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Southern Illinois Coach: "We have to Expand"
Not only are power conference schools fearful of scheduling home-and-home series with schools in leagues such as the MVC, but future opportunities even to be bought (a guaranteed amount of money) for a road game could be greatly reduced.

The Big Ten has announced it will go to a 20-game conference schedule (from the current 18) next season. The ACC is expected to do so the following season. The other three power-five conferences could follow suit.

That means less quality games for Valley schools — and less of a chance to get a win to pad an NCAA tourney resume.

"Every coach in our league is in agreement and we know where this is headed. We have to expand," said Southern Illinois coach Barry Hinson. "We have to go to 20 conference games.

"I don't know who that is. I don't know who the best fit is. I'm excited about Valpo in our league. I think they add to our league. It was a great decision by our conference, but I think you need to add two more teams."

When the MVC added Valpo last spring, Elgin said a presidents-led committee would continue to look at expansion this school year.

"It (expansion) would help us schedule because it's difficult to get games." said Missouri State coach Paul Lusk.

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12-08-2017 01:44 AM
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Murray St. has got to be their top get.

Maybe, Milwaukee or Omaha
12-08-2017 02:01 AM
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Barry Hinson was in an off the cuff interview preseason where Murray St came up and he said (paraphrased) “we all thought this would be a Valley rivalry this season, but I bet it happens next”. Also I read somwhere where the MVC stipulated in their Arch Madness renewal contract this summer to allow for 4 Thursday games starting 2019.

It seems everyone and their grandma is assuming Murray will be in the MVC next year. MVC bypassing the Racers would be the BXII bypassing Louisville of mid-majorville.

Question is who they add for #12. That could create a ripple effect (Fort Wayne to Horizon, UMKC to Summit). Does OVC add USI or poach Lipscomb? ASun/WAC could drop below 8.
12-08-2017 02:22 AM
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(12-08-2017 02:22 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Barry Hinson was in an off the cuff interview preseason where Murray St came up and he said (paraphrased) “we all thought this would be a Valley rivalry this season, but I bet it happens next”. Also I read somwhere where the MVC stipulated in their Arch Madness renewal contract this summer to allow for 4 Thursday games starting 2019.

It seems everyone and their grandma is assuming Murray will be in the MVC next year. MVC bypassing the Racers would be the BXII bypassing Louisville of mid-majorville.

Question is who they add for #12. That could create a ripple effect (Fort Wayne to Horizon, UMKC to Summit). Does OVC add USI or poach Lipscomb? ASun/WAC could drop below 8.

The Mo St President leads the MVC expansion committee and he wants some school near him - presumably ORU or UMKC.

The Horizon will take almost any Midwestern team left as the Summit will be non-pouchable soon. The one school the Horizon won't take is W Ill, which will have to be content with the OVC. The OVC will take USI and Lipscomb because Jax St, Belmont, and EKU are leaving.

Merry St needs an answer soon, as football scheduling would be a major chore if left til later like last year.
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12-08-2017 02:38 AM
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Murray State is good for basketball, but for the MVC to find a quality of school with good men and women's basketball? Omaha and UMKC do not cut it. It weakens their RPI. I would not be surprise that Missouri State might be lobbying for Arkansas Tech to join. Their RPI is better than several D1 schools in basketball. It is not far from Russellville to Springfield. It is just a few hours bus ride. It does gets you into another state that is southern. MVC is better well known name than the Southland. Arkansas Tech could slide their football program as number 12 to the MVFC. Arkansas Tech have went to post season with most of their sports.
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(12-08-2017 03:26 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Murray State is good for basketball, but for the MVC to find a quality of school with good men and women's basketball? Omaha and UMKC do not cut it. It weakens their RPI. I would not be surprise that Missouri State might be lobbying for Arkansas Tech to join. Their RPI is better than several D1 schools in basketball. It is not far from Russellville to Springfield. It is just a few hours bus ride. It does gets you into another state that is southern. MVC is better well known name than the Southland. Arkansas Tech could slide their football program as number 12 to the MVFC. Arkansas Tech have went to post season with most of their sports.

The MVC considers itself too good for DII moveups. Look to the Southland or the OVC for that.
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I had totally forgotten about the Wonder Boys. They beat Concordia-St. Paul by 19, who pasted Milwaukee by 14, who dispatched Iowa St by 18. Given UWM is deemed the front runner for #12 and owns Horizon’s top RPI, ATU could win the Valley - let alone the Horizon.

Arkansas Tech also adds green (a color the league does not have) to the MVC’s color palette, while minimizing the impact to Horizon/OVC/Summit/ASun/WAC - a chief concern expressed by Elgin last year.
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If their main goal is to increase the number of in-conference games, they don't have to expand to do so. Am I missing something?
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(12-08-2017 05:56 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  If their main goal is to increase the number of in-conference games, they don't have to expand to do so. Am I missing something?

Aren't they at 10? They only need 1 to be added to play 20 conference games.
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(12-08-2017 08:03 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(12-08-2017 05:56 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  If their main goal is to increase the number of in-conference games, they don't have to expand to do so. Am I missing something?

Aren't they at 10? They only need 1 to be added to play 20 conference games.

But why not just have each team play 2 others 3 times?
12-08-2017 08:10 AM
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