(09-24-2017 11:54 AM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:29 AM)olderduke Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 09:43 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  #7 Villanova and #8 Richmond go down. Rough day for CAA.

What do you mean? They loss to CAA teams...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The CAA is stronger with Albany and Elon winning, not weaker. Maine is good, SB is good, what's not to like about the strength of the conference? (Coming from a JMU2FBS fan)

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I think the OP said it because the two
CAA teams that lost were ranked in the top 10 and lost to unranked CAA foes. That means the CAA will only have one top 10 team next week most likely in JMU.

Yes that’s what I meant. What is better. Three top ten teams or seven top 25 teams?

(09-24-2017 09:08 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:54 AM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:29 AM)olderduke Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 09:43 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  #7 Villanova and #8 Richmond go down. Rough day for CAA.

What do you mean? They loss to CAA teams...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The CAA is stronger with Albany and Elon winning, not weaker. Maine is good, SB is good, what's not to like about the strength of the conference? (Coming from a JMU2FBS fan)

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I think the OP said it because the two
CAA teams that lost were ranked in the top 10 and lost to unranked CAA foes. That means the CAA will only have one top 10 team next week most likely in JMU.

Yes that’s what I meant. What is better. Three top ten teams or seven top 25 teams?

Idk honestly, but I would actually say seven top 25. I mean, if we had 3 top 10 and nobody else in top 25, we'd probably get 3 or 4 tournament bids. If we have seven in the top 25, probably get close to 6 or 7. I'd say you'd probably have an equal amount of total tournament wins with those results. Regardless, It doesn't change the strength of the conference as a whole.

(09-25-2017 07:31 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:08 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:54 AM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:29 AM)olderduke Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  What do you mean? They loss to CAA teams...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The CAA is stronger with Albany and Elon winning, not weaker. Maine is good, SB is good, what's not to like about the strength of the conference? (Coming from a JMU2FBS fan)

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I think the OP said it because the two
CAA teams that lost were ranked in the top 10 and lost to unranked CAA foes. That means the CAA will only have one top 10 team next week most likely in JMU.

Yes that’s what I meant. What is better. Three top ten teams or seven top 25 teams?

Idk honestly, but I would actually say seven top 25. I mean, if we had 3 top 10 and nobody else in top 25, we'd probably get 3 or 4 tournament bids. If we have seven in the top 25, probably get close to 6 or 7. I'd say you'd probably have an equal amount of total tournament wins with those results. Regardless, It doesn't change the strength of the conference as a whole.

It does matter because of the seedings, byes, and strength of schedule. Now that Richmond and Villanova are going to drop from the top 10 we'll probably see 5 or 6 MVC teams in there, plus to 2 Southern teams that don't deserve to be.

Again, great if the conference as a whole is stronger but it's going to be much harder to have a strong playoff showing if all other CAA teams are playing first round games and on the road for second round. Plus the potential to "dilute" our strength of schedule for our seeding.

At the end of the day, of course, we just need to take care of our own bidness and win out.

(09-25-2017 09:08 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 07:31 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 09:08 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:54 AM)atljmualum Wrote:  

(09-24-2017 11:29 AM)olderduke Wrote:  Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. The CAA is stronger with Albany and Elon winning, not weaker. Maine is good, SB is good, what's not to like about the strength of the conference? (Coming from a JMU2FBS fan)

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I think the OP said it because the two
CAA teams that lost were ranked in the top 10 and lost to unranked CAA foes. That means the CAA will only have one top 10 team next week most likely in JMU.

Yes that’s what I meant. What is better. Three top ten teams or seven top 25 teams?

Idk honestly, but I would actually say seven top 25. I mean, if we had 3 top 10 and nobody else in top 25, we'd probably get 3 or 4 tournament bids. If we have seven in the top 25, probably get close to 6 or 7. I'd say you'd probably have an equal amount of total tournament wins with those results. Regardless, It doesn't change the strength of the conference as a whole.

It does matter because of the seedings, byes, and strength of schedule. Now that Richmond and Villanova are going to drop from the top 10 we'll probably see 5 or 6 MVC teams in there, plus to 2 Southern teams that don't deserve to be.

Again, great if the conference as a whole is stronger but it's going to be much harder to have a strong playoff showing if all other CAA teams are playing first round games and on the road for second round. Plus the potential to "dilute" our strength of schedule for our seeding.

At the end of the day, of course, we just need to take care of our own bidness and win out.

If we end up playing 4 top 25 vs 2 top 10 teams, I actually think the 4 top 25 will result in better seeding assuming we win all games in both scenarios.

You can say teams are going to have a harder time on the road, and I'll agree with that, but when you double the amount of teams you have in the tournament, the odds tend to even out.

I do agree at the end with the "dilute" statement for us in particular. Since Albany may be the seconds best team in the conference and they aren't on our schedule, but if they lose to Elon, Richmond, or anyone else on our schedule, it won't really matter much.

MVFC... looks like they will own half the top 10 (at least)

As of now, if NDSU and JMU both go undefeated ... we are not getting the #1 seed

Lots of football to go still - and happy for Elon, Albany, SB - love it if they join T25 this week. Elon has absolutely earned it!

(09-25-2017 11:29 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  MVFC... looks like they will own half the top 10 (at least)

As of now, if NDSU and JMU both go undefeated ... we are not getting the #1 seed

Lots of football to go still - and happy for Elon, Albany, SB - love it if they join T25 this week. Elon has absolutely earned it!

Meh, as long as we are #2 it doesn't matter. Also - I think we have an easier road to undefeated than NDSU does.

The MVFC teams are going to start beating each other at some point. At least two, probably three of those teams will not be in the top 10 by playoff selection time.

They moved up due to slot voting and a number of top 10 teams (usually from the 6-10 range) have been knocked off this year. There's a clear top 5 in FCS, but 6-25 is a complete crap shoot at this point in the season.

(09-25-2017 11:29 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  MVFC... looks like they will own half the top 10 (at least)

As of now, if NDSU and JMU both go undefeated ... we are not getting the #1 seed

Lots of football to go still - and happy for Elon, Albany, SB - love it if they join T25 this week. Elon has absolutely earned it!

While this is a potential concern, scores matter too. If we blow the doors off CAA teams, and NDSU squeaks by, that can change perceptions.

NDSU did blow out a weak Robert Morris team this week 56-0, and I’m curious if we see any shift in the poll votes this week after that.

(09-25-2017 11:48 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  While this is a potential concern, scores matter too. If we blow the doors off CAA teams, and NDSU squeaks by, that can change perceptions.

NDSU did blow out a weak Robert Morris team this week 56-0, and I’m curious if we see any shift in the poll votes this week after that.

I agree on the need to blow out teams if we can. It's the "wow factor". It seems to affect SHSU vs their SLC teams to an extent.

If a CAA team lets us drub them into the ground, we need to do so. For the stats and rankings if nothing else.

Coaches poll:
1) JMU - votes unchanged
14) UNH
15) Ticks
17) Nova
22) Albany
26) Stony Brook (getting votes)
27) Elon (getting votes)

If we go undefeated the rest of the regular season it would be a tough call for the committee to bump the reigning national champs out of a #1 seed having won 23 straight and not having lost to and FCS team since December 2015. If they did, HCMH would have the team on fire for being disrespected by giving the #1 seed to NDSU. (so that may not be a bad thing heading into the playoffs).

(09-25-2017 11:29 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  MVFC... looks like they will own half the top 10 (at least)

As of now, if NDSU and JMU both go undefeated ... we are not getting the #1 seed

Lots of football to go still - and happy for Elon, Albany, SB - love it if they join T25 this week. Elon has absolutely earned it!

why do you say that?

(09-25-2017 11:58 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Coaches poll:
1) JMU - votes unchanged
14) UNH
15) Ticks
17) Nova
22) Albany
26) Stony Brook (getting votes)
27) Elon (getting votes)

Elon hosed - oddly pulling for them - maybe it's that damn nice little stadium they have.

this is all about SOS - which is tricky when we starting beating on each other...its the strong OOC wins that really help. Selection committee was right last year in pushing Softies to #5 (maybe should have been lower).

Agreed on that Top5 comment.. the rest is loaded with parity this year - Blue Chickens next!

Looks like Elon is in on Stats poll... 6 each in t25 for CAA and MVFC - but all of theirs are 13 or higher.

(09-25-2017 12:19 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Looks like Elon is in on Stats poll... 6 each in t25 for CAA and MVFC - but all of theirs are 13 or higher.

We lost two #1 votes this week in the Stats poll, and Sammy picked up one of them. Trying to figure out where the other one went (maybe someone didn’t vote?)

Not a big shift really, though not sure what convinced someone to give Sammy a new #1 this week after playing Nichols. Would have been less surprised if NDSU had gotten it, though they also faced a weak team.

Don't worry about the polls, my friends. Doomsday has been pushed back from this past Saturday, Sep. 23, to now mid-October...

http://www.newsweek.com/doomsday-conspir...ber-670253

See, the 23rd wasn't really when the apocalypse was going to happen. It was just when a big sign was to take place. The REAL thing is going to happen in just a few weeks.

(09-25-2017 12:00 PM)DRDukes Wrote:  If we go undefeated the rest of the regular season it would be a tough call for the committee to bump the reigning national champs out of a #1 seed having won 23 straight and not having lost to and FCS team since December 2015. If they did, HCMH would have the team on fire for being disrespected by giving the #1 seed to NDSU. (so that may not be a bad thing heading into the playoffs).

This. If we win, we're #1. Most people are rational and are willing to give the champs the benefit of the doubt if they keep winning.

It's also a moot point. I don't really see NDSU going 8-0 in MVFC play.

(09-25-2017 12:44 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(09-25-2017 12:19 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Looks like Elon is in on Stats poll... 6 each in t25 for CAA and MVFC - but all of theirs are 13 or higher.

We lost two #1 votes this week in the Stats poll, and Sammy picked up one of them. Trying to figure out where the other one went (maybe someone didn’t vote?)

Not a big shift really, though not sure what convinced someone to give Sammy a new #1 this week after playing Nichols. Would have been less surprised if NDSU had gotten it, though they also faced a weak team.

Not to mention their "signature win" against the spatters isn't looking so good.
Sad to say people don't learn. As the season goes on, they'll beat up on their cupcakes and continue to get 1st place votes only to get blown out by a real football team in the playoffs.

Big test for softies this week...Central Ark

Lose and they are out of the T10 ... lose another (doubtful) and they sink

go bottom half CAA!

(09-23-2017 09:38 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 09:34 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(09-23-2017 09:27 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Well there goes Gameday.

Not necessarily, NDSU hosted twice against unranked oppoments (Delaware St and Incarnate Word). Villanova is better known and will likely stay in the top 25.

Agree. They were in nyc today. It’s about the show. We have the best show.

It is about the venue. Keep in mind, we are not playing on ESPN that day so who we play means little. It is about JMUs campus and the crowd that shows up.

The game is sold out. Anyone who missed it the last time will be there and those that made it will want to be there again. Just win baby and the rest will fall into place.