating, the prices are very high, for good seats to end zone seats, most schools are reasonable, including donation.

Iowa State $275 - $900
WVU $365 - $800
Baylor $475 - $600
Kansas $300 - $450
Kansas State $525 - $625
UCF $450 - $600 (single seats)
Houston $450 - $750
Cincinnati $400 - $500 + unspecified donation
Texas Tech $350 - $900
Oklahoma State $325 - $925

Memphis $274 - $475

Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.

Quote:I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

(07-03-2023 10:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 02:20 PM)Stammers Wrote:  This isn't necessarily true. It isn't possible to be sure without actually buying tickets, but if you go to the school websites, there are a lot of affordable tickets. For premium seating, the prices are very high, for good seats to end zone seats, most schools are reasonable, including donation.

Iowa State $275 - $900
WVU $365 - $800
Baylor $475 - $600
Kansas $300 - $450
Kansas State $525 - $625
UCF $450 - $600 (single seats)
Houston $450 - $750
Cincinnati $400 - $500 + unspecified donation
Texas Tech $350 - $900
Oklahoma State $325 - $925

Memphis $274 - $475

Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.

Quote:I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

Lol. Ok

(07-04-2023 08:07 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 10:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 06:15 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Looks to me like double from your calculations. If we ever did get in, I don’t see any team a big name school that would make the casual tiger fan that would want to go to a game or buy season tickets. Just my opinion.

A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.

Quote:I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

Lol. Ok

IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Everything would be way better for Memphis if it was a member of the B12. Hell, UCF and Cincy got huge boosts to recruiting and donations for the past 2 years just on the invitations.

Personally, I think that the clock has struck midnight on Memphis chance to get into a big boy conference. Without the prestige and resources that being a member in one of 'those' conferences brings, It's always going to be a mostly futile struggle against overwhelming odds with the occasional bright spot - especially for the non-revenue sports.

NIL just made everything worse by essentially making G5's 'tryout schools' for P5s. Sure, players will go both ways but usually a player coming down from a P5 to a G5 is because they couldn't cut it at the higher level.

Memphis basketball can be ok but building a resume in the AAC will be tough. Cannot afford slow starts to the season.

(07-04-2023 08:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:07 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 10:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 07:16 PM)Stammers Wrote:  A visit to Dollar Tree for a calculator will fix that.

Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.

Quote:I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

Lol. Ok

IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Not doubting the big 12 teams would be more interesting but my original post was that the season tickets would be doubled and our fans struggle to go to games now unless Kroger helps out.plus the prices to the renovations to the stadium..All speculations especially since we are not in that conference.
Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up not what team travels well

(07-04-2023 10:52 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:07 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 10:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 08:01 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Try it as you look back at the figures. Kansas is only one compares to ours.
Iowa st. Same for cheap seats but doubles for better.
Wvu higher cheap and almost double for better.
Baylor- doubled
Kansas st. Doubled
Ucf. Doubled
Houston. Doubled
Cincy doubled
Tex tech. Higher cheap. Doubled for better seats
Okla st. Higher and doubled.

So my point was tiger fans gripe about prices now. They will go up IF we go to a P5. I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.

Quote:I don’t see any team on here that would move the needle for fans to show up

TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

Lol. Ok

IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Not doubting the big 12 teams would be more interesting but my original post was that the season tickets would be doubled and our fans struggle to go to games now unless Kroger helps out.plus the prices to the renovations to the stadium..All speculations especially since we are not in that conference.
Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up not what team travels well

Most don't come close to being double. I am a positive person so I wouldn't automatically assume that our prices would match the most expensive tickets in the Big 12. I would go the other way and say that they would be more in line with the lower half; which are obviously not double.

The best seats at WVU are $795 including donation. Kansas is at $450 for the best seats with no mention of a donation. Even Oklahoma State has season tickets at $215 and a lot of good tickets in the $500-600 range. Kansas State's tickets at the 40 yard line are $750 including donation.

Our most expensive available tickets are in sections 102 and 106, and they are at $600 including donation. We don't show anything available between the 25 yard lines on either side, but those are for sure even more expensive. You are claiming that those tickets would cost between $1,200 - $1,800; which is a fantasy.

You said this...

Quote:You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

Quote:Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up

And this...

Quote:Cincy doubled

Cincinnati

Quote:A majority of Nippert Stadium seats will see a 7% to 20% increase in season ticket prices based on location, coming in line with standard price levels across the Big 12.

Cincy Raises Prices 7-20%

Best ticket available is $450 + $200 donation
Cincy Season Ticket Prices

Iowa State's tickets are very expensive. I'm guessing that what happened is that you were so excited to prove your most negative scenario, that you looked at them and ignored every other fact.

Getting back to Cincinnati. Is a 7-20% increase per season ticket and $650 including donation, an example of their tickets doubling, or is this just a make believe number you decided on? Do you really believe our ticket prices will be the second most expensive in the Big 12 and come in at $1,200 - $1,800?

(07-04-2023 01:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 10:52 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:07 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-03-2023 10:00 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If it makes you feel better to claim that $300 - $400 is 2X or 3X $275, or $600 is 2X or 3X $475, knock yourself out. If you don't think a ranked Baylor, TCU or Oklahoma State in addition to UCF and Houston would move the needle, go crazy.

This isn't about ticket prices or moving the needle. It is about you taking the most miserable, negative approach possible. Big success. $275 X 2 = $400. Fantastic.


TCU played in the for the national championship last year. They wouldn't move the needle? Congrats, you win the internet today.

Lol. Ok

IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Not doubting the big 12 teams would be more interesting but my original post was that the season tickets would be doubled and our fans struggle to go to games now unless Kroger helps out.plus the prices to the renovations to the stadium..All speculations especially since we are not in that conference.
Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up not what team travels well

Most don't come close to being double. I am a positive person so I wouldn't automatically assume that our prices would match the most expensive tickets in the Big 12. I would go the other way and say that they would be more in line with the lower half; which are obviously not double.

The best seats at WVU are $795 including donation. Kansas is at $450 for the best seats with no mention of a donation. Even Oklahoma State has season tickets at $215 and a lot of good tickets in the $500-600 range. Kansas State's tickets at the 40 yard line are $750 including donation.

Our most expensive available tickets are in sections 102 and 106, and they are at $600 including donation. We don't show anything available between the 25 yard lines on either side, but those are for sure even more expensive. You are claiming that those tickets would cost between $1,200 - $1,800; which is a fantasy.

You said this...

Quote:You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

Quote:Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up

And this...

Quote:Cincy doubled

Cincinnati

Quote:A majority of Nippert Stadium seats will see a 7% to 20% increase in season ticket prices based on location, coming in line with standard price levels across the Big 12.

Cincy Raises Prices 7-20%

Best ticket available is $450 + $200 donation
Cincy Season Ticket Prices

Iowa State's tickets are very expensive. I'm guessing that what happened is that you were so excited to prove your most negative scenario, that you looked at them and ignored every other fact.

Getting back to Cincinnati. Is a 7-20% increase per season ticket and $650 including donation, an example of their tickets doubling, or is this just a make believe number you decided on? Do you really believe our ticket prices will be the second most expensive in the Big 12 and come in at $1,200 - $1,800?

I guess you didn’t see the survey once they renovate the home side.

(07-04-2023 03:53 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 01:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 10:52 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:07 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  Lol. Ok

IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Not doubting the big 12 teams would be more interesting but my original post was that the season tickets would be doubled and our fans struggle to go to games now unless Kroger helps out.plus the prices to the renovations to the stadium..All speculations especially since we are not in that conference.
Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up not what team travels well

Most don't come close to being double. I am a positive person so I wouldn't automatically assume that our prices would match the most expensive tickets in the Big 12. I would go the other way and say that they would be more in line with the lower half; which are obviously not double.

The best seats at WVU are $795 including donation. Kansas is at $450 for the best seats with no mention of a donation. Even Oklahoma State has season tickets at $215 and a lot of good tickets in the $500-600 range. Kansas State's tickets at the 40 yard line are $750 including donation.

Our most expensive available tickets are in sections 102 and 106, and they are at $600 including donation. We don't show anything available between the 25 yard lines on either side, but those are for sure even more expensive. You are claiming that those tickets would cost between $1,200 - $1,800; which is a fantasy.

You said this...

Quote:You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

Quote:Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up

And this...

Quote:Cincy doubled

Cincinnati

Quote:A majority of Nippert Stadium seats will see a 7% to 20% increase in season ticket prices based on location, coming in line with standard price levels across the Big 12.

Cincy Raises Prices 7-20%

Best ticket available is $450 + $200 donation
Cincy Season Ticket Prices

Iowa State's tickets are very expensive. I'm guessing that what happened is that you were so excited to prove your most negative scenario, that you looked at them and ignored every other fact.

Getting back to Cincinnati. Is a 7-20% increase per season ticket and $650 including donation, an example of their tickets doubling, or is this just a make believe number you decided on? Do you really believe our ticket prices will be the second most expensive in the Big 12 and come in at $1,200 - $1,800?

I guess you didn’t see the survey once they renovate the home side.

Of course I did. That was mostly about premium seating. How much do our suites cost now? I'm sure they are very expensive.

(07-04-2023 06:49 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 03:53 PM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 01:13 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 10:52 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023 08:30 AM)Stammers Wrote:  IF TCU was 10-0 and 3rd in the country, they wouldn't move the needle? In 2021 Baylor finished at #5 and Oklahoma State at #7. UCF and Cincinnati will always draw well.

Kansas is a weakling, but even when Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia have bad years, they are far more interesting to play than Tulsa, North Texas, Charlotte or Rice. On top of that, all of those schools travel well.

Not doubting the big 12 teams would be more interesting but my original post was that the season tickets would be doubled and our fans struggle to go to games now unless Kroger helps out.plus the prices to the renovations to the stadium..All speculations especially since we are not in that conference.
Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up not what team travels well

Most don't come close to being double. I am a positive person so I wouldn't automatically assume that our prices would match the most expensive tickets in the Big 12. I would go the other way and say that they would be more in line with the lower half; which are obviously not double.

The best seats at WVU are $795 including donation. Kansas is at $450 for the best seats with no mention of a donation. Even Oklahoma State has season tickets at $215 and a lot of good tickets in the $500-600 range. Kansas State's tickets at the 40 yard line are $750 including donation.

Our most expensive available tickets are in sections 102 and 106, and they are at $600 including donation. We don't show anything available between the 25 yard lines on either side, but those are for sure even more expensive. You are claiming that those tickets would cost between $1,200 - $1,800; which is a fantasy.

You said this...

Quote:You will definitely be out if we ever make it to a P5 conference. The tickets will double or triple in cost

Quote:Once again I posted about the season ticket price going up

And this...

Quote:Cincy doubled

Cincinnati

Quote:A majority of Nippert Stadium seats will see a 7% to 20% increase in season ticket prices based on location, coming in line with standard price levels across the Big 12.

Cincy Raises Prices 7-20%

Best ticket available is $450 + $200 donation
Cincy Season Ticket Prices

Iowa State's tickets are very expensive. I'm guessing that what happened is that you were so excited to prove your most negative scenario, that you looked at them and ignored every other fact.

Getting back to Cincinnati. Is a 7-20% increase per season ticket and $650 including donation, an example of their tickets doubling, or is this just a make believe number you decided on? Do you really believe our ticket prices will be the second most expensive in the Big 12 and come in at $1,200 - $1,800?

I guess you didn’t see the survey once they renovate the home side.

Of course I did. That was mostly about premium seating. How much do our suites cost now? I'm sure they are very expensive.

All irrelevant conversations bc we are in the AAC. We can come back IF we get in to play with the big boys