(04-10-2017 06:42 PM)TwoTimeTiger Wrote:  I think we hired a coach from some Miss college with his star player.
Was his name Jones?

I think we may have gotten a player from Blytheville, ARK with his coach. Isabel.

Memory is fading as are my hopes of getting back to a Final Four.

My memory may be failing but didn't Milt get a job a UM when Dejuan signed?

(04-10-2017 06:42 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:31 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:21 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:19 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:10 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  Did you not even listen to the interview??? He said a school offered him 300k for the boys and he said no. How much are we paying Pooh and Saul??? They have contributed 0 players Keelon assured you 5 players ranked higher than anyone this staff had ever signed how do you just throw that away??? There is no proof that they can recruit players good enough to play here.

He literally said he was ready this year to bring players in to play for Memphis the same Memphis kids that they are now not going to get. You think Alex Lomax is coming here now??? We'll be lucky to get one Memphis kid for the rest of Tubby's tenure. Then he'll feed you with the Memphis kids don't wanna stay home BS anymore like he said earlier in the year, which any true Memphis fan knows is a LIE.

Keelon's been an upstanding, morally-conscious type of guy, therefore, we should believe his deceptive, conniving lies. Anyone who exploits others for their own personal gain is hardly trustworthy.

What proof do you have of your accusations. Do you have any facts to back up anything you are saying or are you just blindly rolling with the narrative like everyone else who decided thinking for themselves isn't the cool thing to do.

Now, this is quite laughable. I don't succumb to peer pressure or search/seek the approval of posters on a message board. If daddy was coaching material, why did he use his own kids as leverage to get the gig? In the real world you pay your dues like anyone else to get an opportunity regarding your career choice. The entire situation was indicative of shadiness from the very beginning. Tubby inherited this mess.

Too high and mighty to back up your accusations but low enough to talk sh*t about someone you clearly don't know on a message board. What a model citizen there should be more people like you.

Since you won't show me how you got the information that he leveraged his kids to get his job I'm assuming you heard it on the radio from the same people who are now telling you that Memphis screwed up big time with the Keelon situation.

If my assumption is correct then it makes no sense how you can listen to them saying Keelon did what was best for his family when using the boys to get the job. Cause now the boys will be compensated like so many other players should for their hard work. Instead of the AD and Coaches who are the real pimps that profit from their players.

Seriously, dude? Where the hell have you been in the backwoods? The shady deal has been all over the national news, social media, etc. You want to pussyfoot around other posters who spoke of Keelon's shadiness and all of a sudden grow a pair in your pathetic attempt to question me? Look it up, moron.

(04-10-2017 06:38 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:35 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

And away we go

I guess you weren't around when the Nichols saga broke

Did Memphis have to hire his dad to get him to sign?

We had to compensate him

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I think Shaq was in charge of compensating Austin.

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

(04-10-2017 06:26 PM)ndq1125 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:23 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Anyone who leaves UAB before ever playing a game because of a falling out with Gene Bartow is questionable in my opinion.

Really???? That's like saying if you stole a piece of gum as a child you are a serial criminal for life. There's a statute of limitations and I think going back to his college days may have exceeded that. Good try though

What you just used as an example about a statute of limitations is ok to defend your point/opinion on this side, but by the same token in the your post - number 7 - you deride Saul for a mistake earlier in his life and hold it against him. Now, I'm not a fan of his position on staff or why he is there, but I'm not going to use a past error in judgement to bolster my position on it.

I think I saw it mentioned in another thread, where Bluto restated someone else on the board in that "let those who have not driven when intoxicated cast the first stone."

(04-10-2017 08:29 PM)nutbushtiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:38 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:35 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

And away we go

I guess you weren't around when the Nichols saga broke

Did Memphis have to hire his dad to get him to sign?

We had to compensate him

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using CSNbbs mobile app

I think Shaq was in charge of compensating FOR Austin.

probably what you meant

(04-10-2017 06:18 PM)ddramone Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

Can you give me an example of a white dad pimpin' his kids? Seriously, I am hard pressed to get an example in Memphis or D1 basketball. Maybe in football? Seriously, I cannot think of an example off-hand of a white dad getting an DBO position so that his kid could be recruited. Maybe a white coach - that I can think of plenty of instances.

Press Maravich anyone?

(04-10-2017 06:18 PM)ddramone Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

Can you give me an example of a white dad pimpin' his kids? Seriously, I am hard pressed to get an example in Memphis or D1 basketball. Maybe in football? Seriously, I cannot think of an example off-hand of a white dad getting an DBO position so that his kid could be recruited. Maybe a white coach - that I can think of plenty of instances.

Not their kids, but Hugh Freeze and Gus Malzhan parlayed star players into major college coaching gigs.

(04-10-2017 06:40 PM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:35 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

And away we go

I guess you weren't around when the Nichols saga broke

Did Memphis have to hire his dad to get him to sign?

Nichols' dad had no coaching aspirations and they were enormous Tiger fans prior to the incident.

He was definitely motivated by Austin's NBA prospects though.

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

(04-10-2017 09:36 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

Bench players for blue bloods are better than the starters that Tubby is able to recruit.

(04-10-2017 09:36 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

Kansas strength & conditioning program will do wonders for the Lawsons along with the exposure and coaching. Dedric will be a 1st rounder after his jr year. No double teams there.

(04-10-2017 09:45 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:36 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

Kansas strength & conditioning program will do wonders for the Lawsons along with the exposure and coaching. Dedric will be a 1st rounder after his jr year. No double teams there.

An S&C coach can't make his heart bigger. Neither Dedric nor KJ are NBA level talent.

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

Gonna be a rude awakening for the resident know it alls

(04-10-2017 09:36 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

Quote:So perhaps most importantly, when asked directly if Dedric and K.J. Lawson would still be at Memphis if he’d been allowed to remain as an assistant coach instead of being moved to director of player personnel last year, Keelon Lawson’s answer was definitive.

“Yes,” he said. “Of course.”

http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

(04-10-2017 09:47 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:45 PM)Tigerbluesky Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:36 PM)PATiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 09:31 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(04-10-2017 08:30 PM)PATiger Wrote:  http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sp...100309128/

I'm so glad they showed him to the door. No coach should have to put up with this kind of extortion. His kids weren't that good.

So not good a blue blood is taking them in.

Even blue bloods need bench players.

Kansas strength & conditioning program will do wonders for the Lawsons along with the exposure and coaching. Dedric will be a 1st rounder after his jr year. No double teams there.

An S&C coach can't make his heart bigger. Neither Dedric nor KJ are NBA level talent.

Someone clearly doesn't know basketball. Dedric is a very skilled player who was often double and tripled teamed last year and still averaged a double/double. Superior S&C will help him tremendously and I doubt you know anything about the young man's heart. I've known the Lawsons for many yrs and I just sit back and marvel at the level of ignorance with some posters regarding them.

You guys hating the Lawson's because they "have no heart" are embarrassing.
It takes effort and heart to rebound. They were our leading rebounders and nobody was able to even get HALF of the rebounds KJ got every game.
It takes effort and heart to go get blocks. Dedric averaged over 2 per game.
It takes heart and effort to play 34 minutes per game.
Lets not forget that KJ was still in his first year of playing college basketball and he was getting 12 and 8.
Our beloved heart and effort guy, Antonio Anderson, was getting 7 and 3 his first year. CDR 8 and 3 his first year. Joey Dorsey 4 and 6. Kelly Wise 6 and 5. DJ Stephens 2 and 2. Rodney Carney 10 and 5. I could keep going....
Dedric was a sophomore (who graduated high school a year early) and had a historic season that has only been matched by some guy named Tim Duncan over the last 25 years.

Sorry for the facts. Sorry that they shared a laugh that one time when they were getting their brains beat in by a top 20 team in the country. Have some perspective, guys.

(04-10-2017 06:15 PM)macphil30 Wrote:  Why is it that when white people use family members it's a connection, or who you know? Same instance a black guy does it then he's pimpin his kids. These kind of deals didn't start with keelon, nor is gonna end. Im willing to bet the next coach, because there will be a next coach after tubby flames out will find a way to get those two younger Lawson's and keelon on campus. Tubby, and Rudd messed this up plain and simple.

How in the world did it take this long to bring up race in this post???? Geez. Let's get off the race baiting bandwagon and talk ball. Take this crap to some other forum.