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Greenberg: UConn Should Be in Big East
Interesting comments last night from Seth Greenberg (and also Dick Vitale) during the ESPN telecast of the Syracuse/UConn game.

Seth Greenberg: “If I was a UConn fan I’d do everything I can to make sure that UConn gets back in the Big East. UConn has got to get back to the Big East where they belong. No offense to the American Athletic conference but the Big East is a GREAT basketball conference."

Kind of odd to see ESPN commentators talk down one of their own properties. I can't remember seeing that before.

FTR, I don't think UConn is coming back to the Big East. 07-coffee3
12-06-2017 03:08 PM
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RE: Greenberg: UConn Should Be in Big East
(12-06-2017 03:08 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Interesting comments last night from Seth Greenberg (and also Dick Vitale) during the ESPN telecast of the Syracuse/UConn game.

Seth Greenberg: “If I was a UConn fan I’d do everything I can to make sure that UConn gets back in the Big East. UConn has got to get back to the Big East where they belong. No offense to the American Athletic conference but the Big East is a GREAT basketball conference."

Kind of odd to see ESPN commentators talk down one of their own properties. I can't remember seeing that before.

FTR, I don't think UConn is coming back to the Big East. 07-coffee3

I doubt they'd go back to the Big East but I'd love to see them there. It would help the original Big East schools in the Northeast stomach the Midwest expansion of the conference. If they simply added Connecticut, then a 20-game conference schedule would be a cinch.
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(12-06-2017 03:08 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Interesting comments last night from Seth Greenberg (and also Dick Vitale) during the ESPN telecast of the Syracuse/UConn game.

Seth Greenberg: “If I was a UConn fan I’d do everything I can to make sure that UConn gets back in the Big East. UConn has got to get back to the Big East where they belong. No offense to the American Athletic conference but the Big East is a GREAT basketball conference."

Kind of odd to see ESPN commentators talk down one of their own properties. I can't remember seeing that before.

FTR, I don't think UConn is coming back to the Big East. 07-coffee3

UConn is between a rock and a hard place. As long as there is even a tiny sliver of hope for a P5 invite down the road, then it simply cannot leave the AAC. P5 membership is based on football and independence simply isn't realistically viable for a school like UConn.

However, the money is simple: the Big East makes more TV money just based on basketball than the AAC (and every other G5 conference) makes on football and basketball *combined*. We can argue all day about whether the Big East would get the same contract again or the AAC will get a better contract in a few years and yada yada yada... but the fact is that the Big East completely CRUSHES the G5 conferences when it comes to TV money, which is essentially the entire crux of the conference realignment game. It says something that schools like DePaul and Seton Hall are making more TV money than schools like UConn outright... and when you consider that those Big East schools aren't having to deal with the costs of FBS football, the revenue/expense/P&L gap is a complete blowout.

I think that if UConn decided to drop FBS football, then they'd clearly want to be in the Big East (as it's simply the most desirable conference for *any* non-FBS Division I basketball school outside of the Ivy League). However, they're not dropping FBS football at any point soon, in which case it needs to do everything it can to do what's best for its FBS football program since that's the reality of today's college sports world. That means staying in the AAC and praying that there's a P5 invite in a few years.
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I mean, at this point UConn might as well wait another year and see what the AAC's new media deal looks like before making any decision, but he's not wrong. UConn's rightful place is alongside 'Nova as co-kings of basketball in the northeast. Of course, there are some on-court issues to work out as well, but right now UConn's playing to their weaknesses rather than their strengths.
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(12-06-2017 03:29 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  UConn is between a rock and a hard place. As long as there is even a tiny sliver of hope for a P5 invite down the road, then it simply cannot leave the AAC. P5 membership is based on football and independence simply isn't realistically viable for a school like UConn.

However, the money is simple: the Big East makes more TV money just based on basketball than the AAC (and every other G5 conference) makes on football and basketball *combined*. We can argue all day about whether the AAC will get a better contract in a few years and yada yada yada... but the fact is that the Big East completely CRUSHES the G5 conferences when it comes to TV money, which is essentially the entire crux of the conference realignment game. I

Someone hasn't been paying attention.

UConn (along with Cincy and USF) have been augmenting their American TV money with exit fees from Louisville, Syracuse, West Va, Pitt etc. Considering exit fee surplus combined with TV money, and UConn would have made LESS MONEY in the Big East.

And that's before you get to the $10M exit fee cost UConn would owe if they left.

So it really DOES matter what the next American TV contract looks like. And it matters how this Wichita State experiment works out in terms of getting more NCAA tournament bids for the American.
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RE: Greenberg: UConn Should Be in Big East
(12-06-2017 03:08 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Interesting comments last night from Seth Greenberg (and also Dick Vitale) during the ESPN telecast of the Syracuse/UConn game.

Seth Greenberg: “If I was a UConn fan I’d do everything I can to make sure that UConn gets back in the Big East. UConn has got to get back to the Big East where they belong. No offense to the American Athletic conference but the Big East is a GREAT basketball conference."

Kind of odd to see ESPN commentators talk down one of their own properties. I can't remember seeing that before.


FTR, I don't think UConn is coming back to the Big East. 07-coffee3

You must not remember or watched much of ESPN's coverage of Big East football from 2005-2012. They used to piss on us all the time. I remember watching on College Football Live that they had a graphic that read "The Big Least". Btw, they continue to shyte on the AAC and its members.

As to UConn, they would have to forsake football in order to get back to the Big East, and based on the amount of cash they've invested on the gridiron, I have to think they are at a point of no return at this point.
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RE: Greenberg: UConn Should Be in Big East
(12-06-2017 03:39 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 03:29 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  UConn is between a rock and a hard place. As long as there is even a tiny sliver of hope for a P5 invite down the road, then it simply cannot leave the AAC. P5 membership is based on football and independence simply isn't realistically viable for a school like UConn.

However, the money is simple: the Big East makes more TV money just based on basketball than the AAC (and every other G5 conference) makes on football and basketball *combined*. We can argue all day about whether the AAC will get a better contract in a few years and yada yada yada... but the fact is that the Big East completely CRUSHES the G5 conferences when it comes to TV money, which is essentially the entire crux of the conference realignment game. I

Someone hasn't been paying attention.

UConn (along with Cincy and USF) have been augmenting their American TV money with exit fees from Louisville, Syracuse, West Va, Pitt etc. Considering exit fee surplus combined with TV money, and UConn would have made LESS MONEY in the Big East.

And that's before you get to the $10M exit fee cost UConn would owe if they left.

So it really DOES matter what the next American TV contract looks like. And it matters how this Wichita State experiment works out in terms of getting more NCAA tournament bids for the American.

Didn't the exit fees finish/conclude last year? Didn't Syracuse/Pittsburgh/West Virginia/etc. all pay less than what the predetermined exit fees were due to settlement when they left the Big East?
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If UConn was in the Big East this year, they would be 10th place. Ahead of only DePaul.

Moving to the Big East is not necessary to right the ship in men's hoops. Hiring a better coach is.

For example, see Geno winning several national titles in the American, which is not a good women's league.
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(12-06-2017 03:43 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Didn't the exit fees finish/conclude last year?

According to an article written in June 2017, they end after "next fiscal year."

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-husk...story.html
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RE: Greenberg: UConn Should Be in Big East
(12-06-2017 03:08 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Interesting comments last night from Seth Greenberg (and also Dick Vitale) during the ESPN telecast of the Syracuse/UConn game.

Seth Greenberg: “If I was a UConn fan I’d do everything I can to make sure that UConn gets back in the Big East. UConn has got to get back to the Big East where they belong. No offense to the American Athletic conference but the Big East is a GREAT basketball conference."

Kind of odd to see ESPN commentators talk down one of their own properties. I can't remember seeing that before.

FTR, I don't think UConn is coming back to the Big East. 07-coffee3

Oh so we can play Syracuse... hold on wait
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