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(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-18-2017 07:34 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  But I'm ready for President Pence. Our current president is a caricature, appealing now to only his most hardcore supporters. Adolph Hitler gets better press and I don't see that changing. Drain the swamp indeed. From what I've been told his new chief of staff asked to have the ability to vet the president's tweets, and he was told no. Then President Trump was given an opportunity to show leadership via the Spain crisis, but what did he do? He tweeted about the bogus legend of Black Jack Pershing, again merely to keep support from his most hardcore base. If a president is put into this position.....he cannot lead. It is more than apparent he has lost the trust of the american people. Time for him to go.

Then call your Congressman and Senators. The only way to remove him is impeachment and not a fuzzy concern that he is a "caricature" and "can't lead" because of some tweets.

I'm not totally up on it, but can you remove a president from office using the 25th amendment without impeachment?
For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
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(08-18-2017 10:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:59 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 07:34 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  But I'm ready for President Pence. Our current president is a caricature, appealing now to only his most hardcore supporters. Adolph Hitler gets better press and I don't see that changing. Drain the swamp indeed. From what I've been told his new chief of staff asked to have the ability to vet the president's tweets, and he was told no. Then President Trump was given an opportunity to show leadership via the Spain crisis, but what did he do? He tweeted about the bogus legend of Black Jack Pershing, again merely to keep support from his most hardcore base. If a president is put into this position.....he cannot lead. It is more than apparent he has lost the trust of the american people. Time for him to go.

Then call your Congressman and Senators. The only way to remove him is impeachment and not a fuzzy concern that he is a "caricature" and "can't lead" because of some tweets.

I'm not totally up on it, but can you remove a president from office using the 25th amendment without impeachment?
For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.
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(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:59 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Then call your Congressman and Senators. The only way to remove him is impeachment and not a fuzzy concern that he is a "caricature" and "can't lead" because of some tweets.

I'm not totally up on it, but can you remove a president from office using the 25th amendment without impeachment?
For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Why do you get to make that assessment for the rest of us?
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(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm not totally up on it, but can you remove a president from office using the 25th amendment without impeachment?
For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Why do you get to make that assessment for the rest of us?

The assessment is mine alone. Hence the title, I don't know about anybody else.
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(08-18-2017 09:26 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump has been a failure on so many levels.

He's either a raging bigot or panders to them. How hard is it to not defend the Nazis? For him, pretty hard. But then he has to signal his support for them by taking their argument up regarding veneration of the Confederacy and then floating a pardon for a Sheriff who has not even admitted guilt for the crime of racially profiling people.

He promised to defeat ISIS within 30 days with a secret plan. He makes military decisions without bothering to consult anyone in the military. He's attempting to outsource our military to a political ally who is the brother of one of his cabinet secretaries. He claims that he's upgraded our arsenal, when nothing has happened, he gets involved in sideshow spats with idiots simply in an attempt to deflect attention from the multiple scandals swirling around his administration

And then, there are the scandals. Pay for play. Emoluments discussions. Attempts to bully those investigating them. Attempts to argue that the President can't be investigated at all.

Then there are his appointees. Family members, people from his company, ideologues with little experience within the areas of appointment.

Then there's the whole Russia thing. He's not playing 4d chess.

Then the juvenile twitter behavior.

The left has screamed racist for so long no one hears it any more. Same with rape, homophobia, and probably quite a few other forgotten things. And it's a shame because there are still some REAL, and truly damaging and harmful, instances of racism, rape, homophobia, etc. that have been rendered completely meaningless by the same people who thought it was a totes great idea to see it everywhere.

The arrogance of most of the liberal comments about the President reflects exactly the type of smug self-appointed superiority that has led to widespread resentment of the left among reasonable people.

It's a large reason why Trump won and yet the left just keeps doing the same thing that lost them the election. You'd think they would have figured it out by now.
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(08-18-2017 10:33 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Why do you get to make that assessment for the rest of us?

The assessment is mine alone. Hence the title, I don't know about anybody else.

Fair point.
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(08-18-2017 08:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 07:34 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  But I'm ready for President Pence. Our current president is a caricature, appealing now to only his most hardcore supporters. Adolph Hitler gets better press and I don't see that changing. Drain the swamp indeed. From what I've been told his new chief of staff asked to have the ability to vet the president's tweets, and he was told no. Then President Trump was given an opportunity to show leadership via the Spain crisis, but what did he do? He tweeted about the bogus legend of Black Jack Pershing, again merely to keep support from his most hardcore base. If a president is put into this position.....he cannot lead. It is more than apparent he has lost the trust of the american people. Time for him to go.

completely disagree

why???

for all the reasons why folks are continually understanding washtub brainwashing....however, .I do like him taking over in '20 or '24 after all the msm meltdown turns the corner

some of yaz simply expect magic every day....it doesn't matter who it is at this point if you go status quo....

I'm already seeing fewer vehicles at the sect 8s

I highly recommend turning off the boob-tube and driving around more....the economy is moving forward again....

I completely disagree also. Trump was #17 of the 17 Republican candidates on my list for a lot of the reasons you suggest, but he is who he is. He was democratically elected and trying to remove him is treason. Where were all these people all worked up about him back in August? He is actually better than I expected. He is doing the right things on policy. And giving in to the treacherous, duplicitous media is what Republicans have been doing for 30 years.

On Charlottesville he said ALL the right things. He had previously disavowed white supremacists and did so again. He was awkward, but he did say all the right things despite the lies spread by the media and some Republicans. He will always be awkward and will not adopt the best tone. It is what it is. We need to make the best of it, not help the Democrats and the traitors trying to overthrow the Constitution.
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(08-18-2017 09:26 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump has been a failure on so many levels.

He's either a raging bigot or panders to them. How hard is it to not defend the Nazis? For him, pretty hard. But then he has to signal his support for them by taking their argument up regarding veneration of the Confederacy and then floating a pardon for a Sheriff who has not even admitted guilt for the crime of racially profiling people.

He promised to defeat ISIS within 30 days with a secret plan. He makes military decisions without bothering to consult anyone in the military. He's attempting to outsource our military to a political ally who is the brother of one of his cabinet secretaries. He claims that he's upgraded our arsenal, when nothing has happened, he gets involved in sideshow spats with idiots simply in an attempt to deflect attention from the multiple scandals swirling around his administration

And then, there are the scandals. Pay for play. Emoluments discussions. Attempts to bully those investigating them. Attempts to argue that the President can't be investigated at all.

Then there are his appointees. Family members, people from his company, ideologues with little experience within the areas of appointment.

Then there's the whole Russia thing. He's not playing 4d chess.

Then the juvenile twitter behavior.

The left has screamed racist for so long no one hears it any more. Same with rape, homophobia, and probably quite a few other forgotten things. And it's a shame because there are still some REAL, and truly damaging and harmful, instances of racism, rape, homophobia, etc. that have been rendered completely meaningless by the same people who thought it was a totes great idea to see it everywhere.

The arrogance of most of the liberal comments about the President reflects exactly the type of smug self-appointed superiority that has led to widespread resentment of the left among reasonable people.

^This
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(08-18-2017 09:48 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Just one clarification, the right has screamed that the left has screamed racist for so long that no one hears it anymore.

Claims of racism on the right has been one of the pillars of the Democratic party for the past 50 years. Give me a break.
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(08-18-2017 10:45 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 07:34 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  But I'm ready for President Pence. Our current president is a caricature, appealing now to only his most hardcore supporters. Adolph Hitler gets better press and I don't see that changing. Drain the swamp indeed. From what I've been told his new chief of staff asked to have the ability to vet the president's tweets, and he was told no. Then President Trump was given an opportunity to show leadership via the Spain crisis, but what did he do? He tweeted about the bogus legend of Black Jack Pershing, again merely to keep support from his most hardcore base. If a president is put into this position.....he cannot lead. It is more than apparent he has lost the trust of the american people. Time for him to go.

completely disagree

why???

for all the reasons why folks are continually understanding washtub brainwashing....however, .I do like him taking over in '20 or '24 after all the msm meltdown turns the corner

some of yaz simply expect magic every day....it doesn't matter who it is at this point if you go status quo....

I'm already seeing fewer vehicles at the sect 8s

I highly recommend turning off the boob-tube and driving around more....the economy is moving forward again....

I completely disagree also. Trump was #17 of the 17 Republican candidates on my list for a lot of the reasons you suggest, but he is who he is. He was democratically elected and trying to remove him is treason. Where were all these people all worked up about him back in August? He is actually better than I expected. He is doing the right things on policy. And giving in to the treacherous, duplicitous media is what Republicans have been doing for 30 years.

On Charlottesville he said ALL the right things. He had previously disavowed white supremacists and did so again. He was awkward, but he did say all the right things despite the lies spread by the media and some Republicans. He will always be awkward and will not adopt the best tone. It is what it is. We need to make the best of it, not help the Democrats and the traitors trying to overthrow the Constitution.

Treason? Really? By advocating impeachment or using the 25th Amendment under the Constitution?

And do you have any comments on the emoluments clause, while we're talking about overthrowing the constitution?
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(08-18-2017 09:46 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:35 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump has been a failure on so many levels.

He's either a raging bigot or panders to them. How hard is it to not defend the Nazis? For him, pretty hard. But then he has to signal his support for them by taking their argument up regarding veneration of the Confederacy and then floating a pardon for a Sheriff who has not even admitted guilt for the crime of racially profiling people.

He promised to defeat ISIS within 30 days with a secret plan. He makes military decisions without bothering to consult anyone in the military. He's attempting to outsource our military to a political ally who is the brother of one of his cabinet secretaries. He claims that he's upgraded our arsenal, when nothing has happened, he gets involved in sideshow spats with idiots simply in an attempt to deflect attention from the multiple scandals swirling around his administration

And then, there are the scandals. Pay for play. Emoluments discussions. Attempts to bully those investigating them. Attempts to argue that the President can't be investigated at all.

Then there are his appointees. Family members, people from his company, ideologues with little experience within the areas of appointment.

Then there's the whole Russia thing. He's not playing 4d chess.

Then the juvenile twitter behavior.

Do you have a link to where he defended Nazis? I must have missed that.

How about when he validated their goals, like the preservation of Confederate statues. His equation of BLM with the Nazis. His refusal to condemn them for days.

To me that is a defense of them. He called some of them 'good people'. The facts are that they were marching shouting "Blood and Soil" and "Jews will not replace us".

More lies and deceit Tom.

Preservation of Confederate statues wasn't really one of their goals. It was their excuse. And they should be preserved. Lots of people besides White Supremacists support that. There was a poll that showed that the majority of Americans agreed that the Rebel flag was a symbol of pride, not a symbol of hatred.

I wouldn't equate BLM with Nazis, but in their violence, they have been worse recently.

And he didn't call any of them good people. He said there were good people who support the preservation of statues who were NOT Nazis and KKK.
He condemned them in his very first comments. He just didn't specifically "name" them in the stupid game the media plays. And he condemned them several times during the election campaign. How many times is enough? Its just a stupid game.
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(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  From a practical perspective, there's not going to be an impeachment for the next 2 years. The GOP Senators are largely cowards.

Basically you have 25-30% of the country that fully supports Trump. But they are a majority in many Republican primaries. So long as the general electorate doesn't punish people who vote 100% of the time with the toddler President, he'll be safe.

That's why the 2018 elections are so important. It really has to be a repudiation of the GOP in general. Because unless they become more afraid of the general election than a group of far right ideologues in the primary, we're not going to get anything on Trump.

Although the real nasty situation will probably develop in 2019 for the GOP. The Dems will take the House in the 2018 elections. They will attempt an impeachment proceeding. Then the Senate will have to stand, on the record on DJT. That would be quite interesting, especially for those that have to run for reelection in 2020 (the numbers are awful for the GOP in that class).

Guys, its unlikely that DJT is going to change at this point. We're going to careen from outrage to outrage. From failure to failure. This isn't going to get better, but is likely to just get worse.

Trump specializes in ripping apart everyone and everything that supports him. The GOP will be no different.

So you are speculating Trump will destroy the GOP just because Obama did it to the Democrats???
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(08-18-2017 10:17 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  Let Pence take over. Then if they come after him starting on day one with the same ferocity they've used against Trump the American people will have no choice but to see what's clearly going on. Trump was a mistake. He doesn't have the temperment required for the job. And I say that as one who voted for him.

They used the same language they use on Trump against Romney, McCain, W., H.W. and Reagan (probably Dole too, but I don't remember). Its just non-stop now.

It would be exactly the same with Pence because he is religious and very conservative. And it would only let up a little for a McCain.
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(08-18-2017 10:33 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
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(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Why do you get to make that assessment for the rest of us?

The assessment is mine alone. Hence the title, I don't know about anybody else.

There are between 80 and 100 Senators who aren't up to the job. Would you suggest that they resign? We've gone 7 of the last 8 years without a budget.
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(08-18-2017 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:33 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Why do you get to make that assessment for the rest of us?

The assessment is mine alone. Hence the title, I don't know about anybody else.

There are between 80 and 100 Senators who aren't up to the job. Would you suggest that they resign? We've gone 7 of the last 8 years without a budget.

That's being pretty conservative too.
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(08-18-2017 10:51 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:45 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:28 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 07:34 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  But I'm ready for President Pence. Our current president is a caricature, appealing now to only his most hardcore supporters. Adolph Hitler gets better press and I don't see that changing. Drain the swamp indeed. From what I've been told his new chief of staff asked to have the ability to vet the president's tweets, and he was told no. Then President Trump was given an opportunity to show leadership via the Spain crisis, but what did he do? He tweeted about the bogus legend of Black Jack Pershing, again merely to keep support from his most hardcore base. If a president is put into this position.....he cannot lead. It is more than apparent he has lost the trust of the american people. Time for him to go.

completely disagree

why???

for all the reasons why folks are continually understanding washtub brainwashing....however, .I do like him taking over in '20 or '24 after all the msm meltdown turns the corner

some of yaz simply expect magic every day....it doesn't matter who it is at this point if you go status quo....

I'm already seeing fewer vehicles at the sect 8s

I highly recommend turning off the boob-tube and driving around more....the economy is moving forward again....

I completely disagree also. Trump was #17 of the 17 Republican candidates on my list for a lot of the reasons you suggest, but he is who he is. He was democratically elected and trying to remove him is treason. Where were all these people all worked up about him back in August? He is actually better than I expected. He is doing the right things on policy. And giving in to the treacherous, duplicitous media is what Republicans have been doing for 30 years.

On Charlottesville he said ALL the right things. He had previously disavowed white supremacists and did so again. He was awkward, but he did say all the right things despite the lies spread by the media and some Republicans. He will always be awkward and will not adopt the best tone. It is what it is. We need to make the best of it, not help the Democrats and the traitors trying to overthrow the Constitution.

Treason? Really? By advocating impeachment or using the 25th Amendment under the Constitution?

And do you have any comments on the emoluments clause, while we're talking about overthrowing the constitution?

Yes, its a fiction covering up the efforts to stage a coup. That fiction is a threat to the very foundation of this country and our elections. Maybe some of you believe it, but the Democratic Party leaders and the Republicans all know it is ridiculous.
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(08-18-2017 09:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump has been a failure on so many levels.
I'll agree with this, but probably not for all of the same reasons you think

Quote:How hard is it to not defend the Nazis?
In some cases, Very... It's unconstitutional for him to not defend them if they are acting within the law and others are not. It depends on exactly which situation you're talking about as to whether that was the case or not, but very clearly you're simply putting all of these people into one bucket and painting them by the actions of the 'worst'

Many within Islam are just as bad as the worst of the Klan, and many of those whom the left 'defend' or characterize as innocent believe and even chant exactly the same beliefs... but they don't actually take up arms themselves so they are 'innocent'. I agree with that, but ALONG with that belief is that I have to extend that same protection to any OTHER group of people who has beliefs that I disagree with.

The law prosecutes people and actions, not 'beliefs'.

I'd ask you Tom... If the government had the power to prosecute beliefs and there weren't a bunch of us on the right who disagree with them having that power, where do you think LGBTs would be today?

I support the right of people to do whatever the hell they please that doesn't hurt others.... which means that I support LGBT rights.... but if the government has the power to 'stamp out' citizens rights based on unpopular beliefs, YOURS would have been stamped out 50 years ago.

Quote:He promised to defeat ISIS within 30 days with a secret plan.

wait, what? I must have missed THAT one.
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(08-18-2017 10:56 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  From a practical perspective, there's not going to be an impeachment for the next 2 years. The GOP Senators are largely cowards.

Basically you have 25-30% of the country that fully supports Trump. But they are a majority in many Republican primaries. So long as the general electorate doesn't punish people who vote 100% of the time with the toddler President, he'll be safe.

That's why the 2018 elections are so important. It really has to be a repudiation of the GOP in general. Because unless they become more afraid of the general election than a group of far right ideologues in the primary, we're not going to get anything on Trump.

Although the real nasty situation will probably develop in 2019 for the GOP. The Dems will take the House in the 2018 elections. They will attempt an impeachment proceeding. Then the Senate will have to stand, on the record on DJT. That would be quite interesting, especially for those that have to run for reelection in 2020 (the numbers are awful for the GOP in that class).

Guys, its unlikely that DJT is going to change at this point. We're going to careen from outrage to outrage. From failure to failure. This isn't going to get better, but is likely to just get worse.

Trump specializes in ripping apart everyone and everything that supports him. The GOP will be no different.

So you are speculating Trump will destroy the GOP just because Obama did it to the Democrats???

Some seem to think that everyone shares a faux outrage. Therein lies the danger of living in an echo chamber where ones thoughts and opinions aren't challenged by ones contemporary peers.

Some don't recognize that what they and their peers consider failures aren't viewed as such by others. If one pushes an agenda and another comes along and disrupts that agenda then I suppose I can see why one might be outraged by such an action.
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(08-18-2017 10:22 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  
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(08-18-2017 09:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:59 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Then call your Congressman and Senators. The only way to remove him is impeachment and not a fuzzy concern that he is a "caricature" and "can't lead" because of some tweets.

I'm not totally up on it, but can you remove a president from office using the 25th amendment without impeachment?
For the good of the American people, he needs to resign.

A sitting POTUS who's been found guilty of nothing other than oafish twitter posts resigning is in no way good for the American people. It only lends itself to creating further instability. Why does the left hate America?
He should resign because he's not up to the job.

Right. His administration so far has been worse for the American people.

The best thing for the country is for him to resign, and quickly. It's way better than impeachment or trying to invoke the 25th amendment.
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(08-18-2017 09:58 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
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(08-18-2017 09:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trump has been a failure on so many levels.

He's either a raging bigot or panders to them. How hard is it to not defend the Nazis? For him, pretty hard. But then he has to signal his support for them by taking their argument up regarding veneration of the Confederacy and then floating a pardon for a Sheriff who has not even admitted guilt for the crime of racially profiling people.

He promised to defeat ISIS within 30 days with a secret plan. He makes military decisions without bothering to consult anyone in the military. He's attempting to outsource our military to a political ally who is the brother of one of his cabinet secretaries. He claims that he's upgraded our arsenal, when nothing has happened, he gets involved in sideshow spats with idiots simply in an attempt to deflect attention from the multiple scandals swirling around his administration

And then, there are the scandals. Pay for play. Emoluments discussions. Attempts to bully those investigating them. Attempts to argue that the President can't be investigated at all.

Then there are his appointees. Family members, people from his company, ideologues with little experience within the areas of appointment.

Then there's the whole Russia thing. He's not playing 4d chess.

Then the juvenile twitter behavior.

Do you have a link to where he defended Nazis? I must have missed that.

Dude...c'mon. He said there were good people marching in a Nazi parade carrying torches shouting against Jews and calling for blood and taking land.

There are no good people marching in a Nazi parade. Period.
Link?

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I should report you for trolling, but did you not see that impromptu press conference from trump Tuesday?
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