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(02-14-2017 06:49 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.

So then sounds like you agree that Idaho should move its campus to Boise. That's where the people actually are. I am so glad that support for my idea of moving the campus to Boise is growing.
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RE: Idaho Asking State for Athletic Dept. Bailout
(02-14-2017 05:59 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:28 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  When you look up and realize you're arguing with some guy from Iowa on a sports message board about whether to move the University of Idaho 300 miles, that's when you know you need an intervention or something. I've gotta get out of here.

You should put the entire campus on wheels, so that every time the state's population distribution changes, you can move the campus to wherever the most people are.
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(Sadly, I bet some people will take that suggestion seriously.)

Hey, that's what my high school did. When they ran out of classroom space in the main building, the brought in mobile trailers for the extra classrooms. When the high school enrollment later went back down, they got rid of the trailers. If a high school can do it, why can't you put a whole University in a trailer park?
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Idaho St isn't really a rival for UI or BSU. They stayed FBS despite being the second biggest school and ranking second to Idaho in academics. Despite a ten million dollar athletic budget and higher subsidies they continue along. They haven't slipped below the junior college in academics. Maybe they should have stayed a branch of UI. Lewis and Clark could emerge into UI saving money. Keep baseball there and make it a varsity sport. Basketball should play some games in Boise and CDA when they get a civic center. Idaho has averaged over twenty thousand before. The combination of losing and conference instability is unique. Maybe NMSU has a similar recent past except their rivals aren't dicks. UNM or UTEP visit every year. BSU won't even play Idaho in basketball in Moscow.



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RE: Idaho Asking State for Athletic Dept. Bailout
(02-14-2017 06:49 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.

I am glad someone finally had the guts to say it. Idaho is in the position it is because of a lackluster alumni base. They don't and won't support Idaho in athletics. They got a life boat and a rescue by finally joining the WAC back when it was a big deal. Since then, nothing. No facility improvements, no alumni engagement, just status quo at best. Meanwhile schools like Utah State, Wyoming and yes Boise made investments. SJSU, Idaho and to a lesser extent have circled the drain. SJSU has been save strictly by location and NMSU is a **** hair away from joining Idaho.
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RE: Idaho Asking State for Athletic Dept. Bailout
(02-14-2017 07:42 PM)Shox Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 06:49 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.

I am glad someone finally had the guts to say it. Idaho is in the position it is because of a lackluster alumni base. They don't and won't support Idaho in athletics. They got a life boat and a rescue by finally joining the WAC back when it was a big deal. Since then, nothing. No facility improvements, no alumni engagement, just status quo at best. Meanwhile schools like Utah State, Wyoming and yes Boise made investments. SJSU, Idaho and to a lesser extent have circled the drain. SJSU has been save strictly by location and NMSU is a **** hair away from joining Idaho.

All true. Although very little effort has ever been made to actually get the Idaho alumni base to do more than the bare minimum to support athletics. A revolving door of Presidents over the past 2 decades have really never had much interest in moving anything forward, as partially evidenced by the fact that our current AD was an accountant in the Ag Department hired on an interim basis in 2003. He's presided over the worst stretch in Idaho athletic history and is somehow still here.
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I should also say that the alumni base has been extremely generous over the years on all sorts of projects unrelated to athletics, and up until now even on those athletic facilities improvements where requests have been made -- practice facilities, weight rooms, training & rehab facilities, etc. We'll never know how the alumni would have reacted on the facilities improvements that would have mattered -- capacity expansion, new stadium, what have you -- because nobody ever asked.
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(02-14-2017 02:52 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 02:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 02:11 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 01:44 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 11:43 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  I really doubt there's a big plaque hanging in the U of ID president's office that says "Official Flagship University of the state of Idaho". And even if there was one, what does it matter?? Idaho gets less money from the state than Boise does, already.


Boise is a junior college, when it comes to research and academics, compared to Idaho and Washington State.

Thank you for tackling this for me. Buncha goofballs on message boards keep thinking you can just hang a "flagship" sign in front of the BSU campus and problem solved. The truth is, we are light years ahead of them academically and it would take a ridiculous investment for them to catch up. Idaho isn't really in the business of making ridiculous investments in education.

Why would it be ridiculous to invest in the state university that is in the part of the state where people actually live? Thw Boise area has grown to 600k+ people. Moscow has 25k. Nobody wants to move or travel to Moscow. Its a remote part of the state and Washington St University already has the area covered anyway Whats the point of having the #1 school in Idaho there? history? Stupid pride? Its not worth it. Time to do the state a favor and demote the school just like they demoted the football team.

So Illinois should move to Chicago.
Alabama to Birmingham.
Get Kansas out of Lawrence. Too Small
Penn State in State College? Sad.
Clemson? Move the college to Charleston.

And let's merge Iowa State and Iowa, move them to Des Moines.

Sound. I don't know why we ever bothered to try to educate those rubes out in the sticks. Their free ride ends now.


how dare those colleges want an agriculture focus and to be in the heart of ag country. bastids should know we dont need degrees in that farm or large animal vet stuff. I get my food at albertsons anyway. City life for all


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RE: Idaho Asking State for Athletic Dept. Bailout
(02-14-2017 07:07 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 06:49 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.

So then sounds like you agree that Idaho should move its campus to Boise. That's where the people actually are. I am so glad that support for my idea of moving the campus to Boise is growing.

Actually Idaho has branch campuses all over Idaho including Boise. The Idaho fan can explain Idaho-Boise branch campus better than me. Before Boise St was a 4 year college, Idaho would play games in other locations, and in Boise. They stopped playing games in Boise in the 70's ot 80's. Anyone else care to jump in on this?
Cheers!
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(02-14-2017 08:31 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 07:07 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 06:49 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  Sounds like the remaining Idaho fans need a reality check. Big Sky and FCS is the best possible home for its football team. its time they get their athletic program and budget in line with that reality.

The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools. The % of state population is gradually shifting more and more to the Boise area. Maybe its time to make Boise St a 2nd flagship. This may upset Idaho Alumni, but hey if there was more Idaho alumni that cared, they would have a 60k football stadium already.

I think you vastly underestimate the distances out west. It is almost a 6 hour drive from Boise to Moscow. That's the same as the distance from Sioux Falls to Iowa City. Heck, that's almost the same as the distance from Cincinnati to Iowa City.

How many Iowa fans in Sioux Falls come to multiple football games? That's not the type of trip you make multiple times in one fall.

It's unfortunate, but the population is too spread out in Idaho to support more than one FBS team.

So then sounds like you agree that Idaho should move its campus to Boise. That's where the people actually are. I am so glad that support for my idea of moving the campus to Boise is growing.

Actually Idaho has branch campuses all over Idaho including Boise. The Idaho fan can explain Idaho-Boise branch campus better than me. Before Boise St was a 4 year college, Idaho would play games in other locations, and in Boise. They stopped playing games in Boise in the 70's ot 80's. Anyone else care to jump in on this?
Cheers!

Yep there is a branch campus in Boise including a 3 year law school, along with branch campuses all over the state. Back before BSU was a 4 year college, Idaho would normally play 1 game in Boise, usually against Utah if I remember correctly.

Anyone who thinks you can just pack up a large University with hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the campus, programs, and infrastructure and move it 300 miles is a bit delusional lol.
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(02-14-2017 02:32 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 02:11 PM)goofus Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 01:44 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 11:43 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 AM)goofus Wrote:  The state of Idaho should start thinking about tweaking the flagship status of its schools.

I really doubt there's a big plaque hanging in the U of ID president's office that says "Official Flagship University of the state of Idaho". And even if there was one, what does it matter?? Idaho gets less money from the state than Boise does, already.


Boise is a junior college, when it comes to research and academics, compared to Idaho and Washington State.

Thank you for tackling this for me. Buncha goofballs on message boards keep thinking you can just hang a "flagship" sign in front of the BSU campus and problem solved. The truth is, we are light years ahead of them academically and it would take a ridiculous investment for them to catch up. Idaho isn't really in the business of making ridiculous investments in education.

Why would it be ridiculous to invest in the state university that is in the part of the state where people actually live? Thw Boise area has grown to 600k+ people. Moscow has 25k. Nobody wants to move or travel to Moscow. Its a remote part of the state and Washington St University already has the area covered anyway Whats the point of having the #1 school in Idaho there? history? Stupid pride? Its not worth it. Time to do the state a favor and demote the school just like they demoted the football team.

So Illinois should move to Chicago.
Alabama to Birmingham.
Get Kansas out of Lawrence. Too Small
Penn State in State College? Sad.
Clemson? Move the college to Charleston.

And let's merge Iowa State and Iowa, move them to Des Moines.

And I guess UGa got to leave Athens and go to...gag...Atlanta. Auburn' got to move to either B'ham or Atlanta.
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