(08-05-2019 10:10 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 10:03 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

Trump couldn't even get the name of the city right...

What a ******* *******.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/confusi...n-michigan


Biden couldn't even get the name of the cities right...

What a ******* ****.



Good to know what you are focused on.

Toledo.. Dayton.. They both look like bad version of Cleveland.

(08-04-2019 08:37 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  I'd wonder what the left would say to something like a mandatory, zero tolerance, 50 year sentence with no parole or time off for good behavior for the possession of a firearm by a felon, regardless of their purpose.... same for possessing one where a death occurs, even if unrelated to the crime... say you rob a bank with a gun... even an unloaded one... cops show up and while shooting at you, kill a bystander. Something truly draconian, but specifically targeted at criminals using guns.

The left has correctly argued that such things are constitutionally questionable, but at least these are targeting criminals... as opposed to the current solutions that are similarly questionable, but target non-criminals.

Still waiting for anyone to talk about this.

(08-05-2019 12:16 AM)IAH Wrote:  I know it would affect law abiding citizens more... but so does say airport security. I mean , how mean law abiding citizens go through security before we catch a nut case.

Troubling comparison. Airport security itself generally takes moments. The lines of course take a long time, but that is a story of supply/demand/economics and not of regulation. We aren't running background checks on people before the fly.... we're just funneling thousands of people through a small number of gates.

Let's say we passed a law requiring invasive background checks and waiting periods etc etc etc
How many recent mass shooters do you think would have been caught by such a thing? The answer may not be zero, but it's close. It's not merely about the negative of impacting a lot of innocents, it's about ultimately impacting criminals.

(08-05-2019 09:22 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 08:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 01:28 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  This is what happens when you tell people to go to radical off brand websites to get fake news. Thanks trump. Looks like your goofy civil war has started early. Maybe rep Omar was right.

FFS listen to yourself . Was Obama blamed for Sandy Hook? No. Likewise, it makes no sense to blame Trump for El Paso, etc. This is common sense. Both instances the perpetrator was a dick and obviously unhinged. No logical reason to blame either POTUS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...86cf225144

Quote:Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump blasted the Obama administration’s management of domestic terrorism threats Monday, blaming the president for Sunday's mass shooting in Orlando and tying those policies to his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

The celebrity real estate mogul, who has mobilized anxieties over domestic terrorism to great effect this election, said Monday during a speech here that "political correctness" and lax immigration laws have stifled efforts to combat radical jihadism. Those anxieties have been at the core of some of Trump’s most controversial proposals, including his call to temporarily ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

“Truly, our president doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s failed us, and he’s failed us badly. And under his leadership, this situation will not get any better, it will only get worse, and I’ve been saying that for a long time,” Trump said during a speech at Saint Anselm College, which was billed as a major foreign-policy address.

Bet you a hundy you don’t see any article approaching that if any of these democrats get elected. There won’t be any blame on the progressive when it happens. More likely they will go backwards and blame Trump. How convenient it will be. People like you will lap it up.....

(08-05-2019 09:22 AM)cb4029 Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 08:44 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 01:28 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  This is what happens when you tell people to go to radical off brand websites to get fake news. Thanks trump. Looks like your goofy civil war has started early. Maybe rep Omar was right.

FFS listen to yourself . Was Obama blamed for Sandy Hook? No. Likewise, it makes no sense to blame Trump for El Paso, etc. This is common sense. Both instances the perpetrator was a dick and obviously unhinged. No logical reason to blame either POTUS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...86cf225144

Quote:Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump blasted the Obama administration’s management of domestic terrorism threats Monday, blaming the president for Sunday's mass shooting in Orlando and tying those policies to his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton.

The celebrity real estate mogul, who has mobilized anxieties over domestic terrorism to great effect this election, said Monday during a speech here that "political correctness" and lax immigration laws have stifled efforts to combat radical jihadism. Those anxieties have been at the core of some of Trump’s most controversial proposals, including his call to temporarily ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

“Truly, our president doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s failed us, and he’s failed us badly. And under his leadership, this situation will not get any better, it will only get worse, and I’ve been saying that for a long time,” Trump said during a speech at Saint Anselm College, which was billed as a major foreign-policy address.

Still trying to figure out what your point is. I stated that neither are to blame. I guess it's just more TDS. Carry on....

(08-05-2019 10:41 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 10:11 AM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 12:24 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-05-2019 12:11 AM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 11:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So are you suggesting we adopt pre-crime regulations? Shall we employ psychics to predict the future before we allow people to exercise their Constitutional right to bear arms?

Are there any other rights we should restrict this way?

Give me a break, so we couldn’t add any small rule and we would be restricting your rights?

We have rules for all kinds of ****, last I check we make people get drivers licenses and follow transit laws.

Exactly which Constitutional amendment covers driving an automobile?

Well, the 5th amendment gives us the right to move freely and travel... doesn’t mean I can do so at 100 miles per hour in my personal tank.

I occasionally drove at 100 mph in my Mother's '74 Lincoln. That thing was a tank. And you would have thought you were doing 60.

And nobody is suggesting taking the car from you......
A similar gun law would be that it is illegal to fire a weapon within city limits. This argument is asinine.....

Reports say Dayton shooter fired 40 rounds from his “drum” magazine. Police fired over 70. Makes me think his stupid magazine jammed. None of those things work properly. Probably a good thing he used it instead of properly constructed 30 round magazines.
May he be tormented in hell for eternity....

(08-05-2019 12:20 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Quote:The identity of the suspect in the Oregon District shooting has been released.

The shooting suspect has been identified as Connor Betts, 24, of Bellbrook, government sources confirmed.

Chris Baker, who just resigned this summer after 14 years as Bellbrook High School principal, was asked about Betts’ time as a Bellbrook student.

Asked about reports that, while a Bellbrook student, Betts was suspended for causing a lockdown by writing a “hit-list” on a bathroom wall, Baker said, “I would not dispute that information, but I don’t want to get involved any more than just making that comment.”

A woman who went to high school with Betts recalled the hit-list.

“I know he made the list,” she said. “I’m not sure who the names were on there...He had a plan to shoot up the school.”

When she first heard about the shooting, she said Betts’ name came to her mind.

“I guessed it might’ve been him just from that list,” she said.

She added that Betts was bullied at the high school and that he seemed “pretty normal” after he “got some help from making list.”

Demoy Howell was a year behind Connor Betts at Bellbrook High School, where they were in Junior ROTC together.

“He was always a little bit of an oddball,” said Howell, who graduated in 2014. “He had a dark sense of humor - jokes about people dying. He would wear all black. I remember sensing a dark energy around him.”

He never had a problem with Betts, but remembers friends saying he made them feel threatened or uncomfortable. The rigor of the military program seemed to have a calming influence, as Betts didn’t seem to have many friends, he added.

“Even though we all knew he was kind of weird, I felt like the colonels kind of kept him together,” Howell said. “There was a lockdown one year and it was because he wrote something in the bathroom. Then he kind of fell off the face of the earth. I don’t remember him walking (at graduation).”

Later, Howell said, the two worked together at a fast-food restaurant.

“Generally there was no issue,” he said. “He kind of kept it together.”

Betts also worked at a gas station where Howell would sometimes stop in to grab a drink.

“He was normal there, too,” he said. “He kept on a professional face.”

He and his friends frequent the Oregon District where, authorities say, Betts opened fire overnight and left nine dead. Police officers in the area fatally shot Betts within a minute. After getting off work on Saturday night, Howell had decided against heading to Oregon. Hours later, he heard the news.

“I think this is less of a hate crime and more of an ‘I hate everybody’ crime,” Howell said. “I honestly feel more comfortable now knowing that he’s gone.”

Elizabeth Betz, a longtime Bellbrook school board member, said she only had passing memory of Betts, from an elementary school event, and from graduation, simply because their last names are pronounced the same. She said she was unaware of any incidents with Betts while he was in Bellbrook schools.

Link

I was long before his time but it still hits close to home when it’s a school we played in football.