(01-11-2018 11:19 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:14 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 10:42 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 10:35 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 10:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I get the flu shot every year. If anyone has gotten the flu immediately after getting the flu shot then they already had the flu before they got the shot.

maybe, maybe not.....not all genes are equal.....

Well, add the fact that the "virus" in the flu shot is already dead, one is not going to get the flu virus from the shot anyway. With that said, I can see why some folks seem to think they can get the virus from the shot. On one hand they more than likely already had the flu prior to the shot and second, the flu vaccine takes approximately two weeks to be effective. So, one can also get the flu for approximately two weeks after receiving the shot. As for me, I primarily get the vaccine as it lessens the chance of me passing the flu to my kids, etc.

I'm not disagreeing with your decision (which easily makes sense in your case since you could easily also contract/transmit the flu from/to your kids)....

I've simply chosen the path of staying away from people as much as possible as a defense mechanism during major outbreaks.....

hell, just walking into a clinic increases the risk of contraction during an outbreak.....

I'm of the opinion that each individual should make the decision based on their situation.....

if I implied otherwise, I can only say that was not my intent, and should've been more specific.....

The bold will be harder and harder to do if more and more people refuse to vaccinate.

completely agree....I simply happen to be lucky enough to do that during the flu season these days.....

that's the freedom I enjoy being self employed....

(01-11-2018 10:50 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I don’t understand the whole doubting if vaccinations either. That mindset could be very dangerous to a society.

Some people are convinced on little more evidence that DJT conspired with the Russians to steal the election. That is also dangerous to a society.

Some people are convinced HFCS is the 2nd greatest threat to the world after global warming.

Some people think every bit of extreme weather is due to global warning, including scientists, as if there had never been extreme weather before.

Some people are scared to death of GMOs.

Some people pay twice as much for organic food partly in the mistaken belief it is healthier (along with some legitimate environmental concerns about pesticides).

Lots of people believe ridiculous things.

I see what you are doing here...... you are putting ridiculous things in with stuff that actually happened. Interesting.........

(01-11-2018 11:24 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:15 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:13 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:07 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  The reason I dont get the flu shot is become I dont think is that effective. Especially knowing that they are pretty much guessing on the strand. Given the fact that only 30% of the flu shots were effective, it just confirmed my stand a little bit more. I rather take my chances with the flu (which this is probably the second time I have gotten it all of my life) than with something thats not really effective.

I can see that point of view. However, I'll take 30% effective versus 0% any day. Regardless, I keep a bottle of Tamiflu ready just in case.

Tamiflu was hard to come by when I finally went to the doctor and got it prescribed.

Yeah, it's expensive too even with insurance. I've never used the entire bottle either which is why I keep it around for a little while afterwards. I do remember there being a shortage a couple of years ago. I think there is actually a shortage now in California given 20+ people have already died from the flu.

You got a bottle? I ended up getting pills

(01-11-2018 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:24 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:15 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:13 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(01-11-2018 11:07 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  The reason I dont get the flu shot is become I dont think is that effective. Especially knowing that they are pretty much guessing on the strand. Given the fact that only 30% of the flu shots were effective, it just confirmed my stand a little bit more. I rather take my chances with the flu (which this is probably the second time I have gotten it all of my life) than with something thats not really effective.

I can see that point of view. However, I'll take 30% effective versus 0% any day. Regardless, I keep a bottle of Tamiflu ready just in case.

Tamiflu was hard to come by when I finally went to the doctor and got it prescribed.

Yeah, it's expensive too even with insurance. I've never used the entire bottle either which is why I keep it around for a little while afterwards. I do remember there being a shortage a couple of years ago. I think there is actually a shortage now in California given 20+ people have already died from the flu.

You got a bottle? I ended up getting pills

Kids get the bottle. I've never needed Tami-flu pills personally since I get the vaccine. Ha! j/k

Never had a flu shot in my life. Have gotten the flu like once in 10 years. No idea what that means, but it is what it is.