RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 03:32 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote: CUSA merging with Sun Belt.
I break out into a cold sweat every time I think how close we were to being left behind in that dumpster fire.
Thank you AAC.
Spraying a little potpourri in your dumpster doesn't change the fact that you are still in a dumpster. When the smell wears off you will see where you sit. Right here with the rest that you "left behind".
lol....Let me know when N Texas and Charlotte show up on our conference schedule. That's when I'll know the potpourri has worn off.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 03:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:32 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote: CUSA merging with Sun Belt.
I break out into a cold sweat every time I think how close we were to being left behind in that dumpster fire.
Thank you AAC.
Spraying a little potpourri in your dumpster doesn't change the fact that you are still in a dumpster. When the smell wears off you will see where you sit. Right here with the rest that you "left behind".
lol....Let me know when N Texas and Charlotte show up on our conference schedule. That's when I'll know the potpourri has worn off.
Don't you guys open your season @ UTSA? And speaking of smells and UTSA, did you guys manage to get the smell of defeat out of your new stadium?
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 03:32 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote: CUSA merging with Sun Belt.
I break out into a cold sweat every time I think how close we were to being left behind in that dumpster fire.
Thank you AAC.
Spraying a little potpourri in your dumpster doesn't change the fact that you are still in a dumpster. When the smell wears off you will see where you sit. Right here with the rest that you "left behind".
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 03:51 PM)mturn017 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:32 PM)goldeneagle21 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 03:18 PM)8BitPirate Wrote: CUSA merging with Sun Belt.
I break out into a cold sweat every time I think how close we were to being left behind in that dumpster fire.
Thank you AAC.
Spraying a little potpourri in your dumpster doesn't change the fact that you are still in a dumpster. When the smell wears off you will see where you sit. Right here with the rest that you "left behind".
lol....Let me know when N Texas and Charlotte show up on our conference schedule. That's when I'll know the potpourri has worn off.
Don't you guys open your season @ UTSA? And speaking of smells and UTSA, did you guys manage to get the smell of defeat out of your new stadium?
Lol...The stench of that loss to UTSA was instrumental in getting us to the Peach Bowl.
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2017 06:37 PM by Attackcoog.)
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
You guys are very much the closest conference to a p5. Most of us G5 schools do want to be in the AAC. But the majority of the conversations are being started &/or continued by the Sunbelt teams wanting to merge with us, CUSA. We, as CUSA know we have a lot of work to do. Some of us will be successful and some will be left behind as the case when some of y'all left CUSA.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 06:47 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote: You guys are very much the closest conference to a p5. Most of us G5 schools do want to be in the AAC. But the majority of the conversations are being started &/or continued by the Sunbelt teams wanting to merge with us, CUSA. We, as CUSA know we have a lot of work to do. Some of us will be successful and some will be left behind as the case when some of y'all left CUSA.
I know some of you guys are completely against it---but if the half-continent conference model only pays $200K, there's really no point in all that travel.
We have a similar footprint---but we are getting about 2 million each in TV money and hope to get more soon---so all the travel is paying off...for now.
That said, UH sells more tickets to visiting fans when nearby big publics like Texas State or UTSA come to town than we do when we play schools in our conference from the east. The Texas St group was especially impressive---I think there are ton of their alums in Houston. Big spread out conferences like the AAC or CUSA are just not conducive to selling tickets to road warrior fans. My guess is if CUSA West was paried with some of the western Sunbelt teams like Texas St, ULL, and Arky St---you'd sell a crap load of extra tickets to roadie fans (especially since SA is pretty good road trip town).
(This post was last modified: 04-27-2017 07:15 PM by Attackcoog.)
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
Yea true but we really need exposure, thats for us though.We have a good OOC slate; TAMU, Texas St , Baylor, etc lined up for the next 4-5 years. So diminishing our travel is probably wise but could hurt us in other areas. But definitely a good point.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 10:46 AM)fanhood Wrote: Trends are going in the other direction. Conferences are going to get smaller, not larger.
Correct...once the P6 splits off from you losers, the G4 will probably splinter into smaller, tighter footprints to allow for bus rides with sack lunches instead of wasting money on airplane rides, restaurants, and hotels. It will be a difficult adjustment, but you people will make it work.
Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 08:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:46 AM)fanhood Wrote: Trends are going in the other direction. Conferences are going to get smaller, not larger.
Correct...once the P6 splits off from you losers, the G4 will probably splinter into smaller, tighter footprints to allow for bus rides with sack lunches instead of wasting money on airplane rides, restaurants, and hotels. It will be a difficult adjustment, but you people will make it work.
Maybe Dairy Whip should go into the catering business for G4 bus trips
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 08:37 PM)Pony94 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 08:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:46 AM)fanhood Wrote: Trends are going in the other direction. Conferences are going to get smaller, not larger.
Correct...once the P6 splits off from you losers, the G4 will probably splinter into smaller, tighter footprints to allow for bus rides with sack lunches instead of wasting money on airplane rides, restaurants, and hotels. It will be a difficult adjustment, but you people will make it work.
Maybe Dairy Whip should go into the catering business for G4 bus trips
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 08:37 PM)Pony94 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 08:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:46 AM)fanhood Wrote: Trends are going in the other direction. Conferences are going to get smaller, not larger.
Correct...once the P6 splits off from you losers, the G4 will probably splinter into smaller, tighter footprints to allow for bus rides with sack lunches instead of wasting money on airplane rides, restaurants, and hotels. It will be a difficult adjustment, but you people will make it work.
Maybe Dairy Whip should go into the catering business for G4 bus trips
Would be a f*****ing gold mine my friend. I have some ideas how we leverage the Dairy Whip brand with the P6 classification helping the little G4 guys. It would almost be considered a charitable contribution, but we would still rake it in. I'll call ya.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 01:51 PM)Bull Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:58 AM)Pony94 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:53 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Because the P4/P5 is going to exclude the AAC and Aresco will have no choice unless he wants to be the jilted middle child of college football.
SO what does that make UMASS? Redheaded stepchild nobody wants?
Does McGuirk Stadium have bathrooms yet?
You just piss on the people in front of you watching the game.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
You guys really need to beat the other G5 teams as the P5 teams do for the most part. If you are losing to CUSA in bowl games or OOC games that doesn't help your p6 agenda. I saw your record vs CUSA in 2016 bowl games. Not good. You have great teams, money for now, and a good future. Start beating the non P5 teams easily and that will continue your separation.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 09:44 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote: You guys really need to beat the other G5 teams as the P5 teams do for the most part. If you are losing to CUSA in bowl games or OOC games that doesn't help your p6 agenda. I saw your record vs CUSA in 2016 bowl games. Not good. You have great teams, money for now, and a good future. Start beating the non P5 teams easily and that will continue your separation.
You're probably right. Houston beating SDSU in an exhbition game would have meant so much more than beating top 5 Oklahoma and Louisville did. Navy should be ashamed to beat ND but with like 11starters lost lose to CUSA #2 in the final seconds of an exhibition game. Because when Fournettes et al skipped bowl games, all the national pundits screamed "Nooooo! This is the single data point on which we will judge your season!"
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 10:07 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 09:44 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote: You guys really need to beat the other G5 teams as the P5 teams do for the most part. If you are losing to CUSA in bowl games or OOC games that doesn't help your p6 agenda. I saw your record vs CUSA in 2016 bowl games. Not good. You have great teams, money for now, and a good future. Start beating the non P5 teams easily and that will continue your separation.
You're probably right. Houston beating SDSU in an exhbition game would have meant so much more than beating top 5 Oklahoma and Louisville did. Navy should be ashamed to beat ND but with like 11starters lost lose to CUSA #2 in the final seconds of an exhibition game. Because when Fournettes et al skipped bowl games, all the national pundits screamed "Nooooo! This is the single data point on which we will judge your season!"
The point was you should be beating teams you consider below you. Not going 0-4 to CUSA teams in bowls. If you want the P6 name you can't be getting swept by lower tier conferences in Bowls.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 10:41 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: I keeps seeing mega threads on G4 boards. Most discuss mergers between The Sun belt and CUSA. But a lot of these guys think the AAC is going to realign with them and try to put our programs in their conferences. Why. Serious question.
It's is obvious that Aresco and Co. want less than zero to do with the G4. It is also obvious that our entire conference strives to be a P6, if not already there. It's also obvious that all of our programs have made commitments to compete at the highest of levels. So, why do they insist on making us part of their mid major, mega conference, proposed mergers? I mean, I keep seeing these proposed geographical conferences like USF, UCF, FAU, FIU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Charlotte, etc. I just don't get it. Why even bring up scenarios that just won't happen. EVER.
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 10:58 AM)Pony94 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:53 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: Because the P4/P5 is going to exclude the AAC and Aresco will have no choice unless he wants to be the jilted middle child of college football.
SO what does that make UMASS? Redheaded stepchild nobody wants?
Actually the MAC wanted them but for all sports which UMASS refused. Big mistake for football survival as the university chose to go independent in football and keep their other sports in the A-10 while waiting for and AAC invite. In the mean time some of the top schools in the A-10 left for the NBE after they decided to stay in the A-10. They may be able to survive independence in football though if more teams like NMST and Liberty keep appearing as football independents in the future to help with scheduling when the other schools begin conference play. In the end though lack of conference TV revenue and payouts, plus lack of bowl contracts might put them back at the FCS level like Idaho down the road if the AAC never comes calling. With the MAC for all sports there was stability for football and the rest of their programs while the school developed the football program, continued with stadium improvements for the FBS level, and developed a larger following while moving up in the college football world especially with their current scheduling of BC, Temple, UConn, and Army, in the New England and Mid Atlantic Region.
(This post was last modified: 04-28-2017 07:18 AM by panite.)
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-27-2017 10:43 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:07 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 09:44 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote: You guys really need to beat the other G5 teams as the P5 teams do for the most part. If you are losing to CUSA in bowl games or OOC games that doesn't help your p6 agenda. I saw your record vs CUSA in 2016 bowl games. Not good. You have great teams, money for now, and a good future. Start beating the non P5 teams easily and that will continue your separation.
You're probably right. Houston beating SDSU in an exhbition game would have meant so much more than beating top 5 Oklahoma and Louisville did. Navy should be ashamed to beat ND but with like 11starters lost lose to CUSA #2 in the final seconds of an exhibition game. Because when Fournettes et al skipped bowl games, all the national pundits screamed "Nooooo! This is the single data point on which we will judge your season!"
The point was you should be beating teams you consider below you. Not going 0-4 to CUSA teams in bowls. If you want the P6 name you can't be getting swept by lower tier conferences in Bowls.
Oh, it's disappointing. It's just not disastrous.
Taken in the context of the whole season, a handful of bowl games are barely a blip on the radar.
Taken in the context of the whole season, bowl record doesn't change the fact that AAC is closer to the five contract-bowl-conferences than to the G4 (for evidence, see: conference mean and median rankings in Massey Composite, TV viewership)
RE: Why do G4 fans think we are going join their conferences mergers
(04-28-2017 07:26 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:43 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:
(04-27-2017 10:07 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:
(04-27-2017 09:44 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote: You guys really need to beat the other G5 teams as the P5 teams do for the most part. If you are losing to CUSA in bowl games or OOC games that doesn't help your p6 agenda. I saw your record vs CUSA in 2016 bowl games. Not good. You have great teams, money for now, and a good future. Start beating the non P5 teams easily and that will continue your separation.
You're probably right. Houston beating SDSU in an exhbition game would have meant so much more than beating top 5 Oklahoma and Louisville did. Navy should be ashamed to beat ND but with like 11starters lost lose to CUSA #2 in the final seconds of an exhibition game. Because when Fournettes et al skipped bowl games, all the national pundits screamed "Nooooo! This is the single data point on which we will judge your season!"
The point was you should be beating teams you consider below you. Not going 0-4 to CUSA teams in bowls. If you want the P6 name you can't be getting swept by lower tier conferences in Bowls.
Oh, it's disappointing. It's just not disastrous.
Taken in the context of the whole season, a handful of bowl games are barely a blip on the radar.
Taken in the context of the whole season, bowl record doesn't change the fact that AAC is closer to the five contract-bowl-conferences than to the G4 (for evidence, see: conference mean and median rankings in Massey Composite, TV viewership)
Well you guys make excuses for losses on a P5 level. Maybe you are making up ground.