Has Jeff Lebo bragged about getting "the Blue Devils" to come play at Minges?

(07-03-2017 04:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
Has Jeff Lebo bragged about getting "the Blue Devils" to come play at Minges?

Central has been a tourney team numerous times, but they suck now.

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(07-03-2017 10:02 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 09:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 08:57 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If Tubby finishes 9th that is a fireable offense at Memphis

I think 9 is the basement, but 6 could be the ceiling.

I look at last season as a throwaway, with the Lawson drama. Maybe call it the last year of the Pastner era. From here, this is on Tubby, and I would give him 2-3 years to see how it goes.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-817664-post-144...id14401320

I've got Memphis going 18-13 (8-10 AAC) which should be good enough for 6th-7th place...game by game W/L listed by clicking link.

I have 17-14. So we're one game apart, and I said we could finish as high as 6th, so we agree there, too.

The Tiger beat writer predicts a 16-15 overall record and 7-11 in the AAC.

IMHO Rothstein makes the logical placement picks, 1 to 9 is the proper betting order, but I'm guessing USF and Tulane are fighting for the 10th spot, putting ECU in 12th, though I admit I am not familiar enough with those three teams to be a fair judge. Besides, with all the changes to each of those three really, it is impossible to predict with any confidence. But 1 to 9 is exactly the way one would have to guess before the season starts.

(07-03-2017 06:49 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The Tiger beat writer predicts a 16-15 overall record and 7-11 in the AAC.

the Tiger beat writers job is to sell papers...his prediction at least achieves that.

(07-03-2017 05:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 10:02 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 09:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 08:57 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If Tubby finishes 9th that is a fireable offense at Memphis

I think 9 is the basement, but 6 could be the ceiling.

I look at last season as a throwaway, with the Lawson drama. Maybe call it the last year of the Pastner era. From here, this is on Tubby, and I would give him 2-3 years to see how it goes.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-817664-post-144...id14401320

I've got Memphis going 18-13 (8-10 AAC) which should be good enough for 6th-7th place...game by game W/L listed by clicking link.

I have 17-14. So we're one game apart, and I said we could finish as high as 6th, so we agree there, too.

I just don't see us losing at UAB...that seems to be the OOC toss-up game.

I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

(07-03-2017 08:45 AM)PonyExpressHoops Wrote:  Reasonable Pre-season Power Rankings. No one is more than a spot away from where I think is reasonable. Would flip some teams, but nothing outrageous.

Houston is 12-6 in conference road games the last two years (6-3 each season). That's second only to SMU at 13-5.

Overall, Houston has won 24 conference games the last two years. 3rd behind SMU and Cincy. And three wins better than 4th place.

Sampson can coach.

Sure, we are homeless this year, playing off campus. And we lost a 2nd rounder.

But we added a lot more talent than we lost.

To say picking Houston 7th is reasonable (and that it's wrong by no more than one spot) ignores reality.

I think his order s as good as anyone else's.
I'm hoping we can get 4-5 teams in the dance.
WSU and UC will start ranked and should make it in and hopefully go deep
SMU should also make it.
UConn has talent and name, heavy early schedule hope they can make it back. The league needs them.
UCF has a good team and needs to take advantage of still having Tacko around

Those are the 5 I think have best shot.
Temple and Houston could jump in there but I'm not sure they can do it this year.

We will find out early on in OCC schedule

Don't sleep on Temple.


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I am cool with the preseason ranking for us. We are a big question mark. We could be bad or we could be good. Our roster is built like that this season with all the new faces. These guys have a lot of upside. We will see how they apply it to D1 ball.

(07-03-2017 09:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 05:28 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 10:02 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 09:13 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 08:57 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  If Tubby finishes 9th that is a fireable offense at Memphis

I think 9 is the basement, but 6 could be the ceiling.

I look at last season as a throwaway, with the Lawson drama. Maybe call it the last year of the Pastner era. From here, this is on Tubby, and I would give him 2-3 years to see how it goes.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-817664-post-144...id14401320

I've got Memphis going 18-13 (8-10 AAC) which should be good enough for 6th-7th place...game by game W/L listed by clicking link.

I have 17-14. So we're one game apart, and I said we could finish as high as 6th, so we agree there, too.

I just don't see us losing at UAB...that seems to be the OOC toss-up game.

I did mine when the schedule was first published, so I have forgotten how I picked that game. It certainly will be close.

(07-03-2017 11:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

IMO, the late season fade was much more due to the Lawsons and their attitude, as opposed to Tubby. We were playing well through the first half of the season, or so.

(07-04-2017 12:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 11:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

IMO, the late season fade was much more due to the Lawsons and their attitude, as opposed to Tubby. We were playing well through the first half of the season, or so.

Still surprised they went to Kansas. They can't pull that stuff at Kansas or they will be the 12th and 13th player off the bench. That's attributed to Kansas having deep rosters especially at the forward position

(07-04-2017 12:26 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 12:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 11:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

IMO, the late season fade was much more due to the Lawsons and their attitude, as opposed to Tubby. We were playing well through the first half of the season, or so.

Still surprised they went to Kansas. They can't pull that stuff at Kansas or they will be the 12th and 13th player off the bench. That's attributed to Kansas having deep rosters especially at the forward position

Not surprising. They wont be able to get in Self's face the way they apparently did with Tubby, but they will be able to get away with a lot of other crap at KU. See it every year. KU probably second only to UK in sweeping bball player garbage under the rug.

See L Vick, former SMU commit who switched to Kansas late in the cycle. He got into some serious hot water a year or two ago and it went away quietly.

(07-04-2017 12:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 11:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

IMO, the late season fade was much more due to the Lawsons and their attitude, as opposed to Tubby. We were playing well through the first half of the season, or so.

IMO, Tubby is the head coach and is responsible for player management.

It he antagonized the Lawson family by (in effect) demoting Keelon and elevating his own son, then it is Tubby's fault.

If Tubby did not recruit good enough players to replace the Lawson's, then Tubby failed.

If Tubby could not motivate other players (many of whom later transferred), then Tubby flopped.

We lost our last two games by 41 points and 30 points. Defeats by those margins in consecutive games (and perhaps in one season) did not occur under Iba, Bartow, Yates, Finch, Price, Jones, Calipari, and Pastner. Let that sink in....

(07-04-2017 04:24 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-04-2017 12:21 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-03-2017 11:15 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I've got Memphis with a losing record (15-16) mainly due to lack of experience at the D-1 level, lack of experience playing with each other, lack of four and five star talent, lack of outside shooting, and lack of managing players when adversity strikes (i.e., the late season fade last year).

IMO, the late season fade was much more due to the Lawsons and their attitude, as opposed to Tubby. We were playing well through the first half of the season, or so.

IMO, Tubby is the head coach and is responsible for player management.

It he antagonized the Lawson family by (in effect) demoting Keelon and elevating his own son, then it is Tubby's fault.

If Tubby did not recruit good enough players to replace the Lawson's, then Tubby failed.

If Tubby could not motivate other players (many of whom later transferred), then Tubby flopped.

We lost our last two games by 41 points and 30 points. Defeats by those margins in consecutive games (and perhaps in one season) did not occur under Iba, Bartow, Yates, Finch, Price, Jones, Calipari, and Pastner. Let that sink in....

really...I thought Keelon was dir of player development?

In no way did he antagonize the Lawson family as Keelon no longer had a job once Pastner left. Tubby can hire whoever he likes as asst coach and if you know anything about Tubby Smith, you know he's not going hire some players dad as an asst just to make them happy. That's not Tubby Smith.

and yeah, Tubby Smith couldn't motivate another coaches kids.

the Lawson's flopped and that's why we lost those games like that...they checked out at the end of the season cause daddy didn't get his way.

(07-04-2017 04:29 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  Oh boy here 83' goes with this fictional demotion

Please don't muck this thread up with the Tubby hate. Use this thread instead

http://csnbbs.com/thread-821262-page-6.html

These are the facts:

1. Keelon was the assistant coach under Paster.

2. Keelon is the father of KJ and Dedric Lawson (was our best player) and the father of two very promising potential recruits.

3. Keelon wanted to remain an Assistant Coach

4. Tubby son, Saul spent three seasons at Texas Tech as the director of video production and team video coordinator.

5. Tubby elevated his son to the Assistant Coaching position.

6. Tubby hired Keelon in a support role - in effect a demotion from the Assistant Coach position.

7. Both KJ and Dedric later transferred to KU and losing a year of eligibility in the process and play for HOF coach.

I will let the reader decide and I will not muddle up the AAC Forum with this disagreement among Tiger fans unless challenged.